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 Posted: Sat Jul 27th, 2013 11:15 am
   
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^I hate PayPal, its far easier to get reimbursed through your credit card IMO.

Here's another quotes from Makara

A: We only accept payment via Stripe, our credit card payment processor. Payment by credit card is safer and simpler for everyone since it allows 100% refunds without fees up to 6 months after the transaction (compared to 60 days for PayPal), in the event that you cancel your pre-order, or if the watch doesn't go to production. It also protects us from fraudulent PayPal payments and you are protected from fraudulent charges up to 6 months after the transaction (45 days with PayPal). In 6 months from now, all watches will have been delivered.

Watches are a passion of mine and I'm here to build a long-lasting business. I have ideas for many other models and I need to build a good reputation if I want to continue doing this. I have an habit of over-delivering to make people extra happy!

If this is not enough to earn your trust, think of it this way: if I don't deliver an awesome watch within the next 6 months, you can call your bank at anytime and file a chargeback, you'll have your money back no-questions-asked! :p

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 Posted: Sat Jul 27th, 2013 11:56 am
   
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OMG you act like this watch is the best watch to come along in ages!...take a good look at the case,any experienced WIS can see it is not well made...it's cast not machined,and look into Stripe and you will see plenty of complaints since they started in 2010...mistake.gif
If this is not enough to earn your trust, think of it this way: if I don't deliver an awesome watch within the next 6 months, you can call your bank at anytime and file a chargeback, you'll have your money back no-questions-asked!
what about just asking him for a refund?...
I personally have never had a problem with Paypal which I have used on 100's of transactions.

watches are a passion of mine is easy to say...let's see your collection,hell who is this guy,does anyone know,does anyone want to vouch for him?dog smile.gif

like I have said previously Luminated...buy the watch based on your years of experienece..but again....pass on the pre-order and wait,you will see plenty FS on the sales forum if they ever come to fruition,and that is all we have been saying since the get go...nuff said.ThumbsUp02.gif


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 Posted: Sat Jul 27th, 2013 12:32 pm
   
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^Mate all I did was post a link to a new brand that was starting on the market, I naively thought others would have been as happy as I to see someone making a business out of his passion for watches. We all know it isn't going to be a Rolex at these prices but everyone has to start somewhere and in my opinion at the budget side of the market is probably best.

I have no real dealing with PayPal but after reading the problems many have had regarding Olivier I feel Credit Card is a better option.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 27th, 2013 12:43 pm
   
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Luminated wrote: ^Mate all I did was post a link to a new brand that was starting on the market, I naively thought others would have been as happy as I to see someone making a business out of his passion for watches. We all know it isn't going to be a Rolex at these prices but everyone has to start somewhere and in my opinion at the budget side of the market is probably best.

I have no real dealing with PayPal but after reading the problems many have had regarding Olivier I feel Credit Card is a better option.
Rolex?...perhaps Invicta! dog smile.gif
I give up,apparently you know this chap and have witnessed 1st hand his passion for watches.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 27th, 2013 01:21 pm
   
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oagaspar wrote:
Luminated wrote: ^Mate all I did was post a link to a new brand that was starting on the market, I naively thought others would have been as happy as I to see someone making a business out of his passion for watches. We all know it isn't going to be a Rolex at these prices but everyone has to start somewhere and in my opinion at the budget side of the market is probably best.

I have no real dealing with PayPal but after reading the problems many have had regarding Olivier I feel Credit Card is a better option.
Rolex?...perhaps Invicta! dog smile.gif
I give up,apparently you know this chap and have witnessed 1st hand his passion for watches.



Don't know him only PMed him a few times but I do like to give someone the benefit of the doubt rather than being a sceptic from the off.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 27th, 2013 01:30 pm
   
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Luminated wrote: oagaspar wrote:
Luminated wrote: ^Mate all I did was post a link to a new brand that was starting on the market, I naively thought others would have been as happy as I to see someone making a business out of his passion for watches. We all know it isn't going to be a Rolex at these prices but everyone has to start somewhere and in my opinion at the budget side of the market is probably best.

I have no real dealing with PayPal but after reading the problems many have had regarding Olivier I feel Credit Card is a better option.
Rolex?...perhaps Invicta! dog smile.gif
I give up,apparently you know this chap and have witnessed 1st hand his passion for watches.



Don't know him only PMed him a few times but I do like to give someone the benefit of the doubt rather than being a sceptic from the off.
the benefit of a doubt should not involve you giving him your hard earned money... that is something he only benefits from my friend...

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 Posted: Sat Jul 27th, 2013 02:20 pm
   
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From what I've seen or reading to say it so, Nadim don't seem to be a WIS to me.
It's just another way to make business from some project: I don't think that you would have seen him dealing with watches if his camera supports would have worked big time.
And if he was a WIS, he would have pointed his nose on forums long ago like we nearly all do.
Personally, that it works out or be a flop with his watch: I couldn't care less than I do today.
I've turned my back long ago to watches made, built, assembled in China: It's a NONO for me, whatever the price.
Because in 5 Chinese watches at 400$, I see 1 Swiss/German watch at 2000$ I will enjoy REALLY more than those.
Question of priority and vision.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 27th, 2013 05:43 pm
   
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oagaspar wrote:
Luminated wrote: oagaspar wrote:
Luminated wrote: ^Mate all I did was post a link to a new brand that was starting on the market, I naively thought others would have been as happy as I to see someone making a business out of his passion for watches. We all know it isn't going to be a Rolex at these prices but everyone has to start somewhere and in my opinion at the budget side of the market is probably best.

I have no real dealing with PayPal but after reading the problems many have had regarding Olivier I feel Credit Card is a better option.
Rolex?...perhaps Invicta! dog smile.gif
I give up,apparently you know this chap and have witnessed 1st hand his passion for watches.



Don't know him only PMed him a few times but I do like to give someone the benefit of the doubt rather than being a sceptic from the off.
the benefit of a doubt should not involve you giving him your hard earned money... that is something he only benefits from my friend...


Lumtec, Halios, Crepas to name but a few all have been running a pre-sales system for long enough and I'm sure at the beginning many thought twice about handing over their hard earned cash but now no one would give it a second thought. It's a means to an end, you can gauge the interest prior to production and adjust accordingly if required, those willing to pay a deposit and wait get rewarded with discount, those unwilling to pay upfront don't.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 27th, 2013 06:50 pm
   
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Luminated wrote:
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Luminated wrote: oagaspar wrote:
Luminated wrote: ^Mate all I did was post a link to a new brand that was starting on the market, I naively thought others would have been as happy as I to see someone making a business out of his passion for watches. We all know it isn't going to be a Rolex at these prices but everyone has to start somewhere and in my opinion at the budget side of the market is probably best.

I have no real dealing with PayPal but after reading the problems many have had regarding Olivier I feel Credit Card is a better option.
Rolex?...perhaps Invicta! dog smile.gif
I give up,apparently you know this chap and have witnessed 1st hand his passion for watches.



Don't know him only PMed him a few times but I do like to give someone the benefit of the doubt rather than being a sceptic from the off.
the benefit of a doubt should not involve you giving him your hard earned money... that is something he only benefits from my friend...


Lumtec, Halios, Crepas to name but a few all have been running a pre-sales system for long enough and I'm sure at the beginning many thought twice about handing over their hard earned cash but now no one would give it a second thought. It's a means to an end, you can gauge the interest prior to production and adjust accordingly if required, those willing to pay a deposit and wait get rewarded with discount, those unwilling to pay upfront don't.


It seems that the difference between these guys and the one in question is that the folks here knew and trusted the people starting those watch brands before the pre-sale. There also seems to be a great deal of doubt that he can build a bronze watch for the asking price. My attitude remains the same; see what he comes up with first, then decide.

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 Posted: Sun Aug 4th, 2013 08:16 am
   
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Latest update from Makara

I'll reply to all the comments/questions in a moment. Just a quick pic for now, well 2 actually :P

First a finished dial. You'll notice the raised markers that the manufacturer agreed to do without increase in cost. BUT, they are plastic. I'm considering upgrading to polished stainless steel raised markers...



And, finally, a complete picture! It gives a good idea of what it will look like, although there are a few things that need to be fixed, like the mismatched lume (it will be the same lume on the bezel, dial, and hands), and some other details.

I also reckon that the orange minute hand isn't the best match with the brown dial. I might ask to have a sample hands set made in polished finish (silver color for the stainless case, gold color for the bronze case). I think this would match best with metal raised markers as well.

Of course, I'll consult with everyone who pre-ordered already, but I'm sure these will be welcome upgrades :) Everyone's feedback is also very welcome!

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