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 Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 09:31 pm
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murphy j wrote:  A real friend won't set you up for failure, he'll set you up for success.I dont know what to make of this statement since I lead this conversation down the problem of mixing friendship with business path.  My friend needed a job when I hired him.  I had plans for him thinking I could trust him since were were friends all the way back to the 8th grade. I wanted to open up a second shop and have him run it.  I wanted him to succeed.  It only took about 9 months for things to go south and I spent almost another 2 years trying to get things resolved.  It was because of this experience with him I phased out my other employee and have been going it alone for the past 9 years.  I wish we could patch things up cause we were almost like brothers till this all happened. 

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 Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 10:46 pm
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scottran wrote: murphy j wrote:  A real friend won't set you up for failure, he'll set you up for success.I dont know what to make of this statement since I lead this conversation down the problem of mixing friendship with business path.  My friend needed a job when I hired him.  I had plans for him thinking I could trust him since were were friends all the way back to the 8th grade. I wanted to open up a second shop and have him run it.  I wanted him to succeed.  It only took about 9 months for things to go south and I spent almost another 2 years trying to get things resolved.  It was because of this experience with him I phased out my other employee and have been going it alone for the past 9 years.  I wish we could patch things up cause we were almost like brothers till this all happened. 


Scott...whoa!  I think you are reading way to much into that.  The statement is true...a real friend will not set a friend up for failure, but a friend may fail on his own, primarily by failing to remain true to the friend who gave him the opportunity and taking advantage of the situation/friendship.  That is when they stop being a friend.

What you did in support of your friendship was the right thing to do.  What he did was not...he failed you...you did not fail him!

Hey, this coming from the guy that Court Martialed his best friend!

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Bottom Line, there is no Friends or Family when it comes to Business

Business is Business

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 Posted: Sun Apr 13th, 2008 01:51 am
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I am fully aware and appreciate the fact,that friends are friends and work is work, that has been my philosophy for success.  No argument there.

In my opinion, when a friend has good intention to hire you--I, as an employee mustn't let him down.  Being honest in admitting my personal inqualities in a confidential manner, has shown that I care about my job and my loyalty to the company. He had phoned me earlier to reassure me that I am the right candidate for the job.

Looking forward to Monday as my core team of department heads,tackle another Tourist Season for the Spring and Summer of 2008.

I am working with a great team of people, that is the motivation that I need to
keep on going forward.



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 Posted: Sun Apr 13th, 2008 03:57 am
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KenC wrote: scottran wrote: murphy j wrote:  A real friend won't set you up for failure, he'll set you up for success.I dont know what to make of this statement since I lead this conversation down the problem of mixing friendship with business path.  My friend needed a job when I hired him.  I had plans for him thinking I could trust him since were were friends all the way back to the 8th grade. I wanted to open up a second shop and have him run it.  I wanted him to succeed.  It only took about 9 months for things to go south and I spent almost another 2 years trying to get things resolved.  It was because of this experience with him I phased out my other employee and have been going it alone for the past 9 years.  I wish we could patch things up cause we were almost like brothers till this all happened. 


Scott...whoa!  I think you are reading way to much into that.  The statement is true...a real friend will not set a friend up for failure, but a friend may fail on his own, primarily by failing to remain true to the friend who gave him the opportunity and taking advantage of the situation/friendship.  That is when they stop being a friend.

What you did in support of your friendship was the right thing to do.  What he did was not...he failed you...you did not fail him!

Hey, this coming from the guy that Court Martialed his best friend!


Scott, you read into that the wrong way. It's like Ken said, a friend can fail on his own, no matter how well you set him up. Sometimes the mix just isn't right no matter what you put into it. It sounds like, to me, that this is what happened with you and your friend. Some of my Best friends back home are guys I work with. I don't confuse our friendship with what needs to happen at work.

Simon, Congratulations again. It sounds like your friend made the right choice from where I'm standing.

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