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 Posted: Fri Apr 6th, 2007 05:45 pm
   
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This is my first post on the 3T Forum.  I have been participating @ WUS and other forums for a while and signed up here not only to join what I heard was a great Forum but also to learn more about the saga that's happened on the WUS DOXA forum.

Boy have I learned something! I was just observing with no judgements being made, I just wanted to read the uncensored facts (if they do exist).

But the most recent postings have prompted me to make two statements:

1) THANK YOU to O.A. Gaspar & KenC @ 3T (also to Eddie @ TX-UK, Mitch @ Ocean7 Fora/WUS and the moderators @ the Dive Fora/WUS) for providing the means and opportunity for watch enthusiasts to hang out, learn from each other and share experiences, all without the fear of censorship or heavy handed moderation.  Hopefully mutual respect and common courtesy will continue to be the true regulators of our own postings.  Sometimes this is not the case and those that do not exhibit these reasonable expectations deserve to get the flamed responses they have provoked.

2) THANK YOU to any and all current or retired Military, Law Enforcement, or Emergency Personnel for making sacrifices and putting your life at risk on a daily basis so that others around the world and in your local communities will be better off.  My Grandfather served in WW2 with the Canadian Forces as a cook.  Whether a highly decorated war hero or a cook, EVERY contribution to the military should be celebrated and appreciated.  Wars are not won by one man or woman.  Insulting or questioning someone's Military service is truly sad & pathetic.  I completely understand KenC's reaction to JV's posting, JV's comments were completely uncalled for & just plain wrong.

I am now wondering... if this forum gave J. Vargas the means to fully explain the situation and back-up all the claims he has made (not that I have seen them all but I am sure they are scattered around the internet somewhere) why has he not made a clear, concise and complete statement of ALL the facts so that others could read them and come to their own conclusions?  Just lay them all out there, together in one posting.

Frankly if JVargas does possess a JD degree then I would never want this guy for my lawyer!  This is no way to present the evidence if you plan on winning over a jury.  His methods would just land him in jail for contempt of court.  Maybe this is why he was working in customer service for $12.00/ hour and not making $1000/ hour as a lawyer.  But then who am I to judge.

Just my CAD$0.02 worth.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 6th, 2007 05:54 pm
   
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I doubt John will ever work in the watch industry again because he can't be trusted...bottom line you don't bite the hand that feeds you:D as for him showing up here again I have my doubts as most trolls hit and run...that's their style...I will however thank John for creating a stir here..raising the post and view count and bringing Dr.Peter Millar and many other new members to 3T.....see something good came of all this discussion:) Maybe John can rep for this company now:D

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 Posted: Fri Apr 6th, 2007 05:57 pm
   
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finzup wrote:
Welcome to 3T finzup!!!hand6.gif Very well said and glad to have you onboard Buddy!cool10.gif This is my first post on the 3T Forum.  I have been participating @ WUS and other forums for a while and signed up here not only to join what I heard was a great Forum but also to learn more about the saga that's happened on the WUS DOXA forum.

Boy have I learned something! I was just observing with no judgements being made, I just wanted to read the uncensored facts (if they do exist).

But the most recent postings have prompted me to make two statements:

1) THANK YOU to O.A. Gaspar & KenC @ 3T (also to Eddie @ TX-UK, Mitch @ Ocean7 Fora/WUS and the moderators @ the Dive Fora/WUS) for providing the means and opportunity for watch enthusiasts to hang out, learn from each other and share experiences, all without the fear of censorship or heavy handed moderation.  Hopefully mutual respect and common courtesy will continue to be the true regulators of our own postings.  Sometimes this is not the case and those that do not exhibit these reasonable expectations deserve to get the flamed responses they have provoked.

2) THANK YOU to any and all current or retired Military, Law Enforcement, or Emergency Personnel for making sacrifices and putting your life at risk on a daily basis so that others around the world and in your local communities will be better off.  My Grandfather served in WW2 with the Canadian Forces as a cook.  Whether a highly decorated war hero or a cook, EVERY contribution to the military should be celebrated and appreciated.  Wars are not won by one man or woman.  Insulting or questioning someone's Military service is truly sad & pathetic.  I completely understand KenC's reaction to JV's posting, JV's comments were completely uncalled for & just plain wrong.

I am now wondering... if this forum gave J. Vargas the means to fully explain the situation and back-up all the claims he has made (not that I have seen them all but I am sure they are scattered around the internet somewhere) why has he not made a clear, concise and complete statement of ALL the facts so that others could read them and come to their own conclusions?  Just lay them all out there, together in one posting.

Frankly if JVargas does possess a JD degree then I would never want this guy for my lawyer!  This is no way to present the evidence if you plan on winning over a jury.  His methods would just land him in jail for contempt of court.  Maybe this is why he was working in customer service for $12.00/ hour and not making $1000/ hour as a lawyer.  But then who am I to judge.

Just my CAD$0.02 worth.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 6th, 2007 07:06 pm
   
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finzup wrote: This is my first post on the 3T Forum.  I have been participating @ WUS and other forums for a while and signed up here not only to join what I heard was a great Forum but also to learn more about the saga that's happened on the WUS DOXA forum.

Boy have I learned something! I was just observing with no judgements being made, I just wanted to read the uncensored facts (if they do exist).

But the most recent postings have prompted me to make two statements:

1) THANK YOU to O.A. Gaspar & KenC @ 3T (also to Eddie @ TX-UK, Mitch @ Ocean7 Fora/WUS and the moderators @ the Dive Fora/WUS) for providing the means and opportunity for watch enthusiasts to hang out, learn from each other and share experiences, all without the fear of censorship or heavy handed moderation.  Hopefully mutual respect and common courtesy will continue to be the true regulators of our own postings.  Sometimes this is not the case and those that do not exhibit these reasonable expectations deserve to get the flamed responses they have provoked.

2) THANK YOU to any and all current or retired Military, Law Enforcement, or Emergency Personnel for making sacrifices and putting your life at risk on a daily basis so that others around the world and in your local communities will be better off.  My Grandfather served in WW2 with the Canadian Forces as a cook.  Whether a highly decorated war hero or a cook, EVERY contribution to the military should be celebrated and appreciated.  Wars are not won by one man or woman.  Insulting or questioning someone's Military service is truly sad & pathetic.  I completely understand KenC's reaction to JV's posting, JV's comments were completely uncalled for & just plain wrong.

I am now wondering... if this forum gave J. Vargas the means to fully explain the situation and back-up all the claims he has made (not that I have seen them all but I am sure they are scattered around the internet somewhere) why has he not made a clear, concise and complete statement of ALL the facts so that others could read them and come to their own conclusions?  Just lay them all out there, together in one posting.

Frankly if JVargas does possess a JD degree then I would never want this guy for my lawyer!  This is no way to present the evidence if you plan on winning over a jury.  His methods would just land him in jail for contempt of court.  Maybe this is why he was working in customer service for $12.00/ hour and not making $1000/ hour as a lawyer.  But then who am I to judge.

Just my CAD$0.02 worth.


 

Finzup........welcome to 3T.  I can assure you that JohnV had every bit of board space he wanted.  He was not censored, hewas no edited and he was not banned. Hell, he still isn't banned.

In fact, the beginning of the thread gives him some support...and then he showed up, took peoples comments out of context and personally attacked them for it.  That is when the board started showing him up for what he apparently is...a fraud.

Thank you for your kind words about the military, and you are right on the money......a General of a PFC, they all make their own very important contributions......come to think of it, I never saw a General in a foxhole with an M-16!!!!

We hope you find this a pleasent place to hang out also!


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 Posted: Fri Apr 6th, 2007 07:09 pm
   
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Something just occured to me.  Why hasn't John V.  posted his proof?  He started a firestorm that doesn't seem to be going out soon and also seems to be fanning the flames.  Th DD214 thing is about as chickens**t as I have seen in a long time. My saying is , "Been there done that got the medical records to prove it".  I have read Ken C's posts on various forums for quite awhile now and have the upmost respect for him.  Instead of questioning DOXA I am now starting to question John V and his motivation behind this.  Whatever benefit of the doubt I may have given John V is now gone.  It might be time to throw the BS flag,  John V now seems to be just another disgruntled employee who has been shown the door.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 6th, 2007 07:11 pm
   
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KenC wrote:

 


In fact, the beginning of the thread gives him some support...and then he showed up, took peoples comments out of context and personally attacked them for it.  That is when the board started showing him up for what he apparently is...a fraud.




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 Posted: Fri Apr 6th, 2007 07:12 pm
   
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Watchdawg wrote: Something just occured to me.  Why hasn't John V.  posted his proof?  He started a firestorm that doesn't seem to be going out soon and also seems to be fanning the flames.  Th DD214 thing is about as chickens**t as I have seen in a long time. My saying is , "Been there done that got the medical records to prove it".  I have read Ken C's posts on various forums for quite awhile now and have the upmost respect for him.  Instead of questioning DOXA I am now starting to question John V and his motivation behind this.  Whatever benefit of the doubt I may have given John V is now gone.  It might be time to throw the BS flag,  John V now seems to be just another disgruntled employee who has been shown the door.
Watchdawg...............thank you for the kind words, but mostly, welcome to 3T!

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 Posted: Fri Apr 6th, 2007 09:19 pm
   
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I truly don't know how to take the Doxa stuff. I read as much as I could at WUS during some of the hubbub. Seems to me that alot of people made good points (Ernies forum, Doxa paid forum, no freedom of speech expected). I don't know any of the Doxa characters involved, frankly don't care. Not a big fan of the style myself, compared style vs. price and always saw something else I liked more.

As far as what has gone on here, I've been taken a bit aback. After the first post or so here by JV, I thought some actual facts might come to light. Then, it hit the fan. The attack on Ken was absolutely ridiculous. The fact that he brought up his (JV's) own military record as some sort of proof of....something suprised me. But then to attack someone else's was beyond any excuse.

Ken, I probably haven't said it before, but I think you know that I have nothing but the utmost admiration for you, and anyone else who served our country in uniform. The service you fulfilled in Vietnam was probably amongst the most difficult any of the men or women in uniform going back in time have ever had to serve. For that you have my gratitude and respect. If JV has served as he indicated, I respect him for that. But for that only. To attack someone else's record cannot be excused.

Well. That all being said, this is the internet. I can't get too emotionally charged about something that doesn't really effect me in any way, shape, or form. I don't own a Doxa, more than likely never will. Not because of what I've read, but because I don't like the style personally. I really think this isn't over, one way or the other, and I look forward to reading the next installation.

Take care all, and for those who weren't personally attacked, and have no financial stake in this at all, I wish you well. For those who do have a personal or financial stake, I hope this hasn't hurt you too much.

I now conclude the longest post I've typed out in probably 2 or 3 years..happy1.gif

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 Posted: Fri Apr 6th, 2007 09:28 pm
   
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finzup wrote: This is my first post on the 3T Forum.  I have been participating @ WUS and other forums for a while and signed up here not only to join what I heard was a great Forum but also to learn more about the saga that's happened on the WUS DOXA forum.

Boy have I learned something! I was just observing with no judgements being made, I just wanted to read the uncensored facts (if they do exist).

But the most recent postings have prompted me to make two statements:

1) THANK YOU to O.A. Gaspar & KenC @ 3T (also to Eddie @ TX-UK, Mitch @ Ocean7 Fora/WUS and the moderators @ the Dive Fora/WUS) for providing the means and opportunity for watch enthusiasts to hang out, learn from each other and share experiences, all without the fear of censorship or heavy handed moderation.  Hopefully mutual respect and common courtesy will continue to be the true regulators of our own postings.  Sometimes this is not the case and those that do not exhibit these reasonable expectations deserve to get the flamed responses they have provoked.

2) THANK YOU to any and all current or retired Military, Law Enforcement, or Emergency Personnel for making sacrifices and putting your life at risk on a daily basis so that others around the world and in your local communities will be better off.  My Grandfather served in WW2 with the Canadian Forces as a cook.  Whether a highly decorated war hero or a cook, EVERY contribution to the military should be celebrated and appreciated.  Wars are not won by one man or woman.  Insulting or questioning someone's Military service is truly sad & pathetic.  I completely understand KenC's reaction to JV's posting, JV's comments were completely uncalled for & just plain wrong.

I am now wondering... if this forum gave J. Vargas the means to fully explain the situation and back-up all the claims he has made (not that I have seen them all but I am sure they are scattered around the internet somewhere) why has he not made a clear, concise and complete statement of ALL the facts so that others could read them and come to their own conclusions?  Just lay them all out there, together in one posting.

Frankly if JVargas does possess a JD degree then I would never want this guy for my lawyer!  This is no way to present the evidence if you plan on winning over a jury.  His methods would just land him in jail for contempt of court.  Maybe this is why he was working in customer service for $12.00/ hour and not making $1000/ hour as a lawyer.  But then who am I to judge.

Just my CAD$0.02 worth.

Nicely stated and welcome to 3T!!

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