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| Posted: Sat Apr 2nd, 2011 12:57 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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Jeep99dad wrote:I'm not sure about parts availability for this RW2427 Slava mvt nor ease of service by local Watchmakers. I have no expertise in that area, sorry :) Totally agree Brice: At this price point, the case could be 1000m tight and housing a good grade 2824-2. Or a even 500m case with a 2892-2. Some "Swiss made" brands been doing it.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 2nd, 2011 01:01 pm |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS 
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Yup. I love the 2892 and its always more accurate, thinner to squeeze in cases but I hear it's not as tough as the 2824? Also I like the irony of a Russian mvt in a "Patriot" watch :)
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| Posted: Sat Apr 2nd, 2011 01:17 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Jeep99dad wrote:Yup. I love the 2892 and its always more accurate, thinner to squeeze in cases but I hear it's not as tough as the 2824? I would say that the 2824-2 isn't as refined as the 2892-2 and therefor less sensible on the field. Ofcourse the chronometer grade is most likely best on the 2892-2. Yes, specialy for an American "patriot" watch, a Russian mvt is paradoxal... Seems like the ending of the cold war is profitable for some guys 
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| Posted: Sat Apr 2nd, 2011 03:50 pm |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS
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I thought I'd post this from the company intro by the owner on another forum. It provides his opinion on the mvt as some expressed their concerns about the pricey Resco using this old modified non hacking Russian mvt. "I read some questions and concerns about the movement that I would like to address. YES, the movement is a Slava S-2427. Since, as some of you super sleuth smart guys have noticed, the dial is lacking the date feature that would normally be present on the 2427. I have chosen to have that part removed to simplify things. These movements are vintage NOS movements were chosen over an ETA-28XX after EXTENSIVE field testing in some pretty bumpy environments. I found that the only way I was able to stop the beat was to actually TRY and break the watch. In a nutshell, A RESCO Patriot prototype has been through every Phase of Navy SEAL training, to include Hellweek and came out ticking away. As we speak that same prototype is being vetted in the advanced training blocks at the Advanced Team level. It is scratched to hell but I'm not losing any sleep over the durability.....It'll be fine; the Patriot can take care of its self. I don't know of ANY OTHER company that can say this about their watches. But then again, I don't know of any other SEALs that design, build and test their products in an actual operational environment." Last edited on Sat Apr 2nd, 2011 03:53 pm by Jeep99dad |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 2nd, 2011 04:29 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Jeep99dad wrote:I thought I'd post this from the company intro by the owner on another forum. It provides his opinion on the mvt as some expressed their concerns about the pricey Resco using this old modified non hacking Russian mvt. I've been reading this stuff before... First: A watch don't have to be guaranteed for such treatment to be able to pass it. He present the 2824-2 like a movement who would be too weak to withstand the SEAL training...? Bullcrap! Marathon uses the 2824-2 as I said earlyer and there's no surprise there. I tested it in the cold myself:http://www.timetechtalk.com/view_topic.php?id=19567&forum_id=1&highlight=marathon+cold+test Remember that a watch on a living man's wrist would NEVER be exposed to so low temperature as the one I let in the snow all night. This is what the 2824-2 can take on low temperature: -13 celsius without going out of COSC specs. For the shock test: I was using my Seastar 1000 Tissot(housing a 2824-2) on the northern-most LNG plant(Snow white), working 12 hours a day in row for 14 days, hammering keys to free and lock bolted huge flanges before high pressure torquing... The 2824-2 took all the beating without any trouble, even when the 1kg hammer riped off from a key and accidently smashed right on the watch's face: To be said, if I didn't have the watch, my wrist's bones would have break in. The 2824-2 took it again. Honnestly: What is up there? The Slava was cheaper, that's for sure...Better? Prove it to me!
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| Posted: Sat Apr 2nd, 2011 04:37 pm |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS
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I don't disagree. I just wanted to post his message to give everyone more info.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 2nd, 2011 04:55 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Jeep99dad wrote:I don't disagree. I just wanted to post his message to give everyone more info. I know Brice...This message wasn't specialy posted for you my friend. Forgive my pagan mouth
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| Posted: Sat Apr 2nd, 2011 05:30 pm |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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Brice may be you wanna send Will that watch and he can test the Slava in his operational environment!! Sounds brutal Will and I recall when you did that with the Tissot and put the Marathon through the deep freeze.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 2nd, 2011 06:03 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Paxman wrote:Brice may be you wanna send Will that watch and he can test the Slava in his operational environment!! Yes Mark, you recall it! I don't know how to find back my post about the Tissot accident... Anyway, I can tell that I worked until I puked my guts on the rig so the Navy-Seal training week can't be harder than that on a watch. I now use a watch housing a 2801-2(hand-cranker) because I don't want to abuse my automatic watches. The 2801-1 is so bad, that you would most likely ruine your joints with a pneumatic hammer before it gives up: This test, I've done it with 2 automatic Vostoks and they broke.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 2nd, 2011 06:06 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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1 of the major problems with the Slava 2427 was the date not changing and getting hung up so was it wise to leave it out on the Resco or a necessary precaution. ...the 2427 is a twin barrel..there are 5 gears instead of 2 winding the mainspring which the 2427 has 2 of(mainsprings) ...imo a less complicated movement ie:eta 2824/2892 would have been a better choice not only for dependability but also servicing as most watchmakers will not attempt working on a Russian movement...parts are also hard to come by if at all. ...again I don't believe any of this would even matter had the watch been priced lower...much lower. 
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| Posted: Sat Apr 2nd, 2011 06:13 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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oagaspar wrote:1 of the major problems with the Slava 2427 was the date not changing and getting hung up so was it wise to leave it out on the Resco or a necessary precaution. You said it Oscar...The price builded out this discution...
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| Posted: Sat Apr 2nd, 2011 06:16 pm |
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elemental 3T WIS
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I will sum it up...;).. -Find vortex -wear vortex -prosper ;)
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