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 Posted: Wed Aug 10th, 2011 06:26 pm
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Here's the stuff... This is my only Seiko and since I'm a Swiss/German-made usual buyer, I thought that for my first Seiko I should choose something really made in Japan and from the starting great range.
Now , I had it for maybe a year, don't remember exactly...
Anyway: It came out from the safe some days ago for a usual 1 day use as I rotate my watches. Normal day, normal wear...
No bing, no bang...
Putting it back in the box: WTF??? The Seiko logo had fell off, leaving apparent 2 small holes in the dialmistake.gif
Here's the pics, it sits right on the hands...Priceless...:


Well, I started to work on my own watches lately and I thought that I should give it a try instead of giving it to my watch-maker or sending the watch to Japan and get it back in maybe...Weeks and weeks??? Who knows...
Opening the case-back(4 screws tighten with loctite...) I found out that they wasn't paying loctite in Japan as they been more that generous...
Look the traces around the case...Grrr...Without the exact right screw-driver and a firm hand, I would have damage the screws as they was sitting hard big time...

Here, ready to screw off one of the 2 clamps holding the movement and ring: Constating that the screw been a bit over-tighten and slightly damaged as you can see...
Got it out without big trouble with offcourse the right screwdriver size...

The dial looks like that:

As you could see, the logo is holding there with 2 small feet:

2 very small points of glue in the dial holes and setting back the logo in place...Don't shake!subtlelaugh.gif
Here it's back on track and drying for a while before remounting...

Been on the gym and screwed the all thing together few hours after: Good as new, no bad marks on screws, no crap under the glass...As new.
Sorry for the bad pictures but my working light is not what I use for pictures usually...
Anyway: A bit bitter on Seiko, specially for this kind of model who should be from upper shelf. Still glad that I could do the whole stuff myself...

Thanks for looking!

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 Posted: Wed Aug 10th, 2011 09:18 pm
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Well William...That has to be one of the weirdest things I've ever seen crap.gif...and would certainly have had me muttering WTF!!!

Now, being that you are way up there in Arctic Norway, any chance that your "safe" is a 6' x 6' block of solid ice with an advanced electronic locking system attached to it?  Maybe the watch experienced 30° below zero and whatever adhesive was holding that Seiko logo on couldn't take the extreme temperatures!dog smile.gif

All joking aside, I would have been as surprised as you seeing such a thing. 

Very nice work and recovery though in getting everything disassembled, rebonded, cleaned, and reassembled. thumbsup.gif I don't think I would have attempted it, but I'm getting a little more adventurous these days.  That overtightened screw holding the movement and ring seems to indicate that someone at Seiko got into a bit of a hurry during the original assembly.  hmmm...

Again, nice recovery and looks good as new!

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Thanks Chris! Well, hell yeah, I had big eyes when I saw that.
If I would have drop this watch, I would maybe understand somehow, even it should not happen...But NO: I baby-sitted this watch all way long since I had it.
No trace of earlier glue on the dial or the "Seiko" part, so how did they fix it at first place is a mystery to me: Look on the link Jeff posted, at 3:31 , the guy put the very same Seiko logo with 2 feets inside the dial of an Ananta Spring-Drive...Nothing special there, no glue is applied and it just sit in the dial....

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http://www.timetechtalk.com/forum1/23553.html

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 Posted: Wed Aug 10th, 2011 11:26 pm
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Pretty nice repair job, William, I enjoyed your pictoral and commentary on it..

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Sad to hear your problem, Sheriff. But I take my hats off to you. I wouldn't have the skill nor the patience to do what you did. I'd end up using a jackhammer to screw those nuts and bolts in place.

A Seiko logo falling off is not impossible. 2 of my lower end Seiko BFS had their logos fall and the only thing I could see was that these 2 watches were hardly ever worn. To this day they are still asleep and in hibernation.

Glad you had the problem fixed

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 Posted: Thu Aug 11th, 2011 12:36 pm
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Goofy Seiko logo just popped off like an Invicta!! Nice job getting in there and making the fix.

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 Posted: Thu Aug 11th, 2011 01:18 pm
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Thanks guys! Yes Marc, like an Invicta...
Seiko should really go further and start a new system for that because when they are doing exactly the same to them top-range Spring-Drive who cost the shirt, it's kind of deceiving...

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Good job, William!  Like you, I also tinker with my watches. Quite satisfying when the job turns out right; quite devastating when it doesn't.....but then you just keep quiet about it!subtlelaugh.gif
I am amazed at the shoddy workmanship on that higher end piece.....

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Graham wrote:
Good job, William!  Like you, I also tinker with my watches. Quite satisfying when the job turns out right; quite devastating when it doesn't.....but then you just keep quiet about it!subtlelaugh.gif
I am amazed at the shoddy workmanship on that higher end piece.....


Thanks Graham! I started to put my hands inside watches the 2-3 last weeks in fact: After my watch-maker and friend, invited me for 1 hour training in his workshop. I borrowed tools from him and bought some also...
Still no incident but it might come. I´m used of precision work and I like it...
In fact, I have very steady hands(when I don't drink coffee) and I could surely circumcise a cockroach with a Bowie knife
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 Posted: Fri Aug 12th, 2011 05:19 pm
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Hammerfjord wrote:
Graham wrote:
Good job, William!  Like you, I also tinker with my watches. Quite satisfying when the job turns out right; quite devastating when it doesn't.....but then you just keep quiet about it!subtlelaugh.gif
I am amazed at the shoddy workmanship on that higher end piece.....


Thanks Graham! I started to put my hands inside watches the 2-3 last weeks in fact: After my watch-maker and friend, invited me for 1 hour training in his workshop. I borrowed tools from him and bought some also...
Still no incident but it might come. I´m used of precision work and I like it...
In fact, I have very steady hands(when I don't drink coffee) and I could surely circumcise a cockroach with a Bowie knife
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 Posted: Sat Aug 13th, 2011 05:44 am
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You are a Jack of all trades Will...adding watchmaking to those skills is a big + Buddy!ThumbsUp02.gif

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Unfortunate that it happened, but i'm Very impressed with your work... Nice job Will..

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