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 Posted: Mon Jan 17th, 2011 01:31 pm
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MrETime wrote: Oh well, truth be told, experience is the greatest teacher .. The owners of one of the largest high end retailers in the NY area ( the own several high end stores ) have seen the Virtuoso Tungsten. They studied
it's construction, the movement and the overall design.

The result: after studying Wing's newest creation, they
pointed out to me that the price on this
watch " defies Logic " and that it should be
much more expensive.

I understand opinion can be subjective and
oftimes self serving, but, I prefer the word
of those who earn their living and lots of
dollars by selling the highest end swiss brands
which many on this forum own. They consider
Wing's Virtuoso line to be of extroardinary
high quality and a significant buy at these
prices. Enjoy the days !!

MrETime

And this is precisely the type of BS used by Slop to sell watches at inflated prices. I'm sure they said this very same thing about one of the outstanding Renatos too...subtlelaugh.gif

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And please, I'd appreciate not hearing that I'm new to this game .. experts speak louder than we do .. Mr Mayface
has made an excellent assertion respective of the latest
Android Virtuoso. Prior to his past year, I would say that
Wing had not yet begun to ascend the mountain of TIME

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MrETime wrote: Oh well, truth be told, experience is the greatest teacher .. The owners of one of the largest high end retailers in the NY area ( the own several high end stores ) have seen the Virtuoso Tungsten. They studied
it's construction, the movement and the overall design.

The result: after studying Wing's newest creation, they
pointed out to me that the price on this
watch " defies Logic " and that it should be
much more expensive.

I understand opinion can be subjective and
oftimes self serving, but, I prefer the word
of those who earn their living and lots of
dollars by selling the highest end swiss brands
which many on this forum own. They consider
Wing's Virtuoso line to be of extroardinary
high quality and a significant buy at these
prices. Enjoy the days !!

MrETime
it's pretty obvious you only just joined to stir the pot so get ready as you seem to be under the spell of of a well known con who hosts a Shopping show and has very little watch knowledge imo...agreed...experience is the greatest teacher and I also welcome you to take some time and learn before making a post that "defies logic" my friend.
..most chain jewelers don't even have a watchmaker on site and send everything out and if you take the word of a sales person who only holds the knowledge of how to ring up a sale than you are in trouble...take this watch to an expert...someone who really knows watches and you will hear exactly what many have posted here... many if not all who own these high dollar Swiss brands as well as knowing the value a watch holds regardless of cost and have something to compare to and don't need the word of a sales person who is probably being fed the same BS you are at the hands of Slopnbs....you remind me of an ex-member who posted he was offered a Ferrari for his Renato and refused!dog smile.gif

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MrETime wrote: And please, I'd appreciate not hearing that I'm new to this game .. experts speak louder than we do .. Mr Mayface
has made an excellent assertion respective of the latest
Android Virtuoso. Prior to his past year, I would say that
Wing had not yet begun to ascend the mountain of TIME

MrETyme

bamby.gif now that is funnyThumbsup3.gif

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Would someone DARE to say the price of this timepiece from China that Mr ETime present as THE new collector stuff and last great deal on the web????

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Tony Duronio wrote:
I think the point is buy what you you want because you are informed with the decision made. Do not fall for the hype during a TV presentation from a host, or producer of a watch, whose "only" job is to sell a product...period.

As far as the micro-brand issue, I have no quarrel with you. Point here being is that when I go to sell a Miyota or ETA driven Android, I take a beating on it, yet these micro brands have a captive audience willing to spend hundreds more for seemingly the same product. Don't know why but something else I've learned in my 51 years....many time perception is more important than reality. JM2cents

In any case, enjoy the watch and hopefully you will learn a few things from us and we from you.

Thanks Tony. As far as hype, I don't fall for it. When this watch finally aired last week, I had already had it in hand. Wing stated that he was making a watch with the same case as his tourbillon. I knew at that point I wanted it. I knew the quality would be there and that wasnt going to be anything else like it around.

I must say that the resale really doesn't enter into my head when I'm looking to grab a watch. However I have noticed that the micro brands do very well in the resale market.

LMAO! Looks like I've stirred up something around here. Did I mention I have a couple micro brands coming soon? LOL!

Later

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Hammerfjord wrote: Would someone DARE to say the price of this timepiece from China that Mr ETime present as THE new collector stuff and last great deal on the web????


Here you go my friend: Go easy pleasedog smile.gif

http://www.shopnbc.com/Android_Men_s_Limited_Edition_Virtuoso_Mechanical_Chronograph_Leather_Strap_Watch/J401118.aspx?storeid=1&cm_re=SearchList-_-N-_-N&prop=Watches|229&prop=Men%27s%20Watches|472&prop=Android|475

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I couldn't care less about snbc !! And, I have no interest in buoying their opinions or point of view. So, let me make that perfectly clear guys !! ..

These are not salesmen in a jewelery store. This is a
'major watch high end retailer' with a 'few' major high end stores .. they carry Rolex, Panerai, Cartier, Breitling, H Mueller and many, many others. They do not
carry Japanese/Chinese movement timepieces. These were
the owners who studied the piece, people who know watches
and value ... I would never have bought an Android years
ago, or even two years ago .. but .. that being said, I
repeat that I prefer to listen to experts, though I value
everyone's opinion !!! .. the last thing I would be doing
is to play mind games with you, or, join to provoke my
new friends ... Best Wishes to All ... and Joy.

MrETyme

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IMHO I don't care what any so called expert says. If I like or don't like a watch is what matters.

If you like it and want it buy it. Dealers and retailers opinion don't interest me much. I value designers and builders of times pieces opinion more. Yet it is still all about personal taste.

I own watches worth $30 to around $6000 and like and wear them all. Some of my sub $200 beaters I wear much more than others.

Talk it out guys if it pleases you but do keep it civil OK.

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I agree Skipdawg. Though I do value the owner of this particular high end watch group, I do value the designers and builders more. It takes remarkable talent to produce any of these beautiful executions, especially when offered
at exceptional prices to us, the end user.

Best, MrET__e

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Tony Duronio wrote:
Hammerfjord wrote: Would someone DARE to say the price of this timepiece from China that Mr ETime present as THE new collector stuff and last great deal on the web????


Here you go my friend: Go easy pleasedog smile.gif


http://www.shopnbc.com/Android_Men_s_Limited_Edition_Virtuoso_Mechanical_Chronograph_Leather_Strap_Watch/J401118.aspx?storeid=1&cm_re=SearchList-_-N-_-N&prop=Watches|229&prop=Android|475


Ok! 700 buks... This is what was my last 700$ buy on the net: Housing a 7750 Valjoux...
Don't tell me that the tungsten case makes it all or you'll have to see how many tungsten-carbide/Hong-Kong watches are selling for 100-200buks on the Bay...
For the Seagull mvt...Cost and finish is LOW whatever the decoration and whatever you've been told.
I will make no other comments: People who know about SWISS watches and maybe MrETimemistake.gif will certainly understand it all...





Enjoy: http://cgi.ebay.com/Swiss-Made-Revue-Thommen-Pilots-Automatic-Chronograph-/270693581004?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item3f069840cc#ht_8835wt_1139

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MrETime wrote: I couldn't care less about snbc !! And, I have no interest in buoying their opinions or point of view. So, let me make that perfectly clear guys !! ..

These are not salesmen in a jewelery store. This is a
'major watch high end retailer' with a 'few' major high end stores .. they carry Rolex, Panerai, Cartier, Breitling, H Mueller and many, many others. They do not
carry Japanese/Chinese movement timepieces. These were
the owners who studied the piece, people who know watches
and value ... I would never have bought an Android years
ago, or even two years ago .. but .. that being said, I
repeat that I prefer to listen to experts, though I value
everyone's opinion !!! .. the last thing I would be doing
is to play mind games with you, or, join to provoke my
new friends ... Best Wishes to All ... and Joy.

MrETyme
as amusing as your story is my friend you just answered yourself by stating this high end store does not carry Japanese/Chinese movement timepieces...surprised about the Japanese as Seiko is a mainstay in many high end stores that sell watches but again the store in question does not carry Android nor do any other brick & mortors to my knowledge.
..Andoid is a made for TV brand and I'm not knocking the OP or Wing/Android ...it's a simple fact and unfortunate that when the TV brands try to go high end they fail and the WIS who buy them and sell them later lose big time...they are a great value in the $300. and under range and as I said before I own several Androids and actually went crazy buying them when they were selling off their models that had eta movements in them for under $200. a few years ago and if I were to sell these I would still lose $..I bought them for the movements just as I have bought other Slopnbc made brands for their exotic straps which were being cleared out at low prices.
...Please listen and learn is all we are trying to purvey on any level meaning how far you have come along as a WIS...some catch on quickly others never do but whatever makes you happy is most important and there are forums for every level to share your watches that may suit you better....my only advice is to get acquainted with a forum before posting as not all may share the same feelings as you when it comes to certain brands...

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