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| Posted: Sat Jan 5th, 2008 06:08 pm |
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srh_pres 3T WIS 
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and with a Rasmus-like bracelet... the pre-order is $850 CJ, but will go up - this is for the first 100 piece run only....;) canadajo wrote: the bezel looks Tutima ....the face Kobald.... I like it alot ......how much does one save compared to a Nautilus ???
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| Posted: Sun Jan 6th, 2008 12:02 am |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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with it not being due until April the deposit is low enough for most WIS to plan ahead for a sweet watch imohand6.gif
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| Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2008 11:49 am |
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esantelli 3T WIS
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I think the Korsbek represent a fantastic value when compared to some others mentioned The bezel width is 45mm similar to Kobold LSD, with a Marathon like configuration according to Poul, it really doesn't look anything like the LM6. The design id bezel dominant, curved 4mm crystal and very thick 17mm plus, i think the base case is very similar to the LSD Kenzo calls his watch 44m this is the case edge measurement not the bezel which is closer to 42mm, standard case from the Alphatime and Atlantis, very nice by the way, but different look For US based consumers Seattle locale is huge The German made Fricker case is an advantage over Asian sourced cases, O7,Nauticfish,etc, I know these are nicely made but would stick with Fricker. The mov't 2824, not sw200 The price is 850USD vs 890euros for the Kenzo The bracelet looks very similar to the Kenzo and the Rasmus The only issue with any of these projects is how much effort is put into regulating the movements, I have the Yao Blackwater which is the most accurate watch I own because Bill does a great job regulating them. My Enzo ran very fast but after Enzo regulated it it was spot on, my Bathys with the 2892 was incredibly accurate. I honestly think if these guys would take the time to check each watch post delivery and ensure they are running accurately, put them on a timing device and send the strip with the watch, this would be very helpful, fewer returns for regulation and good feedback. EDS
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| Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2008 12:18 pm |
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srh_pres 3T WIS
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Welcome aboard 3T - glad you found your way over to us. Good observations and I agree...;) esantelli wrote: I think the Korsbek represent a fantastic value when compared to some others mentioned
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| Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2008 02:24 pm |
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Crue4 3T WIS 
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It has an appeal, but when I look at it side by side with a Triton for instance.. I think the Triton has the better appeal... albeit NOT a Fricker, but it is a lower pricepoint. As for the Kobold likeness, that is what initially sparked my interest in it... but when I look at those 2 side by side.. it doesn't call me like the Kobold (even though I probably will not own one of those either). I am kinda up in the air. I have a feeling though that these will pop up on sales forum for less after release... .. I could be wrong but I think selling 100 will be no easy task... and that means the resell price will certainly be less. But I will say spec wise, it sure seems to be a very quality piece.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2008 04:06 pm |
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esantelli 3T WIS
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I actually own the LSD and Seal While the Korsbek is not as elegant a design, it does have some excellent design features, and for 1/4 the price tough to beat. Will you find one used ,very likely, just like the Kenzo's, Enzo's,Triton's they will pop up on the forums. It is rare that even the successful LE watches increase in value, the Dreadnaught, is a rare example, certainly the O7 LM1 is a better example they tend to sell roughly around the purchase price, even the recently sold Kenzos are roughly 100-150 less. One of the nice features is that Poul let's you pick bezels black or SS, and has plans for others, aka Stowa. I like the Triton , it just does not have the toolish look IMHO eds
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| Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2008 04:44 pm |
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Dookie 3T WIS
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In all fairness, credit to paul from korbek being a total gentleman n nice enuff person to talk to etc2, i think we can safetly assume the majority of people who preordered the watch is putting their trust not on korsbek but on frickers reputation. all the frickers cases ive handled or owned r really second to none in quality. if independents like ocean7 can charge 1k for a diver on a bracelet, design aesthetics aside i dun see how the 800odd $$ for the korsbek is not an instant give-away. In terms of profit margins, frickers is charging subtainally a lot more than their chinese counterparts. im really thinkin of getting one myself, just tryign to get a deal of another grial i had my eyes on for a while.  chris
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| Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2008 04:50 pm |
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Eric L. 3T WIS 
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Well put - I agree entirely. For a Fricker cased diver, its at a good price point. Ocean7 really elevated their prices with every new model, and its a little annoying to me how they charge extra for a bracelet which should be standard. Still, very nice watches though. I really like my LM-1. Dookie wrote: In all fairness, credit to paul from korbek being a total gentleman n nice enuff person to talk to etc2, i think we can safetly assume the majority of people who preordered the watch is putting their trust not on korsbek but on frickers reputation. all the frickers cases ive handled or owned r really second to none in quality. if independents like ocean7 can charge 1k for a diver on a bracelet, design aesthetics aside i dun see how the 800odd $$ for the korsbek is not an instant give-away. In terms of profit margins, frickers is charging subtainally a lot more than their chinese counterparts. im really thinkin of getting one myself, just tryign to get a deal of another grial i had my eyes on for a while.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2008 08:23 pm |
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Crue4 3T WIS
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I think the comparison to Ocean 7 is a valid one. I would bet that the Korsbek will be a better quality piece (if fricker is doing the entire piece and assembly) ... for a better price with bracelet... but that still doesn't mean it does anything for me... As for the Ocean 7 prices without bracelet... IF I was to get one.. it most certainly would be pre-owned. But Ocean 7 dials are too plain looking to me especially for the prices they charge (the dials are just cheap looking).. reminds me of the Bill Yao Dials that you can drop in most seiko's and eta 2824's installed $50 range... I will say the LM3 blue has some appeal for its unique color, although drawbacks are a small dial and average lume (which is a no no for me in a dive watch) . Bathys another company that amazingly is selling their watches for amounts that I find surprising folks are willing to pay ... Mother of Pearl Diver? I thought Invicta had the market cornered on that? As for my Triton comparison, it was simply that... it certainly is not more "toolish"... simply to my eye I think it looks better.. with that said I am positive that it shouldn't be as good of quality though as the Korsbek. I certainly would agree that anything made by Fricker is going to blow the doors off a Steinhart... I do look forward to seeing some on the used market... as at the right price I certainly would like to handle one in person.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2008 09:40 pm |
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esantelli 3T WIS
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That's what makes this hobby get everyone has their own of idea of what is desirable I actually think the Korsbek CAD drawings are not a very accurate indication of what the watch will look like, when compared to the Fricker spec drawings Poul has posted It will be interesting to see the prototype photos cheers eds
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| Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2008 11:26 pm |
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Crue4 3T WIS
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I think you are exactly right I look forward to seeing the watch in the "steel" when the prototype get to him. Who knows I am certainly not ruling out jumping in there ...
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| Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2008 11:44 pm |
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Dookie 3T WIS
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Yea Crue4, im right up there with up bout ocean7 being a tad bland though, but i guess that the direction they r goin, the signature ocean7 look. Im a bit weary of whether anything fricker will blow off all of the steinhart or chinese cased watches though, utimately fricker is just another case maker, if the same technique n equipment r applied, i dont see why one cant churn out similiar quality products. However fricker does have an impressive track record to at least settle the anxious hearts out there.i haven handled the triton personally but i got the steinhart pilot a while back and its a very very well made piece especially at the price point, i think not many on the market now that can upstage steinhart. cool10.gifcool10.gif chris
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