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 Posted: Tue Aug 21st, 2007 03:52 pm
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Hi all
 
I received the Fortis Marinemaster watch today.
Initially, I was pleased with it, although when I attempted to size the bracelet, one of the link retaining screws sheared off instead of unscrewing.  I was willing to let that slide.  Once I sized the bracelet, I wound the watch about 40-50 times, set the time to the time.gov website. After about 2 hrs it was running +1 second.  Then an hour later, it stopped! :shock: I was puzzled.  I wound the watch again, and it ran for about 15 seconds then stopped again.  I shook the watch a little, and it started to run again.  Now it has been running for about 30 minutes.
 
Obviously, I am very concerned.   
 
Any ideas from you good folks as to what might be going on here??
 
Should I just return it to the seller or have it serviced (at his expense)?
 
Mark
 
 

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 Posted: Tue Aug 21st, 2007 04:09 pm
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Wear it for a good 3 to 4 hours letting it get wound good on the wrist. If that issue still exist I would then see about returning for servicing. Possible the watch had sat in the box for awhile. Some times the movement oils can gunk up but that dose not always require service. Sometimes it can be worked loose and be fine after several hours of working. Hoping for the best for you there. ;)

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 Posted: Tue Aug 21st, 2007 04:15 pm
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Skipdawg wrote: Wear it for a good 3 to 4 hours letting it get wound good on the wrist. If that issue still exist I would then see about returning for servicing. Possible the watch had sat in the box for awhile. Some times the movement oils can gunk up but that dose not always require service. Sometimes it can be worked loose and be fine after several hours of working. Hoping for the best for you there. ;)

Thanks Skip, that is what I was hoping to hear.  I'll wear it and see how it performs.

I assume that if the problem persists, that it is likely a simple fix for a repairman?  Lube it or possibly a hair or dust in the movement?

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 Posted: Tue Aug 21st, 2007 04:27 pm
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Yea if that is it a simple cleaning should do the trick. :)

My brother had a Invicta that was acting like that. But after wearing it all started working fine by the next day. ;)

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 Posted: Tue Aug 21st, 2007 07:32 pm
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Yeah I think Skip is right on the money...  hope it keeps on ticking.. watch2.gif

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 Posted: Tue Aug 21st, 2007 08:05 pm
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Is this watch new?

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 Posted: Tue Aug 21st, 2007 08:38 pm
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Hi Eric,  yes the watch is new with warranty.  The seller has provided me with the Canadian repair facility.

Knock on wood, its been running good since my first post...

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 Posted: Tue Aug 21st, 2007 08:40 pm
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Can't you simply return the watch? At that price point it should run out of the box.

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At least I would send the link in to get another one.  For some reason it sounds as though it was winding by you moving the watch while you were twisting the crown, and not from winding.  Give her a shot and I would be interested in the progress of the break in.  Just a thought, but pooling should not be an issue with that piece.

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jsb806f wrote: Can't you simply return the watch? At that price point it should run out of the box.

I suppose I could, but I haven't pushed the seller for that resolution yet.  I'm sure he would not refund my shipping ($30) or return shipping (another $20-30), so then I'm out $50-60.  Since he is not a dealer, this was his only one, and I got an incredible deal on it (hmmm, makes you wonder) I can't simply ask for a replacement.

Given how much I saved on the purchase price, it might be easier if I keep it and have it warrantied locally or have my local watch guy give it a quick service.

As of now, it is running +4 after 7 hrs.

Lets see how it does overnight.  Looking forward to seeing that lume dial at 3am :)

 

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e.avery wrote: At least I would send the link in to get another one.  For some reason it sounds as though it was winding by you moving the watch while you were twisting the crown, and not from winding.  Give her a shot and I would be interested in the progress of the break in.  Just a thought, but pooling should not be an issue with that piece.

Hi Eric, good point about the link, although I removed 3 links for my 7" wrist, it is not likely that I'll ever need it.

By "pooling" you mean that the lubrication pooled and is not where it is supposed to be?  You don't think this is likely on this movement?

Regarding your thought that the watch wound iteslf by movement rather than the crown winding isn't likely the cause, as the watch was not running when it arrived, and started to run as I wound the crown, so I am pretty certain that the crown winding did work.

I'll report further tomorrow and let you all know how it fares.  Thanks to all for your help so far!

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Pooling is an industry term and can only be seen by a binocular microscope.  It refers to the way the lubricants collect on the jewels and shafts of the gears and wheels.

If it took 40 winds to get the movement to activate for that short of a cycle, and the crown was the method by which the power was getting to the spring.  Then you have major problems, that will not correct them selves.  With out having it in my hands any thing is just a guess.  I will ask my watch makers when they get to work in a couple of hours and get back to you.

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