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 Posted: Sat Jul 20th, 2013 08:29 am
   
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CuSn8 alloy only comes from Germany and from what I know they constantly refused to sell any CuSn8 bronze stock to Asia in the past.
So cases made in Asia are not CuSn8: They are made from an alloy who might be close to it but not IT.
That's apparently the high content of copper and difficulty to obtain this right alloy in foundry which makes it more expensive than others: Or else, every foundry in the world could easily make it, including the Chinese.
At this price point, it smells like brass or cheap Chinese bronze to me.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 20th, 2013 09:11 am
   
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^Lumtec are also claiming to be using CuSn8 for their upcoming bronze models though I was under the impression they ended up get the material locally in the USA, don't know if it were sourced in the States or they only found stock of it there.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 20th, 2013 04:06 pm
   
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I could not tell if there's some CuSn8 made in the US: It might well be...
I would rather be sure that all LumT cases are made in Asia.
There's nothing wrong with the fact that cases and parts are made in Asia if the price is reflecting it.

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They've just posted the latest prototypes nearing completion just requiring their brush finish on the cases. It does look promising.



Like the fact they have a sapphire bezel that's lumed too.

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sapphire bezel or ceramic?...also,these are inexpensive stamped cases.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 26th, 2013 03:04 am
   
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oagaspar wrote:
sapphire bezel or ceramic?...also,these are inexpensive stamped cases.


We have been told they are sapphire so I've no reason to doubt him on this, as for the case I have own lots of watches and in all honesty I couldn't tell you which were cast and which were pressed, all I'm really into is the design and if I like it then I buy simple as that.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 26th, 2013 09:56 am
   
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Luminated wrote: oagaspar wrote:
sapphire bezel or ceramic?...also,these are inexpensive stamped cases.


We have been told they are sapphire so I've no reason to doubt him on this, as for the case I have own lots of watches and in all honesty I couldn't tell you which were cast and which were pressed, all I'm really into is the design and if I like it then I buy simple as that.
I am not sure what kind of watches you have owned,nor whether they were inexpensive or high end,but the purpose of a forum is to educate,or at least that is what is was years ago when most of us here came on board...today newbs don't seem to care about history,or manufacture type,materials or quality and only about looks...too bad because that is why these fly by night wannabe watchmakers came to exist who know very little about watches and only look to make a quick buck.Buy what you like but beware the warning here.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 26th, 2013 10:05 am
   
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oagaspar wrote: Luminated wrote: oagaspar wrote:
sapphire bezel or ceramic?...also,these are inexpensive stamped cases.


We have been told they are sapphire so I've no reason to doubt him on this, as for the case I have own lots of watches and in all honesty I couldn't tell you which were cast and which were pressed, all I'm really into is the design and if I like it then I buy simple as that.
I am not sure what kind of watches you have owned,nor whether they were inexpensive or high end,but the purpose of a forum is to educate,or at least that is what is was years ago when most of us here came on board...today newbs don't seem to care about history,or manufacture type,materials or quality and only about looks...too bad because that is why these fly by night wannabe watchmakers came to exist who know very little about watches and only look to make a quick buck.Buy what you like but beware the warning here.

I understand where you are coming from but there are a lot of recent brands which all began somewhere and probably faced similar opinions as this brand here. As for my watches, I've everything from a £50 Fossil to a £5K Rolex so I do know quality when I see it which is why we have such a wide variation in prices of watches. IMO price reflects quality for the most part and as long as you keep this in mind your expectations won't be dented.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 26th, 2013 10:44 am
   
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this watch if completed will hit the sales forums the same day for a discount,wise WIS will wait and not jump on the pre-order,wiser WIS aren't even interested....btw there are more failed companies like this than those who have succeeded....buy the seller is what is preached and yet not one question to this owner about who he is,nor what his watch experience is.mini me.gif

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 Posted: Fri Jul 26th, 2013 01:01 pm
   
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oagaspar wrote:
this watch if completed will hit the sales forums the same day for a discount,wise WIS will wait and not jump on the pre-order,wiser WIS aren't even interested....btw there are more failed companies like this than those who have succeeded....buy the seller is what is preached and yet not one question to this owner about who he is,nor what his watch experience is.mini me.gif



Very true that most fail but my point was every one of them that made it had to start some where and I wish him all the best because with every new name that makes it the greater the choice for the consumer.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 26th, 2013 03:54 pm
   
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I don't think anybody wishes bad luck to any new-born watch company here...
But those cheap watches are popping up like mushrooms lately and often from people who know little about watches: Designers, opportunists seeing that it sells on forums etc...
I'm like any others: I wait and see.
Half of them or more have no future and we all know that.
But mostly, I'm personally not interested by those Asian "cheapos".

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 Posted: Fri Jul 26th, 2013 04:16 pm
   
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^I would have thought the almost all small watch brands use Asia as their workshop and its how they can offer really good well specced watches at a fraction of the price those better known Swiss brand look.

I'm not sure if Benarus are made in Asia but I believe Armida are and I reckon their products as good value for what you get.

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