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What do you guys think of this first piece 'Viking' from Tempest Watches  Rating:  Rating
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Every watches are differents and for different tastes. The ceramic bezel is showing up more and more on the market and will certainly replace totally most of bezel inserts very soon.
As the hardened mineral glass replaced the plexi and the sapphire crystal replaced the mineral on most productions...
People want it, watch-makers are coming with it.
There's also a high demand for high water-resistance cases lately and it shows also on the market.
All in all to say that the Viking model may have combined features that other micro-brands don't offer right now(I didn't check that...) but it's guaranteed to come very soon at not so high price.
Or how the huge Hong-Kong factories would survive in front of mondial technology advance and rushing market demand?
Now there's a bunch of ceramic bezels cheapos on the market but I didn't considerate them because of them lower water-resistance rate...
That said, I'm proud to break out my 3000th post!
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TempestBen wrote: oagaspar wrote:
TY Ben
...I am sure you are aware you are not the only one producing a watch with lumed ceramic bezels,high WR cases,or killer designs,and that most knowledgeable WIS know these components are readily available and offered by the manufacturers that are being used by the micro brands.
...so my question is,what is your experience with watches,and what sets Tempest apart from all the other micro brands?



Oscar, yes your right that I'm not the only one producing a watch with lumed ceramic bezel, high WR case, or killer designs but can you name another watch that is doing all three together?
OK Ben, I'll play,just off the top of my head...Benarus did the 3 in the Remora last year(ceramic lume dial and bezel)...OWC 5517 Milsub...even Deep Blue did a ceramic lume bezel,WR and many considered all of these killer designs,since they all sold out...the list goes on...even rouhlena and helenarhou on the Bay are offering their replica cased designs with ceramic lumed bezels,at a fraction of your price...Benarus and Helson are also offering sapphire lumed bezels so once again you are not doing anything new,that we have not seen.
,...now please answer my question>What is your experience with watches?

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 Posted: Sun Jul 10th, 2011 11:51 am
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Hammerfjord wrote: Every watches are differents and for different tastes. The ceramic bezel is showing up more and more on the market and will certainly replace totally most of bezel inserts very soon.
As the hardened mineral glass replaced the plexi and the sapphire crystal replaced the mineral on most productions...
People want it, watch-makers are coming with it.
There's also a high demand for high water-resistance cases lately and it shows also on the market.
All in all to say that the Viking model may have combined features that other micro-brands don't offer right now(I didn't check that...) but it's guaranteed to come very soon at not so high price.
Or how the huge Hong-Kong factories would survive in front of mondial technology advance and rushing market demand?
Now there's a bunch of ceramic bezels cheapos on the market but I didn't considerate them because of them lower water-resistance rate...
That said, I'm proud to break out my 3000th post!
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well said Will,and Congrats on 3000 posts!
...didn't the Swiss Made,Edox Class1 have a full ceramic bezel that was lumed?...it is also a killer design imo...
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oagaspar wrote:
Hammerfjord wrote: Every watches are differents and for different tastes. The ceramic bezel is showing up more and more on the market and will certainly replace totally most of bezel inserts very soon.
As the hardened mineral glass replaced the plexi and the sapphire crystal replaced the mineral on most productions...
People want it, watch-makers are coming with it.
There's also a high demand for high water-resistance cases lately and it shows also on the market.
All in all to say that the Viking model may have combined features that other micro-brands don't offer right now(I didn't check that...) but it's guaranteed to come very soon at not so high price.
Or how the huge Hong-Kong factories would survive in front of mondial technology advance and rushing market demand?
Now there's a bunch of ceramic bezels cheapos on the market but I didn't considerate them because of them lower water-resistance rate...
That said, I'm proud to break out my 3000th post!
dog smile.gif
well said Will,and Congrats on 3000 posts!
...didn't the Swiss Made,Edox Class1 have a full ceramic bezel that was lumed?...it is also a killer design imo...
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Sh't up Oscar, I'm so f*ck'n green that I ordered it for my friend and not MYSELF!!! Yes, the bezel is ceramic: FULL ceramic...Not only the insert side but actually a full bock of ceramic with lume on the top.
I can't believe that it was the last one for 1000 buks, now each time I open my safe and see it, I cry!no.gif
He better get married very fast before I decide to keep it for my own facesubtlelaugh.gif

And thanks! Been a pleasure to be there those last years and I'm definitly keeping aroundThumbsUp02.gif

And by the way, just to prove that I don't BS around: http://cgi.ebay.com/Edox-Class-1-Date-Automatic-Self-Winding-45mm-Watch-NEW-/110704640912?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item19c682c390#ht_4950wt_1206

Thanks to Oscar who grabed it for me: You are the man!thumbsup.gif

Last edited on Sun Jul 10th, 2011 12:09 pm by Hammerfjord

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Hammerfjord wrote: oagaspar wrote:
Hammerfjord wrote: Every watches are differents and for different tastes. The ceramic bezel is showing up more and more on the market and will certainly replace totally most of bezel inserts very soon.
As the hardened mineral glass replaced the plexi and the sapphire crystal replaced the mineral on most productions...
People want it, watch-makers are coming with it.
There's also a high demand for high water-resistance cases lately and it shows also on the market.
All in all to say that the Viking model may have combined features that other micro-brands don't offer right now(I didn't check that...) but it's guaranteed to come very soon at not so high price.
Or how the huge Hong-Kong factories would survive in front of mondial technology advance and rushing market demand?
Now there's a bunch of ceramic bezels cheapos on the market but I didn't considerate them because of them lower water-resistance rate...
That said, I'm proud to break out my 3000th post!
dog smile.gif
well said Will,and Congrats on 3000 posts!
...didn't the Swiss Made,Edox Class1 have a full ceramic bezel that was lumed?...it is also a killer design imo...
ThumbsUp02.gif

Sh't up Oscar, I'm so f*ck'n green that I ordered it for my friend and not MYSELF!!! Yes, the bezel is ceramic: FULL ceramic...Not only the insert side but actually a full bock of ceramic with lume on the top.
I can't believe that it was the last one for 1000 buks, now each time I open my safe and see it, I cry!no.gif
He better get married very fast before I decide to keep it for my own facesubtlelaugh.gif

And thanks! Been a pleasure to be there those last years and I'm definitly keeping aroundThumbsUp02.gif

And by the way, just to prove that I don't BS around: http://cgi.ebay.com/Edox-Class-1-Date-Automatic-Self-Winding-45mm-Watch-NEW-/110704640912?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item19c682c390#ht_4950wt_1206

Thanks to Oscar who grabed it for me: You are the man!thumbsup.gif
TY Will,but you don't know how much I wanted to keep it too Buddy!...you know the USPS is not that good at making shipments overseas,anything can happen!dog smile.gif

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oagaspar wrote:
Hammerfjord wrote: oagaspar wrote:
Hammerfjord wrote: Every watches are differents and for different tastes. The ceramic bezel is showing up more and more on the market and will certainly replace totally most of bezel inserts very soon.
As the hardened mineral glass replaced the plexi and the sapphire crystal replaced the mineral on most productions...
People want it, watch-makers are coming with it.
There's also a high demand for high water-resistance cases lately and it shows also on the market.
All in all to say that the Viking model may have combined features that other micro-brands don't offer right now(I didn't check that...) but it's guaranteed to come very soon at not so high price.
Or how the huge Hong-Kong factories would survive in front of mondial technology advance and rushing market demand?
Now there's a bunch of ceramic bezels cheapos on the market but I didn't considerate them because of them lower water-resistance rate...
That said, I'm proud to break out my 3000th post!
dog smile.gif
well said Will,and Congrats on 3000 posts!
...didn't the Swiss Made,Edox Class1 have a full ceramic bezel that was lumed?...it is also a killer design imo...
ThumbsUp02.gif

Sh't up Oscar, I'm so f*ck'n green that I ordered it for my friend and not MYSELF!!! Yes, the bezel is ceramic: FULL ceramic...Not only the insert side but actually a full bock of ceramic with lume on the top.
I can't believe that it was the last one for 1000 buks, now each time I open my safe and see it, I cry!no.gif
He better get married very fast before I decide to keep it for my own facesubtlelaugh.gif

And thanks! Been a pleasure to be there those last years and I'm definitly keeping aroundThumbsUp02.gif

And by the way, just to prove that I don't BS around: http://cgi.ebay.com/Edox-Class-1-Date-Automatic-Self-Winding-45mm-Watch-NEW-/110704640912?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item19c682c390#ht_4950wt_1206

Thanks to Oscar who grabed it for me: You are the man!thumbsup.gif
TY Will,but you don't know how much I wanted to keep it too Buddy!...you know the USPS is not that good at making shipments overseas,anything can happen!dog smile.gif
Seems like I've been twice lucky and not even profiting from it once! You like to rub this Edox in my face huh? dog smile.gif

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TY Will,but you don't know how much I wanted to keep it too Buddy!...you know the USPS is not that good at making shipments overseas,anything can happen!dog smile.gif
Seems like I've been twice lucky and not even profiting from it once! You like to rub this Edox in my face huh? dog smile.gif
no rubbing here Will....your friend will be doing the rubbing when he gets the Edox as a wedding gift from his wife!dog smile.gif

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oagaspar wrote:
TY Will,but you don't know how much I wanted to keep it too Buddy!...you know the USPS is not that good at making shipments overseas,anything can happen!dog smile.gif
Seems like I've been twice lucky and not even profiting from it once! You like to rub this Edox in my face huh? dog smile.gif
no rubbing here Will....your friend will be doing the rubbing when he gets the Edox as a wedding gift from his wife!dog smile.gif

Hehe,I know he will! I rubbed enough my Alpina Regulator Manufacture in his own!
But I don't care: Soon I will rub his so hard that it will look like a moon face
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oagaspar wrote:
TempestBen wrote: oagaspar wrote:
TY Ben
...I am sure you are aware you are not the only one producing a watch with lumed ceramic bezels,high WR cases,or killer designs,and that most knowledgeable WIS know these components are readily available and offered by the manufacturers that are being used by the micro brands.
...so my question is,what is your experience with watches,and what sets Tempest apart from all the other micro brands?



Oscar, yes your right that I'm not the only one producing a watch with lumed ceramic bezel, high WR case, or killer designs but can you name another watch that is doing all three together?
OK Ben, I'll play,just off the top of my head...Benarus did the 3 in the Remora last year(ceramic lume dial and bezel)...OWC 5517 Milsub...even Deep Blue did a ceramic lume bezel,WR and many considered all of these killer designs,since they all sold out...the list goes on...even rouhlena and helenarhou on the Bay are offering their replica cased designs with ceramic lumed bezels,at a fraction of your price...Benarus and Helson are also offering sapphire lumed bezels so once again you are not doing anything new,that we have not seen.
,...now please answer my question>What is your experience with watches?



Oscar, Deep Blue does have a ceramic bezel but its not lumed. The other, really depends what you consider high WR cases...The ones you mentioned have have a maximum of 500M WR. Anyways this point is not important.

To answer your question about my experience with watches I have been an avid collector for many years. With my partners years of combined experince in collecting, design and watchmaking.

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TempestBen wrote: Oscar, I hope you don’t mind me dropping.

Most people are quick to judge a watch by the price, most people will underestimate the time and effort that goes into such a creation and the sum of the parts (Top-Grade movement, ceramic lumed bezel, 2000WR and of course all that sexy machine work). I believe that our pricing is fair, we are not the cheapest nor we are not the most expensive. I refuse to cut corners and come out with a diver which is more affordable but not there quality wise. Our aim is not to make a quick buck but to bring killer designs that people will enjoy and something we can be proud of.

Yes we did have some issues with “made in swiss” and our website not launching when we said it would. You have to understand there are so many individual details that require your attention that it’s easy to overlook something. I’ve never heard of a business starting out that never had any issues. We do our best to resolve these issues and learn and make sure they never happen again.

With all that said, I’m very proud to say that everyone that’s had to fortunate experience to see the watch in person has all been pleasantly surprised by the quality. Oceanic times and DEMO both are very well regarded and respected in the forums and will be coming up with their own reviews with are totally unbiased.

Ben

Best of luck in your endeavor Ben. I just have to chime in and make the point many see DEMO for what he is... a shill. Hopefully he won't sell off your watch in a few weeks and set the secondary market value too low.

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TempestBen wrote: oagaspar wrote:
TempestBen wrote: oagaspar wrote:
TY Ben
...I am sure you are aware you are not the only one producing a watch with lumed ceramic bezels,high WR cases,or killer designs,and that most knowledgeable WIS know these components are readily available and offered by the manufacturers that are being used by the micro brands.
...so my question is,what is your experience with watches,and what sets Tempest apart from all the other micro brands?



Oscar, yes your right that I'm not the only one producing a watch with lumed ceramic bezel, high WR case, or killer designs but can you name another watch that is doing all three together?
OK Ben, I'll play,just off the top of my head...Benarus did the 3 in the Remora last year(ceramic lume dial and bezel)...OWC 5517 Milsub...even Deep Blue did a ceramic lume bezel,WR and many considered all of these killer designs,since they all sold out...the list goes on...even rouhlena and helenarhou on the Bay are offering their replica cased designs with ceramic lumed bezels,at a fraction of your price...Benarus and Helson are also offering sapphire lumed bezels so once again you are not doing anything new,that we have not seen.
,...now please answer my question>What is your experience with watches?



Oscar, Deep Blue does have a ceramic bezel but its not lumed. The other, really depends what you consider high WR cases...The ones you mentioned have have a maximum of 500M WR. Anyways this point is not important.

To answer your question about my experience with watches I have been an avid collector for many years. With my partners years of combined experince in collecting, design and watchmaking.
you're right Ben,it's not important,but it seemed to be important to you...maybe you can share some pics of your collection,and what watches your partners or you have produced in the past...these would be good things to know,and can only be a positive towards your success with Tempest Watch imo.
...especially in a market that is being flooded by micro brands, all looking to the forums, in order to sell their wares...in todays market it is as important to review the owner/owners of a micro as it is the watch,and that is only if the reviewer is truly unbiased and is not motivated by a free watch.
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Paxman wrote:
TempestBen wrote: Oscar, I hope you don’t mind me dropping.

Most people are quick to judge a watch by the price, most people will underestimate the time and effort that goes into such a creation and the sum of the parts (Top-Grade movement, ceramic lumed bezel, 2000WR and of course all that sexy machine work). I believe that our pricing is fair, we are not the cheapest nor we are not the most expensive. I refuse to cut corners and come out with a diver which is more affordable but not there quality wise. Our aim is not to make a quick buck but to bring killer designs that people will enjoy and something we can be proud of.

Yes we did have some issues with “made in swiss” and our website not launching when we said it would. You have to understand there are so many individual details that require your attention that it’s easy to overlook something. I’ve never heard of a business starting out that never had any issues. We do our best to resolve these issues and learn and make sure they never happen again.

With all that said, I’m very proud to say that everyone that’s had to fortunate experience to see the watch in person has all been pleasantly surprised by the quality. Oceanic times and DEMO both are very well regarded and respected in the forums and will be coming up with their own reviews with are totally unbiased.

Ben

Best of luck in your endeavor Ben. I just have to chime in and make the point many see DEMO for what he is... a shill. Hopefully he won't sell off your watch in a few weeks and set the secondary market value too low.


Paxman, have you seen DEMO's collection? Its quite something, I drool everytime I see the photos. I would not be too worried about DEMO selling my watch.

Just because DEMO takes awesome pictures and writes his opinions about a watch, its really not fair to call him a shill. Let me ask you this do you not agree with any of the comments he's made for any of his reviews? His reviews are from his point of view and not biased at all. DEMO is a good guy.

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