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| Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 09:21 pm |
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Dear Friends, I saw an Eberhard in my latest edition of InSync Magazine. I went to check it out on the internet and Googled Eberhard. To my surpise I turned up a bunch of sites featuring replica watches. For example, link edited/removed by 3T admin/O 1. What are the ethical issues surrounding the purchase of replica watches, if any? 2. Are these replics any good? Looks like many of them are made in Japan using Japanese automatic or quartz movements. Seiko does to and that's a well respected high quality brand. Your thoughts?
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 09:23 pm |
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rare m5 3T WIS
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Don't buy replica watches.... Period.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 09:27 pm |
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srh_pres 3T WIS 
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I agree, wouldnt knowingly buy a replica - but a nice hommage for sure...;)
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 09:53 pm |
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That's not being very responsive. I can't afford to hang an original Van Gogh in my living room but I can afford to own and display a high quality print. I suspect many of us have or have owned at some point art prints of priceless paintings. How is that any different than a replica Rolex Explorer? I am not saying I would or that anyone should go out and buy a replica (or fake) watch. I'm asking a legitimate question here for educational purposes. Last edited on Fri Sep 28th, 2007 09:54 pm by |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 09:58 pm |
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Design?............according to Einstein's theory of the stream of consciousness, there are no new ideas. One simply reaches into the stream and implements an already known idea. In watches, there are just so many things you can do with a case, dial and hands....the combinations are finite! Homages, look-a-likes, near misses, influenced by...et al....fine with me as long as it is clearly marked! But a true replica...a watch intended to fool someone into thinking it is other than it really is...is a counterfeit, and thus, illegal!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 10:03 pm |
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srh_pres 3T WIS
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I think we're saying the same thing... I would equate the high quality print of a Van Gogh to an 'hommage' watch - some of them are almost identical to the watch they are based on, just without having the copyrighted logos etc.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 10:10 pm |
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hucky 3T WIS 
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I would buy one as a beater to make sure I like it before I spend 14,000.00 dollars on a watch that I probably wont wear due to its a safe queen at that price. I bought a marina militaire to see how they felt on my wrist before buying a panerai When a guy sells one to somebody knowing that it is fake, thats a drag and im sure they are all over the place. Cheers
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 10:13 pm |
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jsb806f Guest
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Ken, That's what I would think. However, if that is true, there seem to be a lot of sites on the internet where you can apparently purchase these "illegal" watches. I've read a number of the "legal notices" explaining that these are sold as replics and not as the original item. The seller is clearly stating that these are not the originals. If I then purchase the replica and tell others it is the real deal I might be engaged in unethical behavior but certainly not illegal behavior. You really aren't saying that someone can be arrested for buying or wearing a replica watch?
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 10:16 pm |
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KenC Admin
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JSB....To me, it is the intent of deception. Period, end of story.....a Print, regardless of the quality, while still beautiful, is not intended to convince someone that it is an original Van Gogh oil! A counterfeit Rolex with all of the markings including a fake green hologram, is intended to deceive in an effort to conclude a fraudulent act for some sort of personal gain....as opposed to the Seiko "Rolex Day-Date" homage that looks identical to the Rolex, but is clearly marked for what it is!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 10:20 pm |
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jsb806f wrote: Ken, Legally...yes...one does expose himself to that risk...although the "law" is after the distributors and manufacturers (who usually remain discreetly offshore)! We have all read about goods such as fake Levi's, High-end watch replica's, high- end purses, etc. being confiscated by customs and the police!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 10:22 pm |
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Hucky, Good point but that's a different question. I completely understand the initial reaction of buying something that I thought was real only to find out it is a fake! If I sell you a replica Rolex Explorer and claim that I am selling you an original that would be both unethical and illegal. That's a form of stealing. I am taking your money (and lots of it) under a false pretense. That's the same as buying a used car when the dealer has rolled back the miles. I am being cheated. I'd really like to own a Panerai not beacuse of what is inside but because I like the way it looks. If I could buy a watch that was a replica of a Panerai but had the guts of a Seiko for $250 I think I would be happy. Again, I am troubled by my logic but it doesn't seem "wrong" anymore than owning my Ansel Adams print is wrong. I bought it knowing it wasn't the original photograph. I like it a lot. I certainly haven't done anything "illegal" by buying it and the print shop in the mall hasn't done anything illegal by selling it to me as a copy. But have I done something wrong.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 10:27 pm |
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That's making more sense to me Ken. I would probably be more confortable if I were buying a "Bolex" designed to look like a Rolex versus a watch specifically made to deceive one into believing it is the real deal. I believe the Hong Kong Sandoz does that by comparing itself to the Rolex in side-by-side pictures. They are saying our product "looks" like a Rolex but at a fraction of the cost. So if you like the look but can't afford the real thing consider our Sandoz. they aren't selling a product designed to masquerade as a Rolex. If however I am only deceiving myself is any harm done? If I buy a fake Rolex and you see it on my wrist and think it is a real Rolex that wouldn't be illegal? It might be dishonest and lame? Last edited on Fri Sep 28th, 2007 10:30 pm by |
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