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| >>> Beware SCAMMER- Alexander Voorhies, grantvalley@yahoo.com <<< | Rating: 
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21st, 2010 08:30 pm |
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sharkfin 3T WIS 
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<<< Beware scammer alert >>> - PSA Hello everybody. This post is basically a PSA- (public service announcement) of a bad guy (scammer) I recently had the misfortune of dealing with. So, I've had some bad luck as of late in my journey for grails. Against all better judgment and the urge of temptation I succumbed to the hands of a scammer. I sent off my money to the scammer via bank transfer. Now, no word/reply or tracking, nada. :( I trusted the guy, and assumed all was good as one needs a legit person/account details for bank transfer to be successful. But this guys had the balls to still pull this off. I was told by bank rep via phone support as transfer gone through, can't reverse. He also suggest I contact the FBI and I've done so with a complaint filed off. I had a momentary lapse of judgment and did the ultimate noob mistake. Was too good to be true. :( I feel so stupid and peeved at myself. Too trusting I guess, but will learn from this experience and hopefully not make another mistake like this again. I now gone full circle and have tasted the ugly side of this hobby. So will take break from the watch world to recover and reassess the collection. I hope this post will help someone in the future and bring out such scammers so others can avoid at all costs. If any one has any advice on how to deal with this person, or can contact him locally perhaps with local authorities to bring this person to justice, I welcome that. I'm trying to contact authorities in both local and this scammers jurisdictions and have since contacted the FBI on this matter. I contacted this scammer,Alexander Voorhies via his email, grantvalley@yahoo.com to buy the Doxa watch as posted in the ad for sale. Our communication was instantaneous and quick to reply up until payment had been made and further inquiries of pending tracking info for alleged deliver of sale of goods, the Doxa watch. Upon viewing other members posting that this was a fraudulent criminal, due to bad past track record and almost instant banning and deletion of his member account and posted ads, I had begun to try to contact Alexander Voorhies to address these allegations and the nature of his dealings set forth with me. He did assure me this was not true, but I did believe his word but He has since disappeared and no contact since. :( I'm not totally sure if all his info given to me is exactly true except for the banking info. But in order for bank transfers to go through to complete, this info must be correct. So my money did go to a Alexander Voorhies in CA and his contact/bank info is here. I have made repeated calls,left messages on his voicemail and no replies what so ever. This scammer, had posted in the sales forums of PMWF.com and Timezone.com. He may have posted elsewhere that I'm not fully aware of now. He went by the nicknames: speedmister @PMWF and grantmaster @timezone. His email address was grantvalley@yahoo.com & alexvoorhies@aol.com His real name, alias' and info is here: Alexander Voorhies aka -speedmister, and grantmaster 30300 Antelope Road Apt#611 Menifee, CA 92584 (951) 229 7306 His banking is with Wells Fargo in Menifee, CA. Might I suggest a section for good/bad guys posts as a resource for good reference for those who may need info before they deal. I wish I had some info on this guy before I got taken. :( Yes, some may say, why did you not think this was a scam? Well, I've had a few sweet deals, and was lucky to find,also thought was too good to be true. And this guy did provide me with legit bank info which helped make me think he wouldn't risk a scam as he's shared his identity. Just goes to show, some guys just have got some balls to pull this off. This was a very sad situation I stepped into, and was very reluctant to post as am very embarassed to admit in being conned. :( But decided to post my story, in hopes some good can come from sharing. All efforts put forth for a positive and constructive result. Update: This scammer got mad I plaster this post on key forums, and sent me an email. He basically mocked me saying the police wouldn't even bother with this case and he will not send back my money or anything. He's obviously done this before and will continue unless stopped. This is why these scams should be reported and made public no matter how embarassing or stupid the victim may feel. In this case, thats me. :( I've had mostly sympathetic posts by members who support my actions. But I've had 2 persons who have reacted and posted insinuations to try to discredit my facts. I believe this scammer is out there with multiple alias', so please beware for similar scams, and any guy remote similar to the info I've provided. Thanks for reading. Dave.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21st, 2010 08:59 pm |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS 
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it's shame to see such scammers in our hobby! Always sad to see but I guess they are everywhere! Sorry it happened to you, hope the authorities can help!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21st, 2010 09:17 pm |
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sharkfin 3T WIS
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Jeep99dad wrote:it's shame to see such scammers in our hobby! Always sad to see but I guess they are everywhere! Sorry it happened to you, hope the authorities can help! ya, its a shame. I'm sure they have mulitple alias's too and are among us, waiting to pounce on an opportunity as their posts accumulate to disguise any newbie suspicions. I just hope to make this particular scammer more public, and has since emailed me to mock me and validate his refusal to pay back anything. :( Hoping the system will prevail, and see some justice. So ATTENTION kids, don't do as I did, no matter the temptation. Not worth it. Thanks. Dave
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21st, 2010 09:50 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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sorry to hear of your misfortune but rule #1 is never buy from someone insisting on cash or a bank transfer...rule #2 if it sounds too good to be true it isn't...$350. for a Doxa 5000T???...that's why we have specific rules before anyone can post on the 3T sales forum and it has worked to the point other forums are following our lead,,,,
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22nd, 2010 06:40 am |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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You have his name and address... Now, California is far away but you can allways have some vacations there and pay him a hard visit... What else?
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22nd, 2010 10:22 am |
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hucky 3T WIS 
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How far is this addy from Camino Pepita, in Menifee 92584? I have a House there and will drop by next time Im there? Your call Huck
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22nd, 2010 10:24 am |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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Feel bad for you, Dave. Hard-earned money lost. The bright side is the scammer could have asked for slightly more (i.e. $500) from you for the Doxa and you would have lost much more than just the $350 and bank charges. What goes around, comes around. That scammer will have his just desserts, amigo.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22nd, 2010 12:39 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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hucky wrote:How far is this addy from Camino Pepita, in Menifee 92584? I have a House there and will drop by next time Im there? Your call Yeah Huck, snap his sorry wrist. Too bad I can't be there... I would enjoy itmuppet.gif
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22nd, 2010 03:08 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Look at that guys! http://forums.undergroundhiphop.com/readpost.asp?Forum=MCAudio&Whichpage=1&QuestionID=35835 Found it by googleling the scamer's name...Interesting. the sucker is living in DEL NORTE California in fact...
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22nd, 2010 04:51 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Ok, this don't look good...Update from the same guy in my last post. The scamer seems to run all over kind of forums to make some cash. Allways asking for amounts under 400$, knowing that the CA state police will not take it further for so little amounts. So my question is: Why bothering of the CA "limit amount" laws when he is in Philippines? Or he may want to come back to the states regulary. http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5021498-Deal-Gone-Wrong-Scam-Alert&s=28f38145e97c0bbb59d83254f9f73687 update. Alexander Daniel Voorhies is 38 years old, and is a causasian male. He has an address in california but does not live there. He is currently living in the phillipines. DO NOT BUY FROM HIM!!! If you send him money you will never see it again. He has attempted to scam under my username on at least one other music forum.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22nd, 2010 05:25 pm |
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sharkfin 3T WIS
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Got some leads but its not easy as with two countries and this is low priority to the law. Banks won't freeze anything as transactions complete, until the FBI step in. This scammer has been reading my posts and emailed me, to mock me even commented on my last posted pic. He's also ticked off I'm outing him on all the forums. The scumbag will get whats coming. Also, read he has an address in CA and may be possibly living out of the country. ??? But if you look at the time/dates of posts, its timeframe is odd, not sure how valid it appears. http://forums.undergroundhiphop.com/readpost.asp?Forum=MCAudio&Whichpage=1&QuestionID=35835 http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5021498-Deal-Gone-Wrong-Scam-Alert But found a pic, from Davis High school, Davis,CA.(1982-1986) Alexander Voorhies  I've had some odd posters who try to insinuate call out my intentions and try to discredit my post. Makes me think they're related to the scammer in some way. This was on WUS and Watchnet. Don't expect to get my money, but I will out this guy all over the net because he's a dirtbag. I didn't want to drag this dirty laundry over here. My apologies to all. Dave. Last edited on Wed Sep 22nd, 2010 05:40 pm by sharkfin |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22nd, 2010 05:36 pm |
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sharkfin 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote:sorry to hear of your misfortune but rule #1 is never buy from someone insisting on cash or a bank transfer...rule #2 if it sounds too good to be true it isn't...$350. for a Doxa 5000T???...that's why we have specific rules before anyone can post on the 3T sales forum and it has worked to the point other forums are following our lead,,,, Yes, I know, I feel stupid, and was in a weak, poor judgment moment. Who would figure a scammer would give a legit id/bank info to scam. But I'm not even sure if that might even be fake too. :( An expensive mistake, hoping others can learn from my stupidity.
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