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 Posted: Tue May 4th, 2010 05:34 pm
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Steve Laughlin wrote:
The caseback would be stainless steel so there is less skin contact on the bronze, some people might be allergic to some of the alloys.

If mine turns green in some places.... cool, that is why it is unique.

as for the strength, I am not sure of it's hardness number, it is a combination of Alloys. My stainless watches also scratch and dent when they take an impact.


Bronze is mainly made of copper and tin or can be added aluminium for marine products. Anyway, made of metals much softer than steel and even more than stainless steel 316 for exemple. I didn't mean that SS cases are not getting scratched or dinged: Offcourse they do but the bronze will be, at earlyer stress stage.

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I believe this alloy is bronze-aluminium-iron-nickel. This special alloy is used on parts of naval ships.

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From what I found: There is the leaded naval bronze: Sn=6.0%, Pb=1.5%, Zn=4.5%, Cu=88%(Sn for tin,Pb for lead,Zn for zinc, Cu for copper) and the "non leaded bronze" with less lead. This alloy is called in fact Naval Brass or C46400. Here's a data sheet:http://www.atlasbronze.com/C46400_product_sheet.html

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Hammerfjord wrote: From what I found: There is the leaded naval bronze: Sn=6.0%, Pb=1.5%, Zn=4.5%, Cu=88%(Sn for tin,Pb for lead,Zn for zinc, Cu for copper) and the "non leaded bronze" with less lead. This alloy is called in fact Naval Brass or C46400. Here's a data sheet:http://www.atlasbronze.com/C46400_product_sheet.html
I polished allot of that brass back in my day in the US Navy.

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Hammerfjord wrote:
From what I found: There is the leaded naval bronze: Sn=6.0%, Pb=1.5%, Zn=4.5%, Cu=88%(Sn for tin,Pb for lead,Zn for zinc, Cu for copper) and the "non leaded bronze" with less lead. This alloy is called in fact Naval Brass or C46400. Here's a data sheet:http://www.atlasbronze.com/C46400_product_sheet.html

Dude, this particular alloy is made for the watch case it is not C46400 and will not contain lead. I don't think you will find the alloy combo online for the watch cases.

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Steve,
This is a great idea for the Moray. I love the design and as you know recently purchased to from you. I am in with the Bronze the cleaner the dial the better.

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As Steve stated the bronze used for watch cases is nothing like the brass or bronze that contains lead...lead is poisonus and this bronze is specially formulated for watch cases...it is called "bronze special alloy UNI5275" and is currently used by Anomino Watch Co. at a much greater cost than what Steve has mentioned for this special Bronze eta Moray!...hand6.gif

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I had a bronze Anonimo Polluce and the changing patina is unique into itself.  It has a great feel to it and is truly a special case.  If the material spec is the same as the Ano ...I might be very tempted. Drool_27.gif

 

Great idea and please keep us posted on your progress moving forward.

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I think this is a great idea too.

I also wonder about the availability of the bronze bezel. Could this be an option for steel or PVD-cased Morays to create a dual-tone look?

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SBD wrote: I think this is a great idea too.

I also wonder about the availability of the bronze bezel. Could this be an option for steel or PVD-cased Morays to create a dual-tone look?

+1, to keep the price low.

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This is a wonderful idea and looks like a unique project, with low production numbers.

Steve, I am assuming buckles will be same material, too, right? Would you sell an extra buckle (of same to different design) to each buyer?

Brown case, brown dial, distressed brown strap.....picturing this in my mind already. my love.gif

I agree with Froschd.....the cleaner the dial, the better IMHO.

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kerosene wrote:
SBD wrote: I think this is a great idea too.

I also wonder about the availability of the bronze bezel. Could this be an option for steel or PVD-cased Morays to create a dual-tone look?

+1, to keep the price low.


I talked to Ralf this morning, and the alloy we will use is the UNI5275

we will also be making steel Morays in the future, with the new Miyota 9015 and competitive pricing with the sub $500 watches. I will show these on a separate thread soon.

The price for the Bronze watch is not set yet, but the bronze is not like the steel watches and the price can't compete with them.

The bronze morays can probably be produced quicker than the steel ones because we won't have to wait on the new Miyota movements or the bulk order of cases to be finished, since each bronze case has to be made individually.

This is a special project for anyone interested, and we do not need a minimum order to make the watches.

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