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Hexagonal sockets on screws for lugs: Avoid screwdriver fear... | Rate Topic |
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Posted: Thu Jan 28th, 2010 02:49 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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This little topic is offcourse speaking of screw bars/pins for lugs: We will maybe avoid the spring bars/pins discution as they are not subjective to be manipulated with a different screwdriver tip;) We been speaking for a while about scratches/rips on lugs or even worst...On cases:shock: Yes we like to change often straps as they give a new look or character to the identity of our watches but sometimes, shacky hands, bad tools or simply uneasy systems on screw bars/pins can cause ugly scars... So we came out with tricks like teflon tape, paint masking tape and others... Still: Why fabricants are using so often straight/slotted gaps on the head of the screws? The esthetic? The flat screwdriver is thin and easy to come out of his place. The torque applied by repetitive in/out screwing got a tendense to deform the straight screw gaps:( Your screwdriver can even "drill" it's way around the lug's hole if slightly coming out of it's place... Nobody's perfect and it certainly happened to many of us... We don't meet this problem with hexagonal sockets on screws: The tool stay in place and you don't break a sweat when approching your watch with it... I propose hexagonal tips but other ideas are welcome! Are you agree? Well, let's hear your meanings folks and thank you for reading!
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Posted: Thu Jan 28th, 2010 05:00 pm |
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Edgel 3T WIS
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I agree, William. At the very least, phillips head screws and those screw bars with screws on each end have no place on a watch,IMHO!
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Posted: Thu Jan 28th, 2010 05:02 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Oh yeah...The screws on both ends: I had forgot those: Welcome to double hell...:?
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Posted: Thu Jan 28th, 2010 07:54 pm |
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Natevan70 Guest
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All of my watches have slotted screws; but I'd switch 'em all to hex or Torx given the chance.
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Posted: Fri Jan 29th, 2010 06:58 am |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS
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Agree with William, 100%.hand6.gif I noticed that not all 316L are the same...yes, they say 316L and they're also supposed to be of the same tensile strength, surface hardness etc etc but somehow the hardness of the steel may vary from maker to maker. So, for cheaper watches I always use cheaper screwdrivers so that the softness of the case/screwhead matches with the relative softness of the cheaper screwdriver. But for the more expensive watches with robust and hard 316L and most likely, better screw heads, I use my Bergeons. Of course, I still use tape for surface protection. I may be the only one noticing this or is it simply that I am trapped by the price-to-relative-quality psychological ratios?
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Posted: Fri Jan 29th, 2010 07:42 am |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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I didn't specialy experienced stainless steel hardness differences like you Jeff: But Again, you got a wider range of quality watches than me and older experience than me for sure... But I constated it on tools I was using on the job: Yes, there's a difference between those steels. But It can come from many parameters: Even I'm not a science-head in metalurgy, I know that heating&cooling differences as well as carbon presence in different levels, can affect the steel. I got my favorites tool companies: As I prefer them quality who last and don't fail you with normal use. I know that the steel made of the iron from Kiruna(north Sweden) is TOP quality: I lived 5 years in the town from where it's shiped, Narvik(Norway)... You need a case made from this same steel Jeff;) Here's a link for the interested:http://wikimapia.org/13584265/Kiruna-Iron-Ore-Mine
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Posted: Fri Jan 29th, 2010 11:15 am |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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Hex screws are my favorite. ;) hand6.gifhand6.gif
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Posted: Fri Jan 29th, 2010 01:42 pm |
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Janner 3T WIS
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I don't own any watches with hex screw bars, but it would seem to be a sensible alternative to slotted screws. I know the Benarus Megalodon has hex screws fitted, how many other companies make use of these?
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Posted: Fri Jan 29th, 2010 02:10 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Janner wrote:I don't own any watches with hex screw bars, but it would seem to be a sensible alternative to slotted screws. The Funfhundert from Kazimon got Hex. screws also. It's still a rare design I think: Majorities are slotted... When you look at it, a slotted screw is much more easy to manufacture than an hexagonal: You just need to make a "cut" it the head... I think that maybe the cost got something to do with it: But I am not watchmaker or brand-owner and I can't be sure of that... It would be very interesting to get the point of view from a brand or watchmaker in this thread. So if one of you guys read this, please put your meanings!
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