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Today I also bothered the designer a bit, I guess they all will be lucky when I am back in Germany;)

This is what I think the Megalodon could be: a 47mm case diameter and 47mm or 49mm bezel and case form that is also wearable on my skinny wrists.
 The inspiration for the dial was the open mouth of a shark and can get a lot of lume,  my thin number design is not best for thick lume.
Her we would have enough space.
 A  thick bracelet will follow 
But what shall I write let me know what you think hope we can have the watch in january.









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Cool one Ralf. You are a man of many ideas. Are you able to use lumibrite or Seiko 6R15 movements?

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I like the first and last pic's. Not sure if I like the big markers....maybe a tad smaller......but it looks like a winner  hand6.gif

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The Moray sample dials have Japanese lume.

 Seiko does not sell their 6R15 but maybe I can get some Eta 2824

Ventura wrote:
Cool one Ralf. You are a man of many ideas. Are you able to use lumibrite or Seiko 6R15 movements?

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LOVE the dail design. Don't you dare touch it ;) .

I like bezel #1 because the big notches compliment the big markers, and I also like bezel #3 ... just because I like it :P

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Hmmm, I like it well enough but here is my .02.

-Use bezel style from photo 3

-Use bezel insert from photo 2 (as you have guessed I like bezel inserts)

-I like the markers but decrease their size and add minute markers, that may take away from the sharks teeth though:?.  Maybe just add 3 minute markers between every tooth.

-Have an ETA 2824 as an option

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BENARUS wrote:











This look great! ThumbsUp02.gif

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I'm liking where this one is heading! hearteyes.gif

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 #2  is a  Winner IMO

 

 

 

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Wow, this bezel #1 looks like great!
But the dial design looks very similar to the
Citizen Titanium EcoDrive Divers Watch 233993So I think it should differentiate itself more.



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Ralf,

I like the last image in the series.  Very nice bezel.

You are one busy, ambitious man!

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BENARUS wrote:



I cannot express how much this watch speaks to me. If somehow the bezel could be lumed too that would be amazing. Also a 2824 movement option would be awesome. Again, please make this one.

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yahoo.gifI also like #1 and #4.yahoo.gif  You are a busy man.  A 2824 option would be good But for me it would probably put it out of my budget right now.  Put me down for one and will take ser no. 5yahoo.gifyahoo.gifyahoo.gif

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awesome. I remember 2 years ago thinking a Seiko SKX007 was a big watch, and I thought 22mm lugs was as big as I should go. I have a 6.5 inch wrist and am not afraid of this monster. I may need to hit the gym though, the megalodon is inspiring me to lift weights again. haha!

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Yes, number 1 would be my choice, luminous bezel would make the watch.

Sign me up! ThumbsUp02.gif 

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watchu2 wrote:
Yes, number 1 would be my choice, luminous bezel would make the watch.

Sign me up! ThumbsUp02.gif 

I completely agree.  The dial is spectacular, but that bezel with luminous marking would really make this one EPIC!

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wow...a 47mm or 49mm...very very interesting...even the sounds of 'Megalodon' already sounds gigantic...

interested to know more.....

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Megalodon : MEG-a-la-don; meaning "big tooth", was a giant shark that lived in prehistoric times. The oldest remains of this species found are about 18 million years old. Megalodon could grow to more than 60 ft long and is also quite possibly the largest shark ever to have lived.

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My wrist is 7.5", yet I am overall only 5'7" 170 lbs.  Did a lot of gymnastics, swimming and surfing.  Megladon will eat the Seiko Black Monster and spit it out for breakfast.

I can't believe that Ralf is already into his 4th watch design.  47mm is a good starting point for a big watch....

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I keep coming back to look at this. This is one of the most handsome modern designs I have seen. I think it has the potential to be the most popular and quickest selling watch in the line to date.

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I like the first sample a lot. If you make that 47mm and a swiss movement, Im in !!!ThumbsUp02.gif

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My ideas:
100 pcs of this case
You can choose your bezel and the crown will match to the bezel like on the drawing.
I will check the price for eta, but I guess with eta it will be about $100 more
Maybe we split  50 dials like  the drawing and 50 in a 4 numbers style e.g. like the Sea Devil and in a dark blue grey brushed color
Hands like drawing
double domed sapphire
500m
 Bezel 1 shall be luminous but we are still checking how to do best.A sapphire bezel inlay is very expensive, maybe a acrylic inlay or filled with enamel.
Bezel 2 gets a black   inlay with numbers and markers like the Sea Devil
Bezel 3 will stay like it is.
A thick bracelet is needed please make some style suggestions

 And Steve what about a MEGALODON case back;)

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WOW!

Gotta say that is crazy!  I'd go with 47mm, the first bezel and I agree with one of the post about slightly smaller markers. And go nuts with a caseback design!  As for the 2824, the current economy needs to be considered before you have a $1000 watch. Maybe the Selitta SW-200 if the price break is better?

We said the Megalodon needed to be a big watch -- you are on the right track.  Good job! ThumbsUp02.gif

Cheers

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Just saw this post after I posted mine! If the ETA is only $100 more to the cost, then go for it! Make ETA based watches while you still can!

BENARUS wrote:
My ideas:
100 pcs of this case
You can choose your bezel and the crown will match to the bezel like on the drawing.
I will check the price for eta, but I guess with eta it will be about $100 more
Maybe we split  50 dials like  the drawing and 50 in a 4 numbers style e.g. like the Sea Devil and in a dark blue grey brushed color
Hands like drawing
double domed sapphire
500m
 Bezel 1 shall be luminous but we are still checking how to do best.A sapphire bezel inlay is very expensive, maybe a acrylic inlay or filled with enamel.
Bezel 2 gets a black   inlay with numbers and markers like the Sea Devil
Bezel 3 will stay like it is.
A thick bracelet is needed please make some style suggestions

 And Steve what about a MEGALODON case back;)

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ambassadeur wrote: BENARUS wrote:











This look great! ThumbsUp02.gif

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I also love this look!

Ralf.... not sure what you think of this type of bracelet but this is my NIXON 42-20...



NIXON uses the same bracelet style on the 42-20 (42 mm) and also the 51-30 (51 mm) and it carries the weight of a big watch really well.

I'm not a bracelet fan at all but I love this one.  It's very comfortable and looks a bit different from all the others out there at the moment.







Cheers!

PS... I love the name MEGALODON!

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Ryan, you really think the markers are to big??
It is named MEGALODON and not mouse tooth
:D
 Not the best attempt of a night view




CRO wrote: WOW!

Gotta say that is crazy!  I'd go with 47mm, the first bezel and I agree with one of the post about slightly smaller markers. And go nuts with a caseback design!  As for the 2824, the current economy needs to be considered before you have a $1000 watch. Maybe the Selitta SW-200 if the price break is better?

We said the Megalodon needed to be a big watch -- you are on the right track.  Good job! ThumbsUp02.gif

Cheers

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For the Nixon bracelet,I like the style but  I also  think the links are to long, that makes it more uncomfortable imo

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With the moray on order and loving LARGE watches, I am ready to send down payment for this...



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This look great! ThumbsUp02.gif

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Looks Awesome Ralf!...the markers remind me of sharks teeth....#1 bezel or the last one for me...47-49mm,500m and preferably a LE version with a eta engine....very cool hand6.gif

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I really like the first drawing and bezel alot.  It seems like the ideas for colors and the bracelet are going in the right direction.  I'm curious about one thing that might seem trivial, not sure how many really care, but what about a 1000m depth rating.  Is this possible?

Your first two watches had this rating, and it seems fitting for one called Megladon.  Everything about it is big, robust and powerfull.  The ultimate predator of the deep.  To me 1000m puts it in it's own class were it belongs.  Or maybe I'm off the deep end on this one;)

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Don't touch that dial perfect perfect.gif I like the #1 bezel, and the last one. I'm not sure about the lugs they probably work great with a bracelet, but I think it would look strange with a strap. My advice would be to  refine the lugs, similar to the black diamond. I said similar not copy.:)toon1.gif ThumbsUp02.gif Either way I want one it must have an ETA.yourock.gif






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I know how everyone feel about renalto but the bracelet on the T-rex is huge and beefy so maybe something like that might look good.

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Sure 1000m would be cool, but this is a big watch with a big glass and for 1000m it has to be quite thick in this diameter and the glass is a expensive part.
Also the case has to be thicker than.
1000m is cool but unnecessary imo, my aim is offering reliable watches. If we decide for a Eta and also  1000m we come in a area where some have to pass.
Even with ETA  I want to try to keep it max $500 so I think 500m is enough $1 for each meter.



moresnowdays wrote: I really like the first drawing and bezel alot.  It seems like the ideas for colors and the bracelet are going in the right direction.  I'm curious about one thing that might seem trivial, not sure how many really care, but what about a 1000m depth rating.  Is this possible?

Your first two watches had this rating, and it seems fitting for one called Megladon.  Everything about it is big, robust and powerfull.  The ultimate predator of the deep.  To me 1000m puts it in it's own class were it belongs.  Or maybe I'm off the deep end on this one;)

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BENARUS wrote: Sure 1000m would be cool, but this is a big watch with a big glass and for 1000m it has to be quite thick in this diameter and the glass is a expensive part.
Also the case has to be thicker than.
1000m is cool but unnecessary imo, my aim is offering reliable watches. If we decide for a Eta and also  1000m we come in a area where some have to pass.
Even with ETA  I want to try to keep it max $500 so I think 500m is enough $1 for each meter.



moresnowdays wrote: I really like the first drawing and bezel alot.  It seems like the ideas for colors and the bracelet are going in the right direction.  I'm curious about one thing that might seem trivial, not sure how many really care, but what about a 1000m depth rating.  Is this possible?

Your first two watches had this rating, and it seems fitting for one called Megladon.  Everything about it is big, robust and powerfull.  The ultimate predator of the deep.  To me 1000m puts it in it's own class were it belongs.  Or maybe I'm off the deep end on this one;)


I would agree, Ralf. You have really got my attention with this beast!!:D

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BENARUS wrote: Sure 1000m would be cool, but this is a big watch with a big glass and for 1000m it has to be quite thick in this diameter and the glass is a expensive part.
Also the case has to be thicker than.
1000m is cool but unnecessary imo, my aim is offering reliable watches. If we decide for a Eta and also  1000m we come in a area where some have to pass.
Even with ETA  I want to try to keep it max $500 so I think 500m is enough $1 for each meter.




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You're correct this is going to be a large watch, 500m is about right especially a human being is not going pass on or about 120m anyway, and for some reason you do, you're not going to be worrying about any watch  subtlelaugh.gif  I leave that to the pro diver.:) JMHOmistake.gif

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ralf,

They seem lightly large and round at the base near the bezel. Maybe sharpen them up a little. It's weird but I see almost a flower design, or pedal design when I look at the markers.  And with the black dial the "BENARUS" could be in blood red, hmmm?





Maybe something like that? I really suck at Photoshop.

 

BENARUS wrote:


Ryan, you really think the markers are to big??
It is named MEGALODON and not mouse tooth
:D
 Not the best attempt of a night view




CRO wrote: WOW!

Gotta say that is crazy!  I'd go with 47mm, the first bezel and I agree with one of the post about slightly smaller markers. And go nuts with a caseback design!  As for the 2824, the current economy needs to be considered before you have a $1000 watch. Maybe the Selitta SW-200 if the price break is better?

We said the Megalodon needed to be a big watch -- you are on the right track.  Good job! ThumbsUp02.gif

Cheers

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you mean more like a heart than a flower?;)

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I really like the markers just the way Ralf originally designed them. They certainly looked like a tooth to me :) .

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me too, I like the agressive size of the markers, it fits with the case size. but if they were raised off the dial a bit, that would be cool adding dimension to the dial and visually the "teeth" would pop a bit.

I am going to concept a few case backs for Ralf and we will share them soon. I am thinking either a detailed fossil tooth, the whole jaws (bones) or the whole shark, which no longer exists (that is why I like the bones ideas better) what do you guys think? any other ideas?

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Steve...I would like to see a rendition of the entire jaw as the inner dial or chapter ring with teeth as markers...all lumed of course...sounds like a awesome idea! yahoo.gif

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oagaspar wrote: Steve...I would like to see a rendition of the entire jaw as the inner dial or chapter ring with teeth as markers...all lumed of course...sounds like a awesome idea! yahoo.gif
I was thinking the same thing ThumbsUp02.gif Gumba and I are in same wave link or esp.cool10.gifyahoo.gif

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Ralf I like #1 bezel and the dial set up is awesome looking.  Also that (nixion) bracelet looks kewl to.  what ever you do I'm in......ThumbsUp02.gif 

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I think the caseback idea is great, maybe the whole jaw like the pic with everyone standing in it, minus the people of course.

Maybe make Benarus luminous instead of red? Or red 500m and Benarus with red second hand like the black dial Sea Devil would be cool, a little blood in the water so to speak. :shock::P

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Or "Megalodon" in blood red above the 6.



 

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I think the caseback idea is great, maybe the whole jaw like the pic with everyone standing in it, minus the people of course.

Maybe make Benarus luminous instead of red? Or red 500m and Benarus with red second hand like the black dial Sea Devil would be cool, a little blood in the water so to speak. :shock::P

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Ok, here is my ideas: dark steel dial, raised ring with teeth hour marks, BENARUS and 500m marks to be consistant with the other models, MEGALODON name should be on the back, in the middle inside the JAWS drawing, which I will work on next.

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Steve that looks great. :) That dial background reminds me of a Pam dial I was checking out this past week. Sweet! ;)

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Steve Laughlin wrote: Ok, here is my ideas: dark steel dial, raised ring with teeth hour marks, BENARUS and 500m marks to be consistant with the other models, MEGALODON name should be on the back, in the middle inside the JAWS drawing, which I will work on next.


 

Steve I like it, I think it looks........perfect.gif

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The raised markers definately add to the teeth look.ThumbsUp02.gif

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DING! DING! DING! We have a WINNER... Love the contrast between the Dark steel dial and the Black chapter accent. deposit ready and waiting. Great job Steve!



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Ok, here is my ideas: dark steel dial, raised ring with teeth hour marks, BENARUS and 500m marks to be consistant with the other models, MEGALODON name should be on the back, in the middle inside the JAWS drawing, which I will work on next.

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Steve

I like the idea of the big case, and look forward to your next amazing case back design.

The only comment I have is that if all of the indices / markers are the same size, it could be difficult or confusing to tell time particularly when the lume is brite in the middle of the night... usually the 12 o'clock position should be bigger or distinct. 

This morning getting up to go skiing, and I looked over at the Black Monster, and it took a few glances to figure out the time... I had to rotate the watch, and thumb the crown to figure out which way was up.

Jim

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It looks like I'm in the minority on this one, but I don't care for those indices at all.  Looks like a Benarus I'll have to pass on...:(

Like someone posted too much like a Citizen and I really don't care for that one.

 

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Looks awesome the way it is Steve and completely unique! perfect.gif

 

 

The Megalodon Rocks! woohoo.gif





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I would buy this immediately perfect.gif

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I assume it would have to be 26mm at the lugs?!?

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The drawing is made with 24mm, and I guess it looks fine.
You have much more strap options than, and the lugs are more massive
 

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I would like 24mm so I don't have to buy more new straps!! I can use my growing collection of 24mm on it!

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I remember reading you guys like 24mm... That is cool! I like the thick lug thing. Helps offset the strap size.

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Steve Laughlin wrote: Ok, here is my ideas: dark steel dial, raised ring with teeth hour marks, BENARUS and 500m marks to be consistant with the other models, MEGALODON name should be on the back, in the middle inside the JAWS drawing, which I will work on next.


Love it!!! Gives the dial depth with the two different colors...hand6.gif

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Steve...you are one hack of talent...I love that Megalodon....simply awesome....

I do agree to have the lugs at 24mm...it will make the watch looked bigger...

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Steve Laughlin wrote: Ok, here is my ideas: dark steel dial, raised ring with teeth hour marks, BENARUS and 500m marks to be consistant with the other models, MEGALODON name should be on the back, in the middle inside the JAWS drawing, which I will work on next.

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!

MEGALODON is becoming a reality

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Fantastic... if this stays on course there is no way I can resist!!toon1.gif Well done Ralf, Steve and all those who have been active in sharing their thoughts.Thumbsup3.gif

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PVD version would be incredible too.

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 Megalodon :)
















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Nice I likey, the raised markers do make it look more like teeth.  nice job allThumbsup3.gif

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The dial face would look great again with the same type of dial face (not necessarily blue) that was used on the Barracuda.

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teddyhanna wrote: Steve Laughlin wrote: Ok, here is my ideas: dark steel dial, raised ring with teeth hour marks, BENARUS and 500m marks to be consistant with the other models, MEGALODON name should be on the back, in the middle inside the JAWS drawing, which I will work on next.


 

Steve I like it, I think it looks........perfect.gif


Yea, this design is great!
I think it will look better with the markings on the bezel changed to white or silver or grey or something... green isn't suitable there.

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what about maybe even trying that black lume in the middle instead of just dark steel. i think it would give it a cool contrast at night. just a curious suggestion.

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The green should be lume, thats why it is so green.
 I like the black lume dial idea.
 I have played a bit with the second bezel, no high quality though sorry.
And we will check with the dial company whether the dial can be made with a raised dial ring





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NICE! here are some case back ideas...








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I really like the first one but with only the LE number instead of 4 words

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BENARUS wrote: I really like the first one but with only the LE number instead of 4 words

I agree ralf I like the first one as well.  Nice Job again steve.ThumbsUp02.gif

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This is going to be a very cool watch...... I have one thought regarding the hands. Does anyone think the outline should be black instead of the SS??? or maybe an orange hand. Seems with the massive markers that they may get lost in the lume. Might need a little contrast.......thoughts???

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Tony Duronio wrote:  

 

This is going to be a very cool watch...... I have one thought regarding the hands. Does anyone think the outline should be black instead of the SS??? or maybe an orange hand. Seems with the massive markers that they may get lost in the lume. Might need a little contrast.......thoughts???

I believe you are right tony, they do seem to get a little lost with the big markers.

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Yes, I agree on the first case back. 

I know I am probably the only one but I like the #2 bezel best, maybe offer both..

Ralf, are you considering any different dial ideas on this one?

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I like the edge of #2 also, and I am ok if it is not lume. Lume would be cool though.

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My idea is to offer all three bezels! We will see if I can.
A dial suggestion is always welcome
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But the existing dial will stay no worry

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I like the "teeth" theme, I have a rough drawing of what it might look like with smaller teeth and 3 minute markers between each tooth.  I think it preserves the theme fairly well.http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo157/ireek/mega.jpg

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I like this design also. And Steve you have hit one out of the park with both of the case back designs either would be really nice. hand6.gif

 

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Ralf,

I like the last image in the series.  Very nice bezel.

You are one busy, ambitious man!

Jim

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I like it. Enough unique characteristics to not be an Orca clone. Looking forward to seeing further developments.

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Tony Duronio wrote:  

 

This is going to be a very cool watch...... I have one thought regarding the hands. Does anyone think the outline should be black instead of the SS??? or maybe an orange hand. Seems with the massive markers that they may get lost in the lume. Might need a little contrast.......thoughts???

I think Tony is on to something, yes I agree black hands and red second hand. 

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teddyhanna wrote: Tony Duronio wrote:  

 

This is going to be a very cool watch...... I have one thought regarding the hands. Does anyone think the outline should be black instead of the SS??? or maybe an orange hand. Seems with the massive markers that they may get lost in the lume. Might need a little contrast.......thoughts???

I think Tony is on to something, yes I agree black hands and red second hand.

I agree with Tony and Teddy, it needs the contrast

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The hand color is no problem, I  offer to your satisfaction

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The black lume dial sounds awesome.

I also agree that black hands and red second would give great contrast. Maybe skeletonized on a black lume dial?toon1.gif

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Ralf:  Only one request from those like myself with small wrists.  Please make the lug to lug distance is reasonable.  I have found that most of the time, the size of the dial is not the limiting factor; it's the lug to lug distance.  For example, there are watches out there that are 45 mm and look like clocks on my wrist as the lugs are too long and hang over the sides of my wrist.  On the other hand, there are watches like the Seiko Sawtooth that is 47 mm that look great on my wrist since the lugs are shorter and sloped.  Thanks.

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Ralf,
Remember that I am first inline for one of these! They look great! Did you keep the 26mm lug size?
Thanks,
Mike

P.S.-Still waiting patiently for my PVD w/lume Sea Devil!

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You are talking to somebody with very small wrists and   I also want to wear it, so I will take care for us small wrist guys who love big watches


T3isMe wrote: Ralf:  Only one request from those like myself with small wrists.  Please make the lug to lug distance is reasonable.  I have found that most of the time, the size of the dial is not the limiting factor; it's the lug to lug distance.  For example, there are watches out there that are 45 mm and look like clocks on my wrist as the lugs are too long and hang over the sides of my wrist.  On the other hand, there are watches like the Seiko Sawtooth that is 47 mm that look great on my wrist since the lugs are shorter and sloped.  Thanks.

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 Hi Mike,
sure I remember and your name is already on the list since we spoke, but I hope you can accept the 24mm
 Ralf

Mike T. wrote: snoopy1.gif

Ralf,
Remember that I am first inline for one of these! They look great! Did you keep the 26mm lug size?
Thanks,
Mike

P.S.-Still waiting patiently for my PVD w/lume Sea Devil!

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I think the 24mm size offers a lot more selection in terms of available straps ... it does NOT look out of proportion on a 47-48mm watch either. The 24mm bracelet on my Barracuda and my Sea Devil both look mamoth ... in a good way ;) .

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Ralf, I like the shark teeth inspiration. Have you thought a less symmetric/geometric interpretation, and more literal visuals? I am thinking more Corum Bubble themes...

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Jim,
because most here like it how it is I I do not think more about it at the moment.
But for the next one I will think about what you said .
 Best Regards Ralf


Mistalava wrote: Ralf, I like the shark teeth inspiration. Have you thought a less symmetric/geometric interpretation, and more literal visuals? I am thinking more Corum Bubble themes...

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Ralph,

 

any chance you can do 1000m eta movement without changing the size of the case and offering it prebuy only, special limited edition.  Just a thought.

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Either way,  as a loyal follower of your work.  can you put me down for my usual #8.  Let me know when the preorders are ready.......thanks

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I really like this watch!  I just pre-ordered the Moray and I will definitely be putting in for this one as well.  Any idea on a pre-order date Ralf?  You can put me down for #37...

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I made a little tweek to this awesome design...

 

 

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That looks cool. I like the separated 'sharks teeth' at 12, 3, 6 and 9. It seems to break-up the look into a sharper design. Trust in Ralf. Ralf knows best. Repeat mantra as needed...

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As mentioned earlier in this thread I think an acrylic inlay bezel would be the cats ass on this watch!

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lines on the dial at 12, 3, 6, and 9 are interesting, but they take away from the idea of being teeth. I like this clean break from ... well, all my watches emphasize the 12, 3, 6, and 9... and I liked this idea from the beginning, because it did not, and is uniform and unique. just my thoughts, Thanks. - steve

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Steve Laughlin wrote: lines on the dial at 12, 3, 6, and 9 are interesting, but they take away from the idea of being teeth. I like this clean break from ... well, all my watches emphasize the 12, 3, 6, and 9... and I liked this idea from the beginning, because it did not, and is uniform and unique. just my thoughts, Thanks. - steve

Ditto!hand6.gif


love this

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BENARUS wrote:
Jim,
because most here like it how it is I I do not think more about it at the moment.
But for the next one I will think about what you said .
 Best Regards Ralf


Mistalava wrote: Ralf, I like the shark teeth inspiration. Have you thought a less symmetric/geometric interpretation, and more literal visuals? I am thinking more Corum Bubble themes...


Agree. I think it is amazing that you allow your fans to give their input in the first place. :-)

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Johnny P wrote: Steve Laughlin wrote: lines on the dial at 12, 3, 6, and 9 are interesting, but they take away from the idea of being teeth. I like this clean break from ... well, all my watches emphasize the 12, 3, 6, and 9... and I liked this idea from the beginning, because it did not, and is uniform and unique. just my thoughts, Thanks. - steve

Ditto!hand6.gif


love this


no doubt Johnny & Steve...this design is absolutely awesome and truly unique ....Johnny and I were talking tonight and he said this was a watch built around the name"Megalodon" and I agree...that's what makes it so cutting edge!perfect.gif

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Thanks for commenting on my tweek Steve...it is a very unique company that will actually allow design input and I appreciate your comments.  I agree with you with respect to the uniqueness of the design without the lines at 12, 3, 6 and 9.  I started looking at other watches and most do emphasize these numbers and markings...good to see an actual break from the norm. 

I am looking forward to the pre-order! 

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The case back drawing
Thanks to Steve

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Looks great! 

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WOW... At the rate this is moving along, My MEG-DON will arrive at the same time as my MORAY!smile8.gif

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I'm really hoping that this will have a 2824 movement option.  Regardless, I'll still be on the pre-order list...#37!

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Looks awesome guys, my watch budget is gonna be blown for a while.:P

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I love My new Sea Devil.....Moray is going to be spectacular. The Megalodon is one of the coolest concepts I have seen in a long time. I just think it will be too big for my wrist. You have heard of girlie wrists....well I have em'. My Orsa Sea Angler looks huge, but not to bad, Very comfy. My NAV B @ 44mm seems just right. The Sea Devil wears as if it is smaller than @ 45mm. I think 47mm might be pushing it for me. Although, Berg mentioned something about the lugs being at more of an angle to accomodate smaller wrists (6.25). I guess I could get get one and say Hi to it everyday in the watch box. mistake.gif

Benarus is on fire in My book and would hate to make a mistake and miss out!!!!What to do??What to do??????crap.gifcrap.gifcrap.gifcrap.gifcrap.gifcrap.gifcrap.gif 

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WOW..........hand6.gif

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 Berg mentioned?????


 I have Girlie wrists too, and I will make them that I can wear, trust in me as you said even the 45mm Sea Devil wears smaller.
Ralf



sparkii76 wrote: I love My new Sea Devil.....Moray is going to be spectacular. The Megalodon is one of the coolest concepts I have seen in a long time. I just think it will be too big for my wrist. You have heard of girlie wrists....well I have em'. My Orsa Sea Angler looks huge, but not to bad, Very comfy. My NAV B @ 44mm seems just right. The Sea Devil wears as if it is smaller than @ 45mm. I think 47mm might be pushing it for me. Although, Berg mentioned something about the lugs being at more of an angle to accomodate smaller wrists (6.25). I guess I could get get one and say Hi to it everyday in the watch box. mistake.gif

Benarus is on fire in My book and would hate to make a mistake and miss out!!!!What to do??What to do??????crap.gifcrap.gifcrap.gifcrap.gifcrap.gifcrap.gifcrap.gif 

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Looks simply awesome both the dial,case and even the case back...I'm all in for this....Ralf put me in on the reservation list #10 Thumbsup3.gif

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count me in. #29 if available.watch2.gif:D

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is done, I hope to get final news next week.


watchu2 wrote: count me in. #29 if available.watch2.gif:D

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OMG Ralf this looks so awesome!!! I am going to definitely have to have 1 of these!!!

I am a long time shark lover and the Megalodon is 1 of my favorites as well as the thresher shark..

I do like the suggestion of the blood red benarus on the black dial, also think it would look great on a white face as well..

Put down for 1 of these babies!

I love the case back as well!!!

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This design is totally growing on me...how many pieces are you planning to make of this model? If possible, please put me down for #49.

I actually have an unusual request, probably blasphemous for most...but I personally appreciate both auto and quartz, and really would like to have some of my divers quartz models as well. Since I've got both the Barracuda and Sea Devil with auto, in addition to possible ETA auto options, can we have a quartz option (Citizen or Ronda or maybe even a kinetic??) If possible, I'd definitely like to request a quartz version of this watch. :shock:

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Man, if we are calling out #'s on this one I have to get down with #4!!toon1.gif

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The caseback looks awesomeyahoo.gif

Ralf has my numbertoon1.gifwoohoo.gif

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How about RED DIAL ?

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Dragnattck wrote:
OMG Ralf this looks so awesome!!! I am going to definitely have to have 1 of these!!!

I am a long time shark lover and the Megalodon is 1 of my favorites as well as the thresher shark..

I do like the suggestion of the blood red benarus on the black dial, also think it would look great on a white face as well..

Put down for 1 of these babies!

I love the case back as well!!!

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Ralf, as always I'm in for #20...looks like you need to start a list....you know it's your own fault, if you stop coming out with cool designs you might actually get some rest...

Thanks, Nick


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Montauk wrote: How about RED DIAL ?

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Dragnattck wrote:
OMG Ralf this looks so awesome!!! I am going to definitely have to have 1 of these!!!

I am a long time shark lover and the Megalodon is 1 of my favorites as well as the thresher shark..

I do like the suggestion of the blood red benarus on the black dial, also think it would look great on a white face as well..

Put down for 1 of these babies!

I love the case back as well!!!

A red dial would be awesome.  There are not too many red watches out there!!!

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Dont forget my #5yourock.gif

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In case i came out too early,  please put #8 down for me. I am glad the name is getting placed on the case back, that way my friends can tell me the name of their favorite Benarus watch I have.

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Ralf I do not care what number i get as long as I get 1 lol.. Damn this watch has me very excited!!

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Let me say I really like this one and I am gonna get one.

To me, the the yellow colored lume markers look to much like the Seiko Black Monster. I love the glow at night on the monster, but I can't stand the color during the day. That yellow is awful.

I have a Seamaster, the lume color is perfect. A nice minty green.

I hope to get the lume color ON THE DIAL AND HANDS to match the bezel...all GREEN or slightly different shades of green.


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I have seen enough already ;) . Ralf, please put me down for # 100 if available. Will compliment my #50 Green Moray quite nicely :cool: .

 

Props AGAIN to Steve for another brilliant caseback design!

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Almost forgot, I would like to pay for #007...Thanks Ralf


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Who said big tooth (Megalodon) was extinct:Dyahoo.gif 

Megalodon with the great white shark and a human for scaleBouncy.gif

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Thank God they're extinct! There would be no way I'd get on a boat or in the water with those things around!

 

Johnny P wrote:
Who said big tooth (Megalodon) was extinct:Dyahoo.gif 

Megalodon with the great white shark and a human for scaleBouncy.gif


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CRO wrote: Thank God they're extinct! There would be no way I'd get on a boat or in the water with those things around!

 




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These things are exactly why I only go into the water up to my ankles.... toon1.gif
if I'm wearing my CX 12000 I may wander in up to my knees...after all it is rated up to 12000 feet
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I agree with you 100% regarding the Seiko lume color... I read numerous reviews how great it is at night, no one had the courage to say that it is unattractive in daylight, and even worse under fluorescent office lights.

There's got to be a better lume - blue or white....

Seiko BM is a good solid watch, but I am hoping that the BENARUS MORAY will give me reason to sell it.

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Ok made an adjustment to lume.... green!hand6.gifhand6.gifhand6.gif

Hopefully you can see the image.


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Thanks guys I have noted all your numbers.
 
 The lume will be Superluminova C3 and also for the Moray I will get samples with C3 lume to compare. I am not sure if Seiko has a much more specific lume they do not sell, because what is called Japanese lume is light yellowish but  not stronger imo.
I will enforce a quotation soon and also a bracelet drawing, the  bracelet end pieces cause some problems because the case shape is so round I and I want them to fit tight.


As soon as I have a quotation, I will let you know.
Steve is so kind do do a bezel design for the bezel#2
you will soon see.

Regards Ralf

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Perhaps, some day, we will be blessed with the fortune of meeting Ralf in person.  But until then, let us continue to support Ralf by ordering BENARUS watches.

Seriously, you are doing a great job, listening, and responding to so many messages, it is a wonder you have time to design, and build watches.

Jim

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Here is a bezel design that ties in with the dial, let me know what you guys think. - steve


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yes I have the  time ,
BUT I CANNOT EAT AND SLEEP AND NO GIRLS!!!!!!!
But that doesn't matter important are the watches
Thanks to all for your support also in designing I fell much better with all your input


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Perhaps, some day, we will be blessed with the fortune of meeting Ralf in person.  But until then, let us continue to support Ralf by ordering BENARUS watches.

Seriously, you are doing a great job, listening, and responding to so many messages, it is a wonder you have time to design, and build watches.

Jim

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Steve Laughlin wrote: Here is a bezel design that ties in with the dial, let me know what you guys think. - steve


Steve!!!!! I love you, no not that way.  subtlelaugh.gifsubtlelaugh.gif as an artistThumbsup3.gif

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BENARUS wrote:
yes I have the  time ,
BUT I CANNOT EAT AND SLEEP AND NO GIRLS!!!!!!!
But that doesn't matter important are the watches
Thanks to all for your support also in designing I fell much better with all your input



Ralf I'll do you a favor!! If you need any help with the girls!!! Let me knowgoofyDon't forget Swiss ETA on mine please.ThumbsUp02.gif

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Steve...the your #2 bezel design is a killer..i'm in for this bezel....

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INCREDIBLE VIDEO OF MEGALODON  ...

http://www.video.scubadata.com/show-video.php?media=http://youtube.com/v/WythJqdjWAk.swf&tag=&title=Incredible

 

 

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Montauk wrote: INCREDIBLE VIDEO OF MEGALODON  ...

http://www.video.scubadata.com/show-video.php?media=http://youtube.com/v/WythJqdjWAk.swf&tag=&title=Incredible

 

 

LOL I like the music! :cool:

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no no this is another idea for #1 bezel
#2 is coming soon;)
magpies14 wrote: Steve...the your #2 bezel design is a killer..i'm in for this bezel....

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bezel design is looking great. Will it be luminous?

 

Ralf, I order you to take some r&r with the ladies. smile25.gif

You will feel relaxed and have better focus. Just don;t go falling in love or anything.

We will never hear from you again. LOL coyote2.giftoon1.gif

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I just want one of these...#

 

 



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Any chance of offering options of BGW9 lume for the indices instead? I just feel a white color is a much better reflection of a megalodon's teeth....

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I am not sure I can afford an ETA movement, if it keeps cost down, I'll stick with Miyota.

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Steve Laughlin wrote: Here is a bezel design that ties in with the dial, let me know what you guys think. - steve



Absolutely Awesome Steve! yourock.gif...I would also like to see an eta in mine....maybe some can be made with eta's and some with miyotas....but a special watch like this is deserving a eta engine imo hand6.gif

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G Pilot wrote: I am not sure I can afford an ETA movement, if it keeps cost down, I'll stick with Miyota.


My friend  believe me a few  dollors extra wouldn't hurt you,  you will appreciate the watch more, the watch is worth the extra money with a ETA movement. Everytime you look at your wrist you will love it. This is an advice  from a old WIS dawg;) Trust me I have been around the block a few times. There is nothing like an Eta movement with a great design. But to each their own. JMHO!;)

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ok,you can have #3




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BENARUS wrote: ok,you can have #3




teddyhanna wrote: Ralf can have either #1 #2 #3......What you thought I would not ask..subtlelaugh.gifsubtlelaugh.gifsubtlelaugh.gif

I just want one of these...#

 

 





Just leave number two alone.subtlelaugh.gifsubtlelaugh.gifsubtlelaugh.gif

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Steve Laughlin wrote: Here is a bezel design that ties in with the dial, let me know what you guys think. - steve




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Gotta be ETA powered.yourock.gif

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OK......Put me down as well for one of these monsters!!!!Thumbsup3.gif

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LUME CHART borrowed from discussion on other watch forum.

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what is the height of the megalodon? I have searched the thread a few times and cant seem to find that information.

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By the sheer number of responses to this thread, more than any other Benarus thread, I think that this watch will be a sell out!

I am really hoping for an ETA in this beast...I would have no problem paying more for ETA! 

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about 16mm, good to wear to dress suit ;)


kdsarch wrote:
what is the height of the megalodon? I have searched the thread a few times and cant seem to find that information.

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Don't get me wrong I would love to have the resources to buy what ever I want. Right now, I am just not sure what a "few dollars" more for an ETA is going to be.

A big deep thick layer of C1 (for the teeth look) or C5 (to match the bezel) would be what I want.


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looks like ETA 2824 base movement will be close to $100 more than Miyota Movement, but I am not sure of Ralf's pricing.

Ralf will have to answer this also, but it is my understanding that the dial feet needs to match with the movement, also the hands need to be the right diameter to fit the pin on the movement, and I don't think Miyota and ETA are interchangeable, the dials and hands will need to be made for the ETA, or the Miyota, but both might be costly because they would be different. I might be wrong, but I know when buying MKII after market parts, the specs are very specific to make sure they fit right.

On the lume, I like C1 and C3, I prefer the yellowish green over the other green, but I like white the best I think.

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I will start a poll about it.

If you prefer white I would take BGW9 instead of C1
But lets poll a little

 

Steve Laughlin wrote: looks like ETA 2824 base movement will be close to $100 more than Miyota Movement, but I am not sure of Ralf's pricing.

Ralf will have to answer this also, but it is my understanding that the dial feet needs to match with the movement, also the hands need to be the right diameter to fit the pin on the movement, and I don't think Miyota and ETA are interchangeable, the dials and hands will need to be made for the ETA, or the Miyota, but both might be costly because they would be different. I might be wrong, but I know when buying MKII after market parts, the specs are very specific to make sure they fit right.

On the lume, I like C1 and C3, I prefer the yellowish green over the other green, but I like white the best I think.

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No they are not interchangeable, I have done a few mods myself. Beleive me someone needs to make after market parts for miyota, but that's a different subject.face4.gif

I am slowly being talked into an ETA, I guess it just means saving a little bit moremistake.gif

#007 hurry up and get here!!

What am I saying, I am still waitng for my SeaDevilparty.gif


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right. so the cost of ETA might not be just for the movement. the dial and hands and other parts would need to be made specifically for the ETA, so the cost increase might be more than $100

but Ralf will know the final cost for producing this watch, which I think he is getting close to having an estimate.

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Johnny P wrote: Steve Laughlin wrote: Here is a bezel design that ties in with the dial, let me know what you guys think. - steve


Steve!!!!! I love you, no not that way.  subtlelaugh.gifsubtlelaugh.gif as an artistThumbsup3.gif

Steve that is an awesome bezel desgin for this watch!!!!!perfect.gif

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Ralf,
I read through the posts looking for an answer, but was unable to find one...can you make it a 1000m or does it put it out of range? I only ask because as a GIGANTIC tool watch it is cool to have '1000M' stamped on it somwhere:) Anyway, just a question. Thanks and keep it coming...and since everyone is claiming numbers so far...I'll take #100!
Ciao,
Mike

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Hi Mike, for this dial diameter we would need a very thick sapphire glas and that would be also much more,also the case has to be thicker means it would differ.
I think we shall not raise the costs more  and 500m should be by far enough




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Ralf,
I read through the posts looking for an answer, but was unable to find one...can you make it a 1000m or does it put it out of range? I only ask because as a GIGANTIC tool watch it is cool to have '1000M' stamped on it somwhere:) Anyway, just a question. Thanks and keep it coming...and since everyone is claiming numbers so far...I'll take #100!
Ciao,
Mike

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HEY RALF YOU ROCK..........yourock.gif

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I might be the minority here but would it be possible to have a dial with no date?  It's a big a** dial with a small bit for the date... 

maybe we can make an outline for the date and make it look like scrum (sp?)

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Date window is a must for me.  With black date wheel and black dial, it makes it very discrete imo.

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DM71 wrote: Date window is a must for me.  With black date wheel and black dial, it makes it very discrete imo.

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ambassadeur wrote: DM71 wrote: Date window is a must for me.  With black date wheel and black dial, it makes it very discrete imo.

WORD

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This watch is going to be kick a$$

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Yeah, I really like having the date on watches as well.

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I like also date windows and I think in black is it really decent

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This may be the best Benarus release yet!!

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In an attempt to differentiate a 12 o'clock position when looking at the watch in the dark, I have taken the suggestion of one of you to remove the teeth at 9 and 3, and replace them with smaller versions. This way you would always be able to orient the hands on the watch face.

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But any way you slice it I think this is one watch I want to have. I am new to Benarus watches and I like the collaboration that has gone into the watches Ralf has produced to date, and this one looks like it will be a winner, too.

When and how much should I send for the pre-order? :) Is #72 available?

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As for me... I won't remove my MEG-DON before bed and unless my arm is hyper-extended or my shoulder dislocated I look at my watch the same way every time... So the 12 stays right where I left it.

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You are telling me you can look at this dial and know where 12 o'clock is in the dark, versus 11 or 1? You've got a level arm, my friend! :) The indicator on the bezel will not necessarily be at 12 o'clock, depends on where you last left it.

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LOL! I hear ya... I am just groovin on the massive markers so much I am looking past what I consider the small stuff. It is too bad that there is not lume that looks the same color during the day but at night or in the dark it glows a different color. That way the 12 marker tooth could be differentiated.

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A couple of thoughts;

 

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Second thought;

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Interesting development ...can you please create image with RED LUME MARKERS on white dial?  Or Blood Red Markers on FULL LUME DIAL ...

Thanks,

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Another variation, or two.

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I think the bezel does a good job defining 12, 3, 6 and 9. I love the well balanced dial of 12 large marks that was part of Ralf's original idea. I don't think it literally should be a mouth, it is more "tribal design" and "island surfer like" to me as a complete circle of large marks... just my opinion, of course my opinion as always is "less is more" and "just because you can, doesn't mean you should" -steve

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These last two tried to be suttle using lume colors from the chart in a previous post.

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Steve Laughlin wrote: I think the bezel does a good job defining 12, 3, 6 and 9. I love the well balanced dial of 12 large marks that was part of Ralf's original idea. I don't think it literally should be a mouth, it is more "tribal design" and "island surfer like" to me as a complete circle of large marks... just my opinion. -steve

I agree the bezel solves the problem, but only if made to not rotate.  My last idea I think is a balance in keeping with Ralf's nice balance, but a slight shift in the lume color in upper and lower two "teeth" to help with low light orientation.

I see what your saying about the "tribal design", but I was under the impression that Ralf was intending more influence from the teeth of the great shark.  However, I agree that it shouldn't cross a certain line going to far to imitate it.  Perhaps the last one with a slight change in lume color on the four teeth is my favorit balance so far.

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I like the less is more... I could even do without the 500m. I love the sterile, clean original design.

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Montauk wrote: Interesting development ...can you please create image with RED LUME MARKERS on white dial?  Or Blood Red Markers on FULL LUME DIAL ...

Thanks,

Jim

Was this what you had in mind?

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Sort of, but I must admit ... it's not too pretty, looks more like a rose garden than a megaladon.  But thanks for doing the graphic. 

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Looking at the version with red markers, it might look really neat at night with the white face being in full lume and the markers in a red lume on the black band in the outer perimeter of the dial.  A more "3D" look perhaps.

I see what you mean about the rose garden effect with the red, perhaps different colors it would be better.  Then again mabe the extra lume idea simply doesn't fit the theme?

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moresnowdays wrote:
I agree the bezel solves the problem, but only if made to not rotate.  My last idea I think is a balance in keeping with Ralf's nice balance, but a slight shift in the lume color in upper and lower two "teeth" to help with low light orientation.


Should we rename the watch "Nasferatu"?


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This one has a cool look .... may be the only tint should be at 12.

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These last two tried to be suttle using lume colors from the chart in a previous post.

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Montauk wrote: This one has a cool look .... may be the only tint should be at 12.

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These last two tried to be suttle using lume colors from the chart in a previous post.

It's not easy seeing the variation in color on my screen, but I would think it would be more significant in the dark.

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How about ORANGE LUME DIAL (not quite as rosey) w/ white TEETH ?

 

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Looking at the version with red markers, it might look really neat at night with the white face being in full lume and the markers in a red lume on the black band in the outer perimeter of the dial.  A more "3D" look perhaps.

I see what you mean about the rose garden effect with the red, perhaps different colors it would be better.  Then again mabe the extra lume idea simply doesn't fit the theme?

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I really like the clean/simple design the best. It would be cool to incorporate a different color lume at 12 that is only visible at night, if possible. This is going to be a very cool watch/cool10.gif

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Very nice guys. I've very interested in this watch.  hand6.gif

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I wonder how it would look if the 12 hour mark was split in two, a bit like the Seiko Monster. This way you would keep the tooth look and make the 12h easy to locate. Just a taught. ;)

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I think it would look like he was trying to rip off the Seiko 12 hour marker.  :)

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I still think 12 is easy to find without drawing special attention to it. Even in the dark, especially with the size of these markers. The Megalodon doesn't need to be your "tactical recon" watch, there are other watches that can fit that nitch in your collection, my Marathon GSAR does it for me.

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Steve Laughlin wrote: I still think 12 is easy to find without drawing special attention to it. Even in the dark, especially with the size of these markers. The Megalodon doesn't need to be your "tactical recon" watch, there are other watches that can fit that nitch in your collection, my Marathon GSAR does it for me.

Not sure to what extent I can agree here.  I would agree that using C3 lume with these large marker there would likely be enough twilight from street lights or even moon light to orient the watch fine.  However, if the watch was to be considered a functional diver, as Benarus describes on the "About Benarus" page of the website, something has to change.  In complete darkness of deep water there is nothing that would help orient the watch and make it useable.

On the other hand, if it is not meant to be used in those conditions, it looks great.

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jasontking wrote: I think it would look like he was trying to rip off the Seiko 12 hour marker.  :)
After looking at my Monster, i can say that you're right.  Actually these markers are already almost identical to the 12h mark on the Seiko.  Well, i don't know anymore mistake.gif 

Anyway, there is still an other dial coming, so...

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Are those of us looking for some spatial orientation of the dial in the dark all wet?

Couldn't there be some small thing done to the 12 o'clock marker? How about making the 'BENARUS' lumed? Or put an 'M' in the 12 o'clock marker? Or something?

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I agree with you.  The more I look at the drawings, the more I am convinced that the concept is great, but the execution is strictly novelty, neither a serious diver or timekeeper.  Conceptually, a great big lume watch is a great concept, but function must take precedence.  Take for example the MORAY that has an excellent legible dial, classic look and pure function.  The same cannot be said for the Megaladon at this time. 

Now, everyone has and is entitled to their own opinion... that's why there are many different breeds of dogs, and no two people dress the same.  So, if the concept is to make a limited edition novelty watch, then by all estimates that goal has been achieved.  But if the goal is to produce a fully functional dive watch that will be admired and collected for artistic design, quality build and execution of a thematic concept that adds character without detracting from the foremost function, then, in my opinion, it misses the mark at this point in time.

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Steve Laughlin wrote: I still think 12 is easy to find without drawing special attention to it. Even in the dark, especially with the size of these markers. The Megalodon doesn't need to be your "tactical recon" watch, there are other watches that can fit that nitch in your collection, my Marathon GSAR does it for me.

Not sure to what extent I can agree here.  I would agree that using C3 lume with these large marker there would likely be enough twilight from street lights or even moon light to orient the watch fine.  However, if the watch was to be considered a functional diver, as Benarus describes on the "About Benarus" page of the website, something has to change.  In complete darkness of deep water there is nothing that would help orient the watch and make it useable.

On the other hand, if it is not meant to be used in those conditions, it looks great.

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Guys, I am just openly expressing my opinion, all opinions are welcome but in the end it is Ralf's watch design. I am just saying (for me) I have plenty of dive watches and I am not sure I would take any of my nice ones on a dive trip, I would use my cheap quartz FREESTYLE plastic dive watch that has served me well since 1989. I have been certified Open Water 1 since 1989 & Open Water 2 in 1996.. and I have been on night dives, I am just saying out of all my watches, I am not looking at this Megalodon as my "Tool, night mission, need to find 12:00 while doing S.W.A.T. Training" Watch.

It is just a cool design as the simple dial it started out as, I just offered ralf my idea of popping it into 2 layers for depth and to introduce new textures like steel.

I just want my opinion to be heard as you guy discuss all the changes you want to see. and I have expressed my opinion, so from now I will no longer interject into your creative discussions.

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Oh come now Steve relax buddy. Your opinion is just as valuable as anyone else's here. ;)

Myself I have not done any diving since I got out of the navy back in the 80's. If I were to dive today. Myself I'd likely use my G-Shock. :cool:

Let's remember to keep it civil guys. This is 3T. Home away from home. :)

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G-Shock would be a good choice.

maybe I will run a few dials by Ralf and see if he wants to post them.

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Steve that is the one that has me drooling! yourock.gif

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Oh my love the PVD too. Dang!!!

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Steve:  Like the PVD one alot!!!ThumbsUp02.gif

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T3isMe wrote: Steve:  Like the PVD one alot!!!ThumbsUp02.gif


+1 I love the PVD one too. Looks really nice with the red minute hand !

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I think this is my favorite to date.

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Yeah, I like where this is going, with DLC.

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 The pre order has not started yet, and it will be numbered from 1-50


I will offer a second dial and the first dial will stay like it is
 
On the second it will be easy to locate the 12 at night
soopah wrote: But any way you slice it I think this is one watch I want to have. I am new to Benarus watches and I like the collaboration that has gone into the watches Ralf has produced to date, and this one looks like it will be a winner, too.

When and how much should I send for the pre-order? :) Is #72 available?

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Steve, these last to versions look great.  This last one in pvd is awsome!  Maybe my first pvd watch:)

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STEVE,

This is a real improvement, maintains the MEGALADON concept, and is by far the best dial.  I personally prefer the all SS bezel.  This is no longer a novelty, but shows concerted design effort and refinement while staying true to the original MEGALADON concept. 

So, I thank you for your continued CREATIVE support, and I thank Skip for his observations as well. 

The RED second hand looks awesome, and provides just enough detail / color.  My opinion -- this is good to go ! 

If possible, please post one w/ SS bezel... THANKS !!!

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Generally, I am not a fan of PVD, I like all SS, but THIS ONE ROCKS !  The  RED minute hand really jumps off the dial, and this dial is pure FUNCTION while achieving the MEGALADON goal !

Please show this one in all SS case & bezel.

Going back to work to make $$$ to order more Benarus watches.

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Yeah, I like where this is going, with DLC.

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STEVE,

This is a real improvement, maintains the MEGALADON concept, and is by far the best dial.  I personally prefer the all SS bezel.  This is no longer a novelty, but shows concerted design effort and refinement while staying true to the original MEGALADON concept. 

So, I thank you for your continued CREATIVE support, and I thank Skip for his observations as well. 

The RED second hand looks awesome, and provides just enough detail / color.  My opinion -- this is good to go ! 

If possible, please post one w/ SS bezel... THANKS !!!

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I think once we see this modded dial with a few different bezel options, this will be the preferred #1 dial (over the original) and the #2 dial can be what Steve made with fewer teeth and the extra minute markers. After a few more weeks of consideration perhaps it could be put to a poll.

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I would like to see the dial shown below, SS case, SS bezel, and mod the dial with chapter ring and extra minute markers, add the Red minute hand.

 

 

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STEVE,

This is a real improvement, maintains the MEGALADON concept, and is by far the best dial.  I personally prefer the all SS bezel.  This is no longer a novelty, but shows concerted design effort and refinement while staying true to the original MEGALADON concept. 

So, I thank you for your continued CREATIVE support, and I thank Skip for his observations as well. 

The RED second hand looks awesome, and provides just enough detail / color.  My opinion -- this is good to go ! 

If possible, please post one w/ SS bezel... THANKS !!!

JimBouncy.gif

 

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I think once we see this modded dial with a few different bezel options, this will be the preferred #1 dial (over the original) and the #2 dial can be what Steve made with fewer teeth and the extra minute markers. After a few more weeks of consideration perhaps it could be put to a poll.

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Tru Fewer numbers on the bezel.  Black dial.  You are really onto something special.  This looks totally aquatic, deep sea, like a ship's clock.  Retro / Modern. VERY COOL !

 

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need to work on some other stuff for a while, i'll check back later. -steve

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Montauk wrote:
Also, try black chapter ring, white seconds markers and white lume.

I will, on the first dial with the bigger 12 tooth.

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BEZEL  mod:   1   2  15   4   5  30   7  8  45   10   11   00

15   30  45  face to the outside... smaller numbers face to the inside

 

 

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I'm not digging this one as much. I preferred the smaller markers with the tooth shape for an alternate dial. I also like the darker brushed dial.

But I love all the cool ideas! Need to have at least 50 buyers for each finished combination, and it sounds like Ralf wants to keep this one to just 100 pieces total, so only two designs will see the light of day, and the dark of the depths! :)

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Awesome Job Steve. I love the looks of these 3 and right now would have to go with the pvd. Really want a white dial tho but love the looks of 3rd example, pvd.

Man it just blows me away the talent we have here at 3T from makers to the artists who help with the conceptualization.

I can not wait for Ralf to start on this line.

and once again Steve thanks for all your work.

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Nice RalfThumbsup3.gif

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Ralf, let me mock up a day shot of that dial -steve

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Wow Steve! That first one is really nice, so are the two others but my favorite is the first.  The ONLY thing i would change to be perfect to my eyes is the 00 mark at 12.  I say that because i have one diver that as the '00' instead of the arrow head and i find it harder to find the 0 position on the dial since there is no pointing to the minute marck.  The '00' looks good but is less functional imo.  I wish Ralf will like it.  ThumbsUp02.gif  With that dial, i'm a buyer!

Please don't stop your good work Steve, i'm sure i'm not the only one that appreciate the effort you put in Ralf's project.

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Sure I would appreciate, 
 the idea is not from me , my photoshop skills are to bad, it is from our member JD


 I like the new version from dial one the minute markers look good  and the smaller markers with one big at 12 also.
Only the half skeleton are not possible and have to less lume  imo  and the 00 on the bezel is not my taste , in Germany you can read 00 on some toilets:(







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I will put the "tooth style" arrow back at 12, the 00 was instrument gauge idea.

I also don't like the skeleton hands as much after I made them, but it was too much work to go back. I will fill them in on the next one.


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I hope I can get an answer from the factory next week about the bracelet and a quotation, so when can than decide about the dials and start.

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I think this one is just about the final version of dial 1, what do you think Ralf? and others? **The minute marks are not accurate, just a representation, the dial maker will need to make sure they are on the mark.

is it possible to get a second hand painted like this?

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I noticed that the numbers on the bezel have gone from facing in to facing out.  Does it matter from a diving standpoint?  As I look at my other divers, the numbers on the bezel all face in - these are the only ones I have used for scuba diving in the past.  Curious to hear everyone's thoughts.

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I like the idea of a Cuda type lume chapter ring but I'm unsure how to pull this off with the teeth theme.  Please don't laugh at my horrible attempt of a dial:?. 


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usaav wrote: I noticed that the numbers on the bezel have gone from facing in to facing out.  Does it matter from a diving standpoint?  As I look at my other divers, the numbers on the bezel all face in - these are the only ones I have used for scuba diving in the past.  Curious to hear everyone's thoughts.

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Hi Patrick,

I personally prefer the usual layout with face in.

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Ralf,

this is looking very refined, functional, unique and yet has "classic " Blancpain styling.  

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I see where you are going Michael, but on dial #1 the idea is to have the teeth on the chapter ring, so there is overlapping and a raising effect of the teeth. I am still hoping this will be possible from the dial makers and Ralf, because it would add depth to the dial and not have the teeth flat and painted on the dial but raised on a piece of plastic over a steel dial.

I also prefer the bezel numbers base line to be on the inside like most watches, the Moray has them out, but it is vintage and I have seen real vintage examples like that, but I flipped them on the Megalodon at the request of a 3TWIS, but it is nice to hear others opinions on it, so please let us know your thoughts.


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I like the version Steve has Ralf, tho the lume shot one you showed looks good, i think the teeth need to stay but maybe add a thin chapter ring lume like michael showed. I think losing the teeth takes away from the concept of what the megaladon is.

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is it possible to get a second hand painted like this?


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Steve Laughlin wrote: I think this one is just about the final version of dial 1, what do you think Ralf? and others? **The minute marks are not accurate, just a representation, the dial maker will need to make sure they are on the mark.

is it possible to get a second hand painted like this?


I'm in but with the numbers reversed on the bezel ;)

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ps I am a diver and do not mind the the bezel numbers either, tho i like the way steve has them currently better and also prefer the arrow as opposed to the 00

 

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I also second the idea that there be a ring of lume like on the Barracuda but would be satisfied with many of the drafts that Steve's drawn up.

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I can try a lume ring, I think it would eliminate the minute marks, unless those can appear as black. I just think it is going to add a light color to where the black is, and the teeth will not be visually pushed forward as much. I will try the idea and post it.

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you are probable right Steve did not think about losing the minute markers

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I think this the perfect choice for the first dial.  but I will offer 2 dials and the second must not have so many teeth, and I think a lume ring is a nice option. But also a full lume dial is possible, I will collect some drawings and we will start a poll in a few days.


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I see where you are going Michael, but on dial #1 the idea is to have the teeth on the chapter ring, so there is overlapping and a raising effect of the teeth. I am still hoping this will be possible from the dial makers and Ralf, because it would add depth to the dial and not have the teeth flat and painted on the dial but raised on a piece of plastic over a steel dial.

I also prefer the bezel numbers base line to be on the inside like most watches, the Moray has them out, but it is vintage and I have seen real vintage examples like that, but I flipped them on the Megalodon at the request of a 3TWIS, but it is nice to hear others opinions on it, so please let us know your thoughts.



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visually, I like the black chapter ring, with grey minute marks... it pushes back and lets the teeth come forward... it looks cleaner over all, but here is a lume ring with black minute marks.

-steve

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Steve Laughlin wrote: I see where you are going Michael, but on dial #1 the idea is to have the teeth on the chapter ring, so there is overlapping and a raising effect of the teeth. I am still hoping this will be possible from the dial makers and Ralf, because it would add depth to the dial and not have the teeth flat and painted on the dial but raised on a piece of plastic over a steel dial.

I also prefer the bezel numbers base line to be on the inside like most watches, the Moray has them out, but it is vintage and I have seen real vintage examples like that, but I flipped them on the Megalodon at the request of a 3TWIS, but it is nice to hear others opinions on it, so please let us know your thoughts.



I think it looks great just like this.   dial #1 ser no. 5 for me.  The one Ralf is showing is a posible 2nd dial right?

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agree, I think dial 1 should be just like above...

Let's begin ideas for dial #2 please!

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I think the first dial is fine like it is but a lume ring dial addition would be nice


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less teeth, lume ring, lume dial... combination of lume dial and raised C3 hour marks? I think that would look cool at night, different intensities of lume.

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We need to remember that the Megalodon has a 36mm dial.  The Devil is 32mm.  We have plenty of room to work with.  The dial and chapter ring in this photo is 29mm..


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Steve this is very, very good... the only thing I might suggest is thicken the jet black outline around the teeth... should make them really pop off the flat gray background.  And don't forget SS bezel option !  Or the SS / Black bezel like Muhle Glashutte Rasmus... sort of a compromise between all black and all SS bezel.

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visually, I like the black chapter ring, with grey minute marks... it pushes back and lets the teeth come forward... it looks cleaner over all, but here is a lume ring with black minute marks.

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I like that Seiko dial, it is a good example of what I was thinking for raised teeth, and I think a lume ring on that seiko wouldn't look as nice, for the same reason I am not big on the idea for this dark dial.

Ralf, could it be an option on dial 1, (lume chapter ring or not) sounds like it could get confusing.

to accommodate this lume ring you speak of, I think the teeth all need to move more towards the center to make room behind them, but again, for me it is a matter of lights and darks, and the lume bezels seems distracting to me on this dial, I was going to make a lume chapter ring for dial #2, but if we are not done with #1 yet, then I will need to bring the teeth in, or make them larger, but need to make more room behind them, it isn't a matter of overall dial size, it is how much room there is behind the teeth.

I am not going to show all the bezels each time at this point, Ralf said 3 will be available, I am sure there will be options to choose from. I think it is better to focus on the dial elements at this point.

I am fast with the designs, but it does take time away from my regular work, so little changes I will not make and I can't show every idea.

but next I will move the teeth in a bit and thicken the plastic around them to make room for a lume chapter ring, or just black chapter ring with minute marks.

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The raised teeth are alredy a chapter ring and  I cannot do another one.
Dial one without lume ring like is now, and the dial 2 design is open for ideas .
I would suggest someting with a lume ring or a full lume but I am open for every good idea.


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great!

I am ready to spend plenty of time modifying ideas for dial #2 so please bring your ideas forward.

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Add to dial shown below, raised chrome numbers on the dial:  1  2  4  5  7 8  10  11. 

Pantone 3125 dial

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Montauk wrote: Add to dial shown below, raised chrome numbers on the dial:  1  2  4  5  7 8  10  11. 

Pantone 3125 dial

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did you guys see my day render of this? it was real similar to dial #1

what about a white lume dial for #2, or a different color, lighter perhaps?


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Yeah, this is the one I want, don't change anything, I think I prefer this bezel with the lume, too. Once you have the Moray production finalized I suppose you can start getting samples for this run, and then the pre-order can start! :)

Can I get #42???

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did you guys see my day render of this? it was real similar to dial #1

what about a white lume dial for #2, or a different color, lighter perhaps?




 

 



Steve & Ralf heeeeeey these look awesome and..........perfect.gif

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I like what you did with adding a vibrant red to the minute hand and second hand tip Steve! Great work!ThumbsUp02.gif

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Steve -  there have been a lot of different designs, and posts ... I recall seeing a blue dial with lume dots, and second markers, one big tooth at 12.  How 'bout using that color and with this design?

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did you guys see my day render of this? it was real similar to dial #1

what about a white lume dial for #2, or a different color, lighter perhaps?



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JDBuckwell wrote:
I like what you did with adding a vibrant red to the minute hand and second hand tip Steve! Great work!ThumbsUp02.gif

Thanks! I am getting ready to mess with some more ideas for dial #2 in a few minutes.

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there were a few nice designs in the megalodon price thread that can be used for #2

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yes, these? I think we can build on these with the new ideas.





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I think a lume dial could be nice for dial #2. 

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soopah wrote:

Yeah, this is the one I want, don't change anything, I think I prefer this bezel with the lume, too. Once you have the Moray production finalized I suppose you can start getting samples for this run, and then the pre-order can start! :)

Can I get #42???

This one really does it for me too!  Awesome work! yourock.gif

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lume dial, with separate lume on marks and chapter ring? I think that would be cool to have different lume areas that have different intensities, and a full lume bezel option.

lume, lume, and more lume...:shock:

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I really like the white dial.  I think it looks kick a*s.  If your gonna do the lume, tip the second hand in yellow or red it needs broken up, it looks to matchy match.  Just my opinion, but hey these ideas for the 2 dial look great

The white "ROCKS".................perfect.gif

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ok, I am going to make another example using white lume

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Steve you rock bud.....yourock.gif 

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This thing is morphing into one hell of a watch...congrats!

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dial #2 concept, combining a few of the ideas and previous concepts. also using a raised chapter ring that has a brighter lume on it that will match the bezel. a darker or blue lume (pure white) dial under the ring, so the watch would have 2 different intensities, or shades of lume.




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Steve I really dig the first pic (white)...........perfect.gif

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Losing the black indices and adding some red (Steve's got me on a red kick) is an option:

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JDBuckwell wrote:
Losing the black indices and adding some red (Steve's got me on a red kick) is an option:



Is that a red lume? Otherwise, it wouldn't look any different in that view than the original night view Steve posted. You would need to modify the white/lume dial version.

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And here a suggestion  from a German customer I guess the poll for the dial 2 will be interesting;)

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soopah wrote:
JDBuckwell wrote:
Losing the black indices and adding some red (Steve's got me on a red kick) is an option:



Is that a red lume? Otherwise, it wouldn't look any different in that view than the original night view Steve posted. You would need to modify the white/lume dial version.


Yes... red lume. I like the look of a different color marking the 12 o'clock (JSAR is a good example):



The cool thing here is that you have red lume within a green or blue lume ring—that would be a unique feature.

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But a problem could be that the red lume is very weak and most dial factories do not offer it, even orange is a problem but much stronger than red

JDBuckwell wrote: soopah wrote:
JDBuckwell wrote:
Losing the black indices and adding some red (Steve's got me on a red kick) is an option:



Is that a red lume? Otherwise, it wouldn't look any different in that view than the original night view Steve posted. You would need to modify the white/lume dial version.


Yes... red lume. I like the look of a different color marking the 12 o'clock (JSAR is a good example):



The cool thing here is that you have red lume within a green or blue lume ring—that would be a unique feature.

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Wow, This is the one for me, good job guys, I would like to get a reservation in there Ralf. Progressing very well...Dan

 

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I think this one is just about the final version of dial 1, what do you think Ralf? and others? **The minute marks are not accurate, just a representation, the dial maker will need to make sure they are on the mark.

is it possible to get a second hand painted like this?


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SBD wrote: soopah wrote:

Yeah, this is the one I want, don't change anything, I think I prefer this bezel with the lume, too. Once you have the Moray production finalized I suppose you can start getting samples for this run, and then the pre-order can start! :)

Can I get #42???

This one really does it for me too!  Awesome work! yourock.gif

My Favorite design so far watch2.gif

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AND THIS WILL BE THE DIAL #1
 maybe we add a red MEGALODON

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SBD wrote: soopah wrote:

Yeah, this is the one I want, don't change anything, I think I prefer this bezel with the lume, too. Once you have the Moray production finalized I suppose you can start getting samples for this run, and then the pre-order can start! :)

Can I get #42???

This one really does it for me too!  Awesome work! yourock.gif

My Favorite design so far watch2.gif

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looks awesome and adding "Megalodon" in red on the dial would be the icing on the cake imo hand6.gif...Congrats Ralf on another awesome watch perfect.gif

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I got the suggestions in a higher quality
  btw it will be 500m not 600m






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those are nice! great work.

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Look nice.  I don't like the Roman numerals, but otherwise awesome!

I have lost track with the changes.  What is the production run and estimated price on these?

 

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I can tell you next week when I got the quotation and when I know if the bracelet is possible.


jasontking wrote: Look nice.  I don't like the Roman numerals, but otherwise awesome!

I have lost track with the changes.  What is the production run and estimated price on these?

 

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I love dial 1 and I like the white faced on Steve came up with. I also like the ones you just posted Ralf, Especially the red faced one and the 20 minute marker tics on the bezel, I have seen those on the higher end dive watches and like it better then the standard 15 min marker tics on the average bezel.

This is going to be a tough choice. Defnitely getting dial #1 but I want one of the dial #2 lol..

Great work so far guys!!!

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very nice. I don't like the roman numerals either, not on the mega. If you could do a black dial on this design, it would look great, with the lume and stainless bezel, very nice.

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Dial #1 looks great!  I know if has been finalized now but wanted to see what everyone thought of adding the Megalodon in red directly under the Benarus (as Ralf suggested) and then including the word "Automatic" and depth rating "500m" that are depicted on the lastest renderings? Drawing attention to the ETA seems like a good idea.

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I would love to have the Megaladon in Red on the dial #1

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 I guess this would be ok for everybody and I also like it very much

Dragnattck wrote: I would love to have the Megaladon in Red on the dial #1

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good ideas. I will post a dial with more wording on the dial soon.

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Steve,

Please try a variation on this theme ... replace dots w/ smaller teeth, replace lume dashes w/ 3  6  12,  change chapter ring to black lume and gray seconds marks.   Change bezel to traditional diver bezel  15, 30, 45.

Second variation -- use the blue dial shown, but use the lume ring version from earlier...I believe it was on of Ralf's designs.  smile8.gif

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Could you sign me up for a dial 1 version with #21 ?

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I would like to say Dial #1 rocks.......awesome-awesome-awesome.......hand6.gif



Here are my choices in numerical order.  The first pic is really kewl looking and I think the white/lume dial get's it done.  

 1.



Pic #2   I like everything but the Dial color it's just not talking to me, if I could see another Dial color, what about yellow with black & red hands-tip the second hand in blue.....?  Just a thought.

 

2.



The last 5 pics, I think they look ugly, just my opinion.

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  btw it will be 500m not 600m







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Red letters are too close to the shade of the grey dial so it causes the eyes to strain and the letters to vibrate, see 2nd example. the words will be much easier to read if they are black grey or white. my GSAR has AUTOMATIC in red and I can barely see it. The real life dial may be better, but I doubt it, I would stay away from red letters. I think it also takes away from the red minute hand.

oops, no lume ring on these, I will repost!! done 8:25pm CDST USA



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Ralf - I think this design is very good. As someone quoted in past few days "it is refined, functional, unique and yet has "classic " Blancpain styling.  My only suggestion would be that the numbers on the dial are'nt  necessary and only cramps the look.

I have a glycine lagunare, and while a solid diving watch, its lacks the minute markers that provide functionality. Also the makers on the bezel are prone to getting knocked / rubbed off.  This design addresses both. 

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Okay, who ever designed this... I will place an order tomorrow, perhaps for enough for my entire family.  This is the best looking design of any watch I have seen, ever.  Absolutely, the best, most outstanding, refined, design.  Function.  Legible.  Strength.  This is simply unbelievable.  Congratulations !!!  I want one, two, may be 4 of these!



 

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Ralf & Steve -- I just have to reiterate that is absolutely outstanding!!!  I don't know of any watch that has numbers at the positions 1 2 4  5  7  8  11.  This is certain to shake up the industry.  600 meters -- perhaps another first !!!    I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT !!!  You've got the hour markers showing through the lume ring... the numbers popping off the dial. This has got it all. 

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Okay, who ever designed this... I will place an order tomorrow, perhaps for enough for my entire family.  This is the best looking design of any watch I have seen, ever.  Absolutely, the best, most outstanding, refined, design.  Function.  Legible.  Strength.  This is simply unbelievable.  Congratulations !!!  I want one, two, may be 4 of these!



 

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Please crop those GIANT photos down, 1 post takes up an entire page!!!

Here is a yellow Dial for Teddy!

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I agree with these comments although still think the numbers on dial aren't necessary now (because of the visible teeth at hours 3, 6, 9 and 12 do the job perfectly).  Makes for a cleaner look.

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Montauk wrote: Ralf & Steve -- I just have to reiterate that is absolutely outstanding!!!  I don't know of any watch that has numbers at the positions 1 2 4  5  7  8  11.  This is certain to shake up the industry.  600 meters -- perhaps another first !!!    I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT !!!  You've got the hour markers showing through the lume ring... the numbers popping off the dial. This has got it all. 

Montauk wrote:
Okay, who ever designed this... I will place an order tomorrow, perhaps for enough for my entire family.  This is the best looking design of any watch I have seen, ever.  Absolutely, the best, most outstanding, refined, design.  Function.  Legible.  Strength.  This is simply unbelievable.  Congratulations !!!  I want one, two, may be 4 of these!



 



Actually, I have a watch that has numbers at the 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, and 11 o'clock positions.  They are not that uncommon.  Just look up the Citizen BM6400.  I wanted to insert and image but I don't know how to.

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Here is an orange dial...

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Ralf - I think this design is very good.


Which Design?

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Here it is.


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I really like the yellow & orange dials, man they look really kewl.  Steve I like how wide the inter chapter ring is and I can go with megalodon on the dial or off.

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Here is an orange dial...


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white without numbers.

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I would prefer the mega be left off the dial and put on the caseback. I think a cleaner dial with just Benarus, automatic, and 500m would be my choice, very classy.

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Apologies Steve.

As someone quoted in past few days this design is "refined, functional, unique and yet has 'classic' Blancpain styling".  My only suggestion would be that the use of "numbers" or "markers" at 10 minute intervals on the dial are not necessary as they only and only cramp the look (ie. dont make it too cluttered).

I have a glycine lagunare, and while a solid diving watch, its lacks the minute markers that provide functionality. Also the makers on the bezel are prone to getting knocked / rubbed off.  This design addresses both. Regards,

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Just wanted to point out this thread is getting a bit confusing.   There are a lot of designs and input which is good but I am getting lost.   When people say a particular design is good sometimes I dont even know which design they are referring to.  Could we maybe assign letters or numbers?  Just a suggestion.

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Lets throw in some designs and I will start a poll when I know more about the price and bracelet. till now we collect ideas,
you are right this thread is very long and probably confusing now

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Just wanted to point out this thread is getting a bit confusing.   There are a lot of designs and input which is good but I am getting lost.   When people say a particular design is good sometimes I dont even know which design they are referring to.  Could we maybe assign letters or numbers?  Just a suggestion.

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I will make some smaller images of all the dial ideas and put numbers on them, and put them all on 1 post.

Maybe we should start a new thread called "Megalodon Dial Designs" :shock:

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Steve Laughlin wrote: I will make some smaller images of all the dial ideas and put numbers on them, and put them all on 1 post.

Maybe we should start a new thread called "Megalodon Dial Designs" :shock:

Um ... yeah.

I mean, 'yes please' :P

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Ralf -- please include this one in the poll.  This design is absolutely perfect, unique, functional and "timeless".  Thanks, Jim


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Jim, I will put it on the new page "Megalodon Dial designs" the page hasn't been created yet. but will be later today.

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I am still in for #37 of the 1st dial design!

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I agree with Jim on this deisgn. My only suggestion (as previously referenced) would be to de-clutter the dial by deleting the "numbers" at 10 minute intervals. They are not necessary and take away from the clean look of the "teeth".

Regards,

Jo

 

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Steve Laughlin wrote: I will make some smaller images of all the dial ideas and put numbers on them, and put them all on 1 post.

Maybe we should start a new thread called "Megalodon Dial Designs" :shock:

Um ... yeah.

I mean, 'yes please' :P

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I agree with Jim on this deisgn. My only suggestion (as previously referenced) would be to de-clutter the dial by deleting the "numbers" at 10 minute intervals. They are not necessary and take away from the clean look of the "teeth".

Regards,

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Jomay --

Remember this is huge dial 47mm case, and that is a lot of landscape to fill... my opinion, the numbers really add to the design, and increase legibility 100%.  It is also, very unique. I can't think of anyone who builds a watch with numbers in the positions shown. 

The White Dial Without Numbers is also very nice.... I prefer the numbers though. 

Jim

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hello jim, hello all the others at the 3t-forum!

first of all:
im a complete "newbie" when it comes to the contribution in a forum.
furthermore english is not my mothertongue, so it's quite demanding to
exactly express my thoughts and get the right "tune" for the communication
here, not to mention some "cultural clashs" that my occur from time to time.
but i'll do my best - and i apologize now & for the future in case i
accidentally get misunderstood or offend someone.

yes, i did the design of that dial (and bezel and the variations with red, light olivegreen, warm grey and roman numerals - and these designs are "rough sketches, there needs to be done a lot more on the details). it's my first "watch-design" ever and im really flattered by the positive feedback and accolade (mostly by jim: thank you so much, i really appreciate that, my ego too! but honestly: blancpain that's another universe - the 50 fathoms is a real masterpiece of timeless sportive elegance, and the numbers thing is quite common on chronographs with three counters) and i do gratefully accept all critics, because i always want to do better (...the pursuit of perfection, which will - thankfully - never be accomplished).

i'm a graphic designer (mainly for packaging (food) and corporate design (logo, identity...)) so i always look for challenges that demand my talent.

i share with you the "almost unhealthy" interest in watches and i'm a happy and satisfied customer of ralf ((3 sea devils, 2 blasted w. white lume (one with red second hand one with black second hand - yeahh strange, but i couldn't make a clear decision about the red so i took them both; 1 brushed w. black dial).
these watches are "awesome" (you love that word, right? ;-) ). i love them and have a smile every time i look at my wrist (...and i usually do not smile when it comes to time, which always melts away too fast) - the clear design which does not distract my eyes, the nice numbers the reliable, robust and heavy construction of case and bracelet, the "half-of-a-porc"-leather strap - all that at a very, very low price - can you ask for more?
...and the white lume really is: awesome (...i have to admit this word is quite addictive ;-) ). thank you ralf & steve for these special timepieces - my new "daily rockers"!

i would love to do more designs for the megalodon-project (and future projects), but as some of you already mentioned, this thread gets somehow confusing and i don't want to confuse this whole thing even more. if you  - ralf and steve - want me to, i will be very happy to share my designs and contribute here. problem is always: time, wife, two kids and a cat need to be feeded occasionally, therefore i have to use most part of my lifetime in order to "earn some bucks" - means: if i find some time and a muse is kissing me gently i will design many more watches. (...and my pics shall never be that gigantic again, sorry for that - i'm used to big pictures, you get more of the details).

thanx for your patience reading this
(...my next posts will be shorter)

have a nice weekend
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tempus fugit wrote:

hello jim, hello all the others at the 3t-forum!

first of all:
im a complete "newbie" when it comes to the contribution in a forum.
furthermore english is not my mothertongue, so it's quite demanding to
exactly express my thoughts and get the right "tune" for the communication
here, not to mention some "cultural clashs" that my occur from time to time.
but i'll do my best - and i apologize now & for the future in case i
accidentally get misunderstood or offend someone.

yes, i did the design of that dial (and bezel and the variations with red, light olivegreen, warm grey and roman numerals - and these designs are "rough sketches, there needs to be done a lot more on the details). it's my first "watch-design" ever and im really flattered by the positive feedback and accolade (mostly by jim: thank you so much, i really appreciate that, my ego too! but honestly: blancpain that's another universe - the 50 fathoms is a real masterpiece of timeless sportive elegance, and the numbers thing is quite common on chronographs with three counters) and i do gratefully accept all critics, because i always want to do better (...the pursuit of perfection, which will - thankfully - never be accomplished).

i'm a graphic designer (mainly for packaging (food) and corporate design (logo, identity...)) so i always look for challenges that demand my talent.

i share with you the "almost unhealthy" interest in watches and i'm a happy and satisfied customer of ralf ((3 sea devils, 2 blasted w. white lume (one with red second hand one with black second hand - yeahh strange, but i couldn't make a clear decision about the red so i took them both; 1 brushed w. black dial).
these watches are "awesome" (you love that word, right? ;-) ). i love them and have a smile every time i look at my wrist (...and i usually do not smile when it comes to time, which always melts away too fast) - the clear design which does not distract my eyes, the nice numbers the reliable, robust and heavy construction of case and bracelet, the "half-of-a-porc"-leather strap - all that at a very, very low price - can you ask for more?
...and the white lume really is: awesome (...i have to admit this word is quite addictive ;-) ). thank you ralf & steve for these special timepieces - my new "daily rockers"!

i would love to do more designs for the megalodon-project (and future projects), but as some of you already mentioned, this thread gets somehow confusing and i don't want to confuse this whole thing even more. if you  - ralf and steve - want me to, i will be very happy to share my designs and contribute here. problem is always: time, wife, two kids and a cat need to be feeded occasionally, therefore i have to use most part of my lifetime in order to "earn some bucks" - means: if i find some time and a muse is kissing me gently i will design many more watches. (...and my pics shall never be that gigantic again, sorry for that - i'm used to big pictures, you get more of the details).

thanx for your patience reading this
(...my next posts will be shorter)

have a nice weekend
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Stef.,

Thanks for all your AWESOME work on the Megaladon, and your great message.   I hope that there will be enough votes, and that we will be able realize Ralf's great execution of your design.

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from one newbie and watchaholic to another, welcome.
Your creativity and talents are much appreciated.

I am very happy I found this place as well. I have been collecting for a few years, from high to low, and have never been satisfied. I finally feel excited about a watch again, being in on the development of Ralf's watches. It is a great thing to have input and see the watch come to life. I visit here daily and have become a big Benarus fan.

Keep it up guys, and thanks for making the hobby exciting again. thankyou.gif

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Good job Stef, there is alot of input here from all the 3Ter's to put these beautiful watches together as a working timepiece, Thanks for all your effort, and welcome aboard.....Dan

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Montauk wrote: Jomay --

Remember this is huge dial 47mm case, and that is a lot of landscape to fill... my opinion, the numbers really add to the design, and increase legibility 100%.  It is also, very unique. I can't think of anyone who builds a watch with numbers in the positions shown. 

The White Dial Without Numbers is also very nice.... I prefer the numbers though. 

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Jim - I hear you on the numbers. The teeth (as 3, 6, 8 and 12 hour markers) are so important in the design of this watch, it looks cleaner without the numbers. Is it possible to have one design with numbers and one without, as is the case the Moray?
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Excellent work Stef. You certainly have a great eye for designing watches.

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jomay wrote:


Jim - I hear you on the numbers. The teeth (as 3, 6, 8 and 12 hour markers) are so important in the design of this watch, it looks cleaner without the numbers. Is it possible to have one design with numbers and one without, as is the case the Moray?
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exactly. this design was a break from tradition, and in my opinion, a break from what might be looked at as classy or dressy. this was a radical, aggressive idea, about teeth and size, and chunky metal. slowly the designs seem to have drifted back to what is not so edgy.

Stef, Your work is good and clean. If you would like to throw in more designs, please do!

I am looking forward to dial #1 in production and think that dial #2 should have similar characteristics and should look like it is part of the Megalodon Family.

Steve

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Is this dial #1????, and is it a go on this with a 2nd dial option???? It's getting more and more confusing as it progresses. Another month of this and the whole concept will be lost in the sauce. My dos centavos.

 


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The watches are different, yes...but both would be in the same massive Megalodon case, movement, crown, case back, bracelet, hands, and same choice of bezels. 
Steve's design could be the "MEGALODON" and Stef's the "MEG II"

I believe this is Steve's MEGALODON w/ black dial, and Stef's "MEG II" in khaki w/ numbers on the dial.  I think there may be a third variation with white dial.  Either way or both, these are great designs, and both Steve and Stef deserve a lot of thanks for their awesome work.  Tough choice, but in the end my personal preference goes to Stef, only because I have been trending towards the sports look, and I really think that during the day, I will be able to read the time at a simple glance. You know, real easy to see 5 o'clock time to go home!

 



Note: the watches are supposed to be the same size 47 mm... I am simply copying and pasting from earlier posts.  So remember, the watches are supposed to be the same size.



 

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A simple yes or no,was the answer, and here it is complicated with more rhetoric, Is this DIAL #1,  please check box  YES or NO

 


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yes that is Dial #1

and Dial #2 has not been selected or voted on, and their may be more designs entered for ideas on design #2 so please share your thoughts for dial #2

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Dial #1 is absolutley outstanding...Stef's proposed Dial #2, in my opinion, is too far removed from #1 and the entire Megalodon concept.  Stef's are nice to be sure but they are not what I perceive as Megalodon.  My 2 cents. 

This thread should be closed now that the final design of Dial #1 is completed and another thread started for Dial #2.

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Thank you Steve, That's your design if I'm not mistaken, and that's the one I want, I couldn't have done Dial#1 better myself, as far as another dial option, I am really not interested in another dial for this watch, It's a perfect match as it sits, Hopefully the hands will be the same as well, I like the the Red  Minute as well and the Red Pointer on the second hand, I am going to sit back on this because it has gotten carried away IMHO. Is the ETA still in there as well? Price still around 5? I appreciate you clarifying this before I just give up and buy another Sumo....DanSteve Laughlin wrote: yes that is Dial #1

and Dial #2 has not been selected or voted on, and their may be more designs entered for ideas on design #2 so please share your thoughts for dial #2

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romeo-1 wrote: Dial #1 is absolutley outstanding...Stef's proposed Dial #2, in my opinion, is too far removed from #1 and the entire Megalodon concept.  Stef's are nice to be sure but they are not what I perceive as Megalodon.  My 2 cents. 

This thread should be closed now that the final design of Dial #1 is completed and another thread started for Dial #2.

I agree.....although the second design is great....it is to far removed from the original concept of the open "jaw" design. The second dial design is worthy of a whole new watch "series". It is too far from the original "Megalodon" vision. I will raise your two cents to four. Or maybe this shark bit down on an oil drum and lost all of its teeth.........what..it could happenBouncy.gif

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My sentiments EXACTLY, It's just gotten carried away again, not remotely close to the Megalodon concept of BIG TOOTH. Another thread for additional dials for the megalodon is in order here. HELP OSCAR!!!!!!!!

romeo-1 wrote:
Dial #1 is absolutley outstanding...Stef's proposed Dial #2, in my opinion, is too far removed from #1 and the entire Megalodon concept.  Stef's are nice to be sure but they are not what I perceive as Megalodon.  My 2 cents. 

This thread should be closed now that the final design of Dial #1 is completed and another thread started for Dial #2.

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I don't remember what "Dial #1" is... :?

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Guys this thread has been fantastic I have really enjoyed it.  A lot of great ideas have been throw ed out on the table.  That's what makes 3T so special, are vendors are able to put information out and receive in return, with no shackles.  This thread has gained a ton of positive support out in the wis community and that's what we want to do, is support Ralf & Benarus (you rock Ralf). 

Ralf stated he wanted to collect ideas, so thats what were doing, even though the thread is long be patience I'm sure Steve is in the process of creating a new thread, like he stated.  I say we follow what Ralf has instructed and keep posting new ideas.

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like Teddy said...this is one of the best threads I can remember in years and all of you have shown just how well a group of WIS can be without any moderation!....when the second Megalodon designs are in I am sure Ralf will start a poll as to which will be the choice so in the meantime enjoy the comradory and awesome concepts that are being offered....confusing at time but nonetheless productive...right now this is the most popular thread about watches on the entire web! ...it's like the old cliffhangers...I can't wait to see what's coming up next!party.gif

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May I be so bold to suggest that the new thread that is upcoming for the Megaladon's second dial design begin with a small thumbnail gallery of previously-posted Mega 2 designs (with corresponding numbers) that we are still referencing from. That way when we post, we can reference by stating the sample number without loading the thread with the same images again.

I agree with Teddy... this has been a fantastic thread that has attracted new blood to 3T, and Steve has done a fantastic job of creating a vision that we all have been drawn to— and can easily build from to create the Mega 2 dial... kudos to you Steve!!!


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I do believe that was what I was wanting to say earlier. Maybe that is why I work in construction and am not a  not a writer!!! I Especially agree with that part about Steve.

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I don't remember what "Dial #1" is... :?

It is posted right above, please look on page 29... or below thanks suitekids!

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I got confirmation earlier that this is Dial #1 from Steve, as the staff here has stated, there will be more dial configurations as well posted on this thread, which is cool, I was confused on what to get myself, obviously to date there is no #2, just great ideas kicking around for now, listing more dial options. Now that it's been clarified it's easier to make a decision from there.

 


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I will post small thumbnails of all ideas for design #2 in a new thread. just need to get to it. I had a lot going on this week and a busy weekend, so maybe tonight when the kids are asleep I can get to it. Thanks for your patients everyone. -steve

and I will assign them numbers. Thanks for the tip.

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Steve Laughlin wrote: I will post small thumbnails of all ideas for design #2 in a new thread. just need to get to it. I had a lot going on this week and a busy weekend, so maybe tonight when the kids are asleep I can get to it. Thanks for your patients everyone. -steve

and I will assign them numbers. Thanks for the tip.


Your rockin Steve. ;)

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I've had to be away from the forum for awhile and am just now catching up, so clue me in if I've missed something, but I'm confused.

If you create a second design, aren't you in effect creating a second watch . . . a watch with a separate and distinct personality and character?

I think I'd be more interested in this offering if I knew there was going to be a new watch created with a singular, well-defined and unique look -- the Megalodon look -- rather than a "line" of two watches sharing the same case and some other common characteristics.

IMHO, Steve has nailed the Megalodon look with his design. Throw in some hand and/or dial color variations and finish options, and you've got all the customization you could ask for.

It appears some of you have a lot invested in the idea of a second design so please don't take offense . . . it's just one person's observation.

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I actually agree with you sooner76, I believe Steve nailed it with his #1 concept. Offering various dial colors and hand colors creates a nice, complete offering.

My only problem is with the hands (personally I believe they don't fit the design, since they are "straight to point" in design, while the entire watch is "arc to point". I also believe these current hands scream "Seiko Velatura!" which is not a draw for me at all.

I know that there would be an additional expense to make a hand change at this point for Ralf, (he told me so), but I'd be more inclined to pay the additional cost at purchase to get a set of hands that carry the Megladon's "beveled-point tooth" theme. If I have some time later, I'll post a hand design sample that would be a better fit IMHO.

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I totally agree with you guys above. I think dial #2 should have the same chapter ring with teeth, and what can change is the dial underneath that is brushed steel could be swapped for white lume or carbon fiber or something, and that would be dial #2.

then the 2 Megalodons are from the same series and share a look.... like the sea devil family.

I have been creating dial options for others and I think it is ok to explore ideas, the good ones can be used in the future I would think, but I do agree about keeping these 2 dials similar to the original Megalodon concept.

Just my thoughts as a designer, like Stef, I am also a professional graphic designer, graduated back in 1999 with a BFA in Graphic Design from KSU.

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sounds like this may get back on track. It would be nice to get some comment from Ralf. I think the original concept and design, with variations in hands, dial colors, and bezel options is the way to go. hand6.gif
Awesome thread though. :D

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glad to hear from you guys, we need everyones input. 100 people will have one of these watches and we are only getting strong input from a few, I think I will do some variations on Dial #1 and post them with all the other dial 2 ideas... in that new thread... that might start tonight.... probably around 9pm Central time USA.... watch for it!!

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Steve Laughlin wrote: glad to hear from you guys, we need everyones input. 100 people will have one of these watches and we are only getting strong input from a few, I think I will do some variations on Dial #1 and post them with all the other dial 2 ideas... in that new thread... that might start tonight.... probably around 9pm Central time USA.... watch for it!!

Steve
No no...leave dial #1 as is...I would be plunking down some serious cash for this design right now!perfect.gif

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Earlier....many posts ago....Steve had a concept with carbon fiber that looked pretty cool. Maybe an option with the same blue carbon design as the Barracuda. One could be black ...one could be blue...depending on whether you were inside looking out or outside looking in( the sharks jaws)

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Romeo - dial 1 stays. I am saying dial 1 stays and dial 2 should be very similar, but different colors. I am starting to work right now, so will try and make sense of it all and start a new post in the next 30 minutes. -steve

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sparkii76 wrote:
Earlier....many posts ago....Steve had a concept with carbon fiber that looked pretty cool. Maybe an option with the same blue carbon design as the Barracuda. One could be black ...one could be blue...depending on whether you were inside looking out or outside looking in( the sharks jaws)

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I will pull that one back up for the dial 2 options.

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Steve Laughlin wrote:
I think dial #2 should have the same chapter ring with teeth, and what can change is the dial underneath that is brushed steel could be swapped for white lume or carbon fiber or something, and that would be dial #2. then the 2 Megalodons are from the same series and share a look.... like the sea devil family.

Bingo!

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thanks. I am working on putting it all together right now. might take another 30-40 minutes. -steve

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A new thread to keep this topic going!!... Dial #2 DESIGN IDEAS...

http://www.timetechtalk.com/view_topic.php?id=15979&forum_id=51

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Any update on actual specs. price point and possible pre-order date?  Sorry to be anxious but this will be the watch for me!!

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romeo-1 wrote: Any update on actual specs. price point and possible pre-order date?  Sorry to be anxious but this will be the watch for me!!

reading the threads or being active usually helps :D

http://www.timetechtalk.com/view_topic.php?id=15733&forum_id=51

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oagaspar wrote: romeo-1 wrote: Any update on actual specs. price point and possible pre-order date?  Sorry to be anxious but this will be the watch for me!!

reading the threads or being active usually helps :D

http://www.timetechtalk.com/view_topic.php?id=15733&forum_id=51
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here is an update, let Ralf know if you are serious about committing to this one...

http://www.timetechtalk.com/view_topic.php?id=16026&forum_id=51


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