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oagaspar Site Founder 
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Pretty Important Read for any WIS  Uses of the Term Swiss,Swiss Made,and Swiss Movement,a General Overview by the Federation of the Swiss Watch Industry!!!!  http://www.fhs.ch/en/swissm.php |
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MikeD 3T WIS 
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CG has been saying "entirely Swiss made" a lot lately. I'm almost sure many of those Invictas are not entirely Swiss made considering they use Swiss Parts Movements, but I could be wrong. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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MikeD wrote: Hey Mike.....I have heard it said a few times myself...but We all know Invictas are not All Swiss...LOL ! A few companies hold that distinction Like Patek,Breuget,etc.,even Jean Marcel is 100% Swiss..meaning every component in the Watch is made in Switzerland including all assembly taking Place There CG has been saying "entirely Swiss made" a lot lately. I'm almost sure many of those Invictas are not entirely Swiss made considering they use Swiss Parts Movements, but I could be wrong. |
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KenC Admin 
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O.A. Gaspar wrote: Pretty Important Read for any WIS ! Uses of the Term Swis,Swiss Made,and Swiss Movement hehehe..........when I posted that on the WUS German Forum oh-so-many months ago,, I was told to go fly a kite, and that they didn't need to be lectured to about Swiss watches...........Oh yes they did!!!:D:D:D |
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KenC Admin
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MikeD wrote: CG has been saying "entirely Swiss made" a lot lately. I'm almost sure many of those Invictas are not entirely Swiss made considering they use Swiss Parts Movements, but I could be wrong. Excuse me! Are you trying to say that CG would say something that he knew was less than 100% truthful?:shock: WOW! hard to believe...........a man of his integrity. It is simply baffling! |
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Kurt Adler 3T WIS 
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It's a great site Oscar! I've had it under my "Favorites" for quite some time now. It definatley has some good info. for the new watch enthusiast to the true old-timer WIS!! I refer to it all the time!! Thanks for the post my friend! K |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Kurt Adler wrote: Kurt it is Guys like you that make this place a nice place to visit You know I am extremely happy to have you on Board,Buddy  It's a great site Oscar! I've had it under my "Favorites" for quite some time now. It definatley has some good info. for the new watch enthusiast to the true old-timer WIS!! I refer to it all the time!! Thanks for the post my friend! K |
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Gregger 3T WIS 
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Thanks for the link Oscar....Us newer guys need to study to catch up with the rest! |
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natgas Guest
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Thanks O! It's nice to know what is and isn't without having to wade through most crap that is irrelevant! and Ken, I can't imagine those boys giving you a hard time!!!:shock: |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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For Those Who Missed this the 1st Time Around in January  |
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sandpebble711 3T WIS
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Awsome Oscar, look forward posting and talking about all the new watches out there :dude: |
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IW 3T WIS 
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Thought I'd post a little something you may find interesting. Regardless of the laws of the Swiss for 'marking of watches', the only thing that matters in the USA is what the CBP thinks (Customs and Border Protection). Attached is a link to a 16 page document on the proper marking and classification of watches and clocks. If you think they don't take this stuff seriously, guess again. Last year I had 100 pieces of Stovard Jurgenson time pieces denied entry into the US because the cases weren't marked properly. Take a look. . . http://www.cbp.gov/linkhandler/cgov/toolbox/legal/informed_compliance_pubs/icp055.ctt/icp055.pdf Thanks- Marc |
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James Haury 3T WIS
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I have a Movado watch that says swiss Movado Quartz at the bottom of the dial. It also has Movado Serial # swiss on the caseback. Movado is on top. Is it Genuine? |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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James Haury wrote: Good question James...the Movado Museum is a Highly Replicated Timepiece but there are so many versions of that model it's hard to tell unless you take the caseback off !...I know mine says Swiss Made at the 6 and also on the back..but no mention of Quartz anywhere  ...I will take a macro close-up of the Dial and Caseback and post it for you to compare,Buddy hand6.gif I have a Movado watch that says swiss Movado Quartz at the bottom of the dial. It also has Movado Serial # swiss on the caseback. Movado is on top. Is it Genuine? |
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RIKMEISTER 3T WIS 
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you guys are incorrect he means they were made by a swiss maid. he uses homonyms. you are not taking the clear meaning of it. |
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James Haury 3T WIS
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While there are probably swiss women in the swiss watch industry ,i would not care if my swiss watch was made by a male swiss octogenarian as long as it looks good and keeps good time. What I want from a swiss maiden is that she should quicken my pulse by her mere presence and it would be very nice if she fell madly in love with me.I must add however that from my observations in Bohemian restaurants that Slovak women are well worth czeching out.:cool: Last edited on Mon Nov 27th, 2006 09:55 am by James Haury |
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amwilliams9 3T WIS
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Maybe I'm not clear when I read that Invicta watches that state "Swiss Made" on the dial at the 6 position are not Swiss watches. Could someone explain this to me? Please! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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amwilliams9 wrote: No one said they weren't Swiss Made but they are not 100% Swiss Made which means all components are made in Switzerland including final assembly and inspection ....the difference is Swiss Made means 52% of the cost to manufacture is in Switzerland including final assembly and inspection which could mean the other 48% is Asian as I am not aware of any Invicta that would qualify to be called 100% Swiss Made?... I'm assuming you read the link to what Swiss Made means according to the Swiss Federation in the 1st posthand6.gif Maybe I'm not clear when I read that Invicta watches that state "Swiss Made" on the dial at the 6 position are not Swiss watches. Could someone explain this to me? Please! |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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amwilliams9 wrote: Maybe I'm not clear when I read that Invicta watches that state "Swiss Made" on the dial at the 6 position are not Swiss watches. Could someone explain this to me? Please! Great question and welcome to 3T!! I was delighted to see you meteorite dial watch yesterday. Very nice indeed. I trust you'll enjoy your visits with us and will share you experiences with other WIS. I don't see anything in the thread which states Invictas marked "Swiss Made" are not Swiss Made. Per the legal guidelines set forth I am certain if an Invicta dial is marked "Swiss Made" at the 6:00 positon, then it meets the legal requirements for the use of this marking. O is dinstguishing between 100% Swiss Made and the legal qualifications for Swiss Made markings in his previous post. Having said that it seems there is reference to certain watch selling personalities misspeaking in the past as this thread is quite old. Unfortunatley this still occurs and certainly after being pawned off as misspeaking or an error for such a long while, one must assume the so called errors are nothing more than hype in the effort to sell a watch. I guess if that is your job you do it to the best of your ability and ethics be damned. As for the Swiss markings we all have watches with a variety of markings. If you read the attached article you wil note that watches marked "Swiss Movt" at 6:00 are not in regulatory compliance as "Swiss Movement" is the stated correct marking. I own Invictas (and other brands) marked "Swiss Movt". So what does this mean?? I don't really give a rip as the watches were great values imho. This is always a topic which appears and reappears. The regulations are ever evolving and open to interpretation it seems. For me the dinstinction is less important unless the watch is being represented as something it is not and is being priced in line with a misrepresentation. Once again, welcome to 3T and glad you found us. I am looking forward to seeing more of your collection in the future!! |
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amwilliams9 3T WIS
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Thanks for the warm welcome, and clarification on "Swiss Made". You all seem to have a nice forum here and I will visit more often. Thank you for the warm welcome again. |
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