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Pig Buckles for PAMs?

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Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 12:01 am

mcbean123
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What is a "Pig Buckle" I have seen it advertised several places and on a few watches on this site. Does it look like a pig? What, if anything, does it do?

Reid in Chelsea, MI

Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 12:35 am

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McBean123, first of all, Warm Welcome to 3T.hand6.gif

A "pig" buckle is a watch buckle shaped like a submarine or a torpedo. The buckle honors submarine warfare and strictly speaking, torpedo warfare. In the past world war, in the absence of sophisticated guiding systems, navy commandos rode on the backs of torpedoes and guided them while submerged to their targets --- "ejecting" themselves at a certain computed time before the torpedos' impact. Ejection was always preceded by a manual arming of the torpedos' warhead/explosive armament. Impact was calculated using the current, speed of the torpedo, movement of the target in a formation and a host of other things. Time therefore was crucial: a second or 2 of bad timing would mean a miss of the target's pre-determined weakest point or worse, a total miss.

Due to the fat and tubular size (girth) of these torpedos, they were affectionately called "pigs". Panerai, was the first to supply large divers' watches to the Italian Navy, an offshoot of the distinction it earned from supplying other precision marine instruments like depth gauges and compasses (usually worn on the left wrist and watch worn on the right).

For your reference, I attach a recent post of my "pig" buckle. This "pig" is on polished stainless steel. I also have versions in brushed steel and have seen a post of a "pig" in black PVD. For sure there may be titanium versions, bead-blasted versions and various sizes and shapes. The steel on this "pig" is 5mm thick.

Hope this short write-up helps :P

Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 06:05 am

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Nice post Jeff!

Here's mine, a bit different than his, in brushed steel

Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 11:21 am

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Thank you for answer regarding pig buckles. Well done.

Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 11:43 am

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Great explanation Jeff...I still need to et me a few of these

Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 12:08 pm

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Nabco wrote: Great explanation Jeff...I still need to et me a few of these

Ditto! And where would one find these??? If I may ask you gentlemen :D

Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 01:12 pm

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DM71 wrote:
Nabco wrote: Great explanation Jeff...I still need to et me a few of these

Ditto! And where would one find these??? If I may ask you gentlemen :D

The Bay is the source of all your needs grasshopper...:D

Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 01:27 pm

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bigrustypig wrote: McBean123, first of all, Warm Welcome to 3T.hand6.gif

A "pig" buckle is a watch buckle shaped like a submarine or a torpedo. The buckle honors submarine warfare and strictly speaking, torpedo warfare. In the past world war, in the absence of sophisticated guiding systems, navy commandos rode on the backs of torpedoes and guided them while submerged to their targets --- "ejecting" themselves at a certain computed time before the torpedos' impact. Ejection was always preceded by a manual arming of the torpedos' warhead/explosive armament. Impact was calculated using the current, speed of the torpedo, movement of the target in a formation and a host of other things. Time therefore was crucial: a second or 2 of bad timing would mean a miss of the target's pre-determined weakest point or worse, a total miss.

Due to the fat and tubular size (girth) of these torpedos, they were affectionately called "pigs". Panerai, was the first to supply large divers' watches to the Italian Navy, an offshoot of the distinction it earned from supplying other precision marine instruments like depth gauges and compasses (usually worn on the left wrist and watch worn on the right).

For your reference, I attach a recent post of my "pig" buckle. This "pig" is on polished stainless steel. I also have versions in brushed steel and have seen a post of a "pig" in black PVD. For sure there may be titanium versions, bead-blasted versions and various sizes and shapes. The steel on this "pig" is 5mm thick.

Hope this short write-up helps :P

Wow Jeff...thanks for the detailed and excellent explanation!!!

I feel like I just graduated from pig-buckle school!!hand6.gif

Always something new to learn at 3T. Thanks amigo!!!

Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 02:42 pm

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Hammerfjord wrote: DM71 wrote:
Nabco wrote: Great explanation Jeff...I still need to et me a few of these

Ditto! And where would one find these??? If I may ask you gentlemen :D

The Bay is the source of all your needs grasshopper...:D
Got it, THX! hand6.gif

Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 04:08 pm

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Here is the 8artisan.

http://8artisans.com/index.php/accessories/pig-buckles/big-daddy-24-mm.html

This is where I got mine.... DON <tick@can.rogers.com>

Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 04:30 pm

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teddyhanna wrote: Here is the 8artisan.

http://8artisans.com/index.php/accessories/pig-buckles/big-daddy-24-mm.html

This is where I got mine.... DON <tick@can.rogers.com>

Thanks Teddy, I found this one and the one Jeff is using, both are very nice but the 8a is more affordable. The other one cost as much as the Pig itself!!!

Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 04:34 pm

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Did you try Don..? He charge me $23.

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