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| Posted: Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 10:16 am |
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KenC wrote: Paxman wrote:I am speechless after that one.Stay safe buddy and a big thanks for your service.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 10:24 am |
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Paxman wrote: KenC wrote:Paxman wrote:Stay safe buddy and a big thanks for your service. WOW! That's two of us! 
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| Posted: Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 10:51 am |
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Thanks for all the well wishes everybody. I've got more pics coming and will just post 'em in this thread when I get around to it. The LAAARRRGE(it's freaking huge!) building in the background is NOT the new US Embassy. I don't know it's name, but it was intended to be the worlds largest mosque. It's larger than the Taj Mahal and those cranes have not moved once since I've been here. Construction stopped when the war began and has not resumed. There are several buildings in Baghdad in the same predicament. A crane on one fell over a couple of weeks ago due to high winds.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 4th, 2008 06:56 pm |
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I was in Baghdad (also Mosul, Karbala, Najaf, Nineveh) 19 years ago; it was an impressive city. They unveiled the swords in the background the very week I was there; there were celebrations in Sa'adoun street and all over the Tigris (Dijla) strip on Abu Nuwas. I suppose many Iraqis miss that Baghdad. As a westerner, and a very agnostic one at that, I was even able to visit Karbala on Ashura without any trouble from fanatics of any kind; in fact, the regular army even protected me when I faced some curious gazes and questions from a mullah in the Husseiniyeh shrine. A solider looked and yelled at the mullah to shut up, and told him in Arabic (I understood) that as a tourist I was welcome to go into the building. I'm not sure I would try that stunt today... The funny thing is, I went to Baghdad after working on an archaeological dig in Jordan. I had the chance to visit Cairo also. I chose Baghdad because, as I told a friend, "Cairo I can visit anytime, who knows if Baghdad will be standing a few years from now"..... I'm hoping Teheran does not go the kind of 'transformation' witnessed in Baghdad. Last edited on Fri Apr 4th, 2008 07:51 pm by Alessandro |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 11:24 am |
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murphy j 3T WIS
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   The first pic is from an IED explosion that was used in an attack against the Iraqi Army. The second pic is a statue that we pass daily, it's on the road coming from BIAP/Victory Base Camp. The third one is, or so I've been told, the Baghdad Hilton.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 03:31 pm |
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scottran 3T WIS
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murphy j wrote:
Thanks for the cool pics. Iraqi Army?? If you listen to the media here there is none. Stay safe and be sure to tell everyone over there we are thinking about them and that we appreciate their service.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 04:09 pm |
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Scott, look close at the picture of the statue. Those hummers belong to the Iraqi army. They're there and we see them all the time. The media would have you believe we have to do everything and that the Iraqi's do nothing. They aern't up to our standards professionally, but they exist as a fighting force.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 04:38 pm |
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Very cool and thanks for the inside look. Stay safe!! Stupid question which you may be can answer. Is the exisitng Iraqi army made up of those similarly employed for the previous regime? Just curious what happened to those guys...
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 04:49 pm |
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murphy j 3T WIS
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Paxman wrote: Very cool and thanks for the inside look. Stay safe!!I believe, but don't quote me on it, that a lot of the senior officers are from the previous regime. There was a lack of experienced senior people when we first started to help rebuild their army and I believe we asked quite a few of the experienced commanders to come back, including some that had fought us both times. I'm not sure about the average rank and file, but I'm sure some of those guys were from the previous incarnation of the Iraqi army.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 12:06 pm |
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Alessandro wrote: I was in Baghdad (also Mosul, Karbala, Najaf, Nineveh) 19 years ago; it was an impressive city. They unveiled the swords in the background the very week I was there; there were celebrations in Sa'adoun street and all over the Tigris (Dijla) strip on Abu Nuwas. I suppose many Iraqis miss that Baghdad. As a westerner, and a very agnostic one at that, I was even able to visit Karbala on Ashura without any trouble from fanatics of any kind; in fact, the regular army even protected me when I faced some curious gazes and questions from a mullah in the Husseiniyeh shrine. A solider looked and yelled at the mullah to shut up, and told him in Arabic (I understood) that as a tourist I was welcome to go into the building. I'm not sure I would try that stunt today... The funny thing is, I went to Baghdad after working on an archaeological dig in Jordan. I had the chance to visit Cairo also. I chose Baghdad because, as I told a friend, "Cairo I can visit anytime, who knows if Baghdad will be standing a few years from now"..... Not sure what to make of your remarks.... "I suppose many Iraqis miss that Baghdad" are you speaking of the Baghdad under teriny? and an oppressive regime? "I'm hoping Teheran does not go the kind of "transformation" witnessed in Baghdad" Better that they live under a fanatically nut case and fear for there lives? I would like to see Teheran transformed differently also....into a dust bowl..either by our forces or for us to take the handcuffs off Isreal and let them take care of the problem themselves. If I have taken your remarks out of context, sorry, but when we have our young men and women risking there lives to protect the great country of America and most of the weak kneed Western world............well lets say I get a little pixxed off.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 01:28 pm |
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scottran 3T WIS
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murphy j wrote: Scott, look close at the picture of the statue. Those hummers belong to the Iraqi army. They're there and we see them all the time. The media would have you believe we have to do everything and that the Iraqi's do nothing. They aern't up to our standards professionally, but they exist as a fighting force.I dont know if people forget history or they just dont know it but, look how long it to us to get a president from the signing of the Declaration of Independance till Washington was elected. It was 12 years. Also after we won the war we had growing pains like Shae's Rebellion. I think more people were killed after the war was won than during the actual war. We also had a rag tag military during and after the Revolutionary War. The Brits were well trained and outnumbered us but our men were fighting for a cause... Freedom. Our Military didnt really come of age untill WW2 and we realized we were a global player. The spirit of our founders yearning for freedom is still enstilled in our men and women in our military and that is why we have the best in the world.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 01:54 pm |
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Scott, most people only paid attention in History to pass the class. I'm an exception, as I actually enjoy history quite a bit. Look how long we actually occupied Japan n Germany and how long it took to rebuild them. It seems most Americans expect Jeffersonian Democracy to happen overnite. I know better. Most people forget that this nation isn't a true democracy, it's actually a constitutional republic. Politicians play the 'why hasn't this happened yet?' game to garner support for their views and win votes. Now, enough with the politics. This thread is about the pictures and there are more coming. I spent the whole day today in the IZ and got a few good shots. I still need to download them to my computer and will post them here when I do.
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