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| Posted: Sun Aug 25th, 2013 05:32 pm |
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Patrik72 3T WIS 
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Ok, so i have gone on about wanting to buy me an Armida A1 in bronze. Still want it pretty bad, and a Omega Speedmaster Pro. However im not made out of money and a third watch has now entered into my life. A TAG Heuer Link, the limited Senna version. (Model: CT5114). Only 1991 ever made, and i have been offerd the chance to buy one. (Yup, im a big F1 and Senna-fan). The TAG is a bit more expensive then a new A1 Bronze, but cheaper then an Speedy Pro. I can only spend my hard earned money on one of these watches this year. Please help me to reach a decision that wont give me any nightmares. Which one and why? (None will be held responsible for their advice).  Last edited on Sun Aug 25th, 2013 05:33 pm by Patrik72 |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25th, 2013 05:48 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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ask yourself...if all three were on a table and you were told you could have one,which would it be? Speedmaster Pro...everyone should own one,it is an iconic chronograph that never goes out of style,and of the 3 the only one that will retain it's value in the long run... 
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25th, 2013 07:40 pm |
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stew77 Admin 
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Well Patrik, I hear you saying you are a big F1 and Senna fan....so, maybe you already have a strong feeling about what's best for YOU (especially if you are pretty sure it's only going to be ONE watch through the rest of this year). I always say buy what appeals to you the most, and like the table analogy that Oscar laid out there above. On extremely limited models, I've found myself jumping when the item suddenly becomes available (especially if they never come up for sale in addition to being an LE). I personally really dig both the A1 Bronze and the Speedy Pro too, and would love to add both models at some point down the road. (Heck, I think if you hang out here long enough, you will ultimately end up adding them all at some point!  If it were me and it was only ONE watch this year, it would be the Speedy Pro for me...truly iconic watch with lots of cool history including the extreme development tests done later with NASA to qualify the watch for space exploration (and make mine the beautiful sapphire sandwich model so that I can enjoy looking at that gorgeous speedy calibre too!).
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26th, 2013 09:16 am |
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Patrik72 3T WIS
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Thank you both for the advice! The Speedy Pro. Im aware of its history and its a legendary watch. But they are easy to find and will probably never run out of stock. So i can bide my time. I want the Moonwatch with the manual movement. Going automatic would take away a part of its charm, for me. The TAG Heuer. The more i looked at it, i realized it wont make my top 10 list of beautiful watches. Great watch if one likes the design. But i cant spend my money on it just because its a LE and a tribute for Ayrton Senna. At least not now. Unless i find oil or gold in my backyard. ;) I could actually make a decision based on this and with your help. I will buy the Armida A1 Bronze, once its available in stock again. Really want one with a black dial. My sincere thanks to you both again.  /Patrik
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26th, 2013 03:51 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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On my side, I don't specialy fancy the Tags and I'm not a F1 fan either. The Speedmaster is a lot of watch for the price asked and you can´t compare watches housing 3 hands ETAs with the bomb-proof Lemania 1873. This said: The Tag will never become a big collector since Senna is just a legend among his fans as Schumacher etc... F1 don't have anything to say in watch value on the market. But if you are a big fan and want it, you should just buy it.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 27th, 2013 07:50 am |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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I'd approach the dilemna the way Oscar did....3 watches on the table. I never followed Tag and never ever will. The Armida A1 would be a good 2nd choice for its good showing in the watch forums.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 30th, 2013 03:11 pm |
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Patrik72 3T WIS
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Well im not a huge TAG fan either. There are only 2-3 TAG´s that i actually like, but they are all old watches. Just want to put this out there: Im not buying watches because im looking for a future investment. I dont care if it has a Swiss or Japanese movement, just as long as they are accurate for a normal everyday use. Also i must disagree with my Scandinavian neighbor. F1 and motorsport means alot for watches. Do you believe Rolex choose to be the mainsponsor for F1 just for fun? Many watchbrands have a rigorous past sponsoring in a variety of motorsports. Why? Because they sell more watches. :) A good example would be the TAG Heuer Monaco "Steve McQueen Edition". Dont take this the wrong way. I just dont agree with your way of shooting F1 down as nonsense. Would you buy a Rolex if they where Levis Jeans mainsponsor, and designed a "Denim 501 Limited Edition"? However, i can of course agree that F1 has not much in common with watches per sé. Just carbon, ceramic and a few other precious and rare metals. ;) But yes, Senna or Schumacher does not make a difference unless one is a fan. Only MS fans buy the Omega Speedmaster Micheal Schumacher Edition. I would not spend my money on it since im not a fan. You all have a good weekend! :)
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| Posted: Sat Aug 31st, 2013 06:47 am |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Patrik72 wrote:Well im not a huge TAG fan either. There are only 2-3 TAG´s that i actually like, but they are all old watches. When I say "F1 don't have anything to say in watch value on the market." I mean that the Schumacher as the Senna models are not those who are selling on top. I may have generalized but don't forget that F1 is not of interest for every men. Steeve Macqueen was a cinema legend: He popularized the car-chases on cinema with Bullit and was in other legendary movies. It's about the same phenomena with Paul Newman and the Rolex Daytona: Then again, an actor. A bit like the Bond watch phenomena: The cinema screen been helping a lot. Motor-sport is connected sometimes to watches and chronometers but get a look at the Panerai Ferrari models, Girard Perregaux Ferrari and so on: They sell often at lowest. The Speedmaster Schumacher is not a buks maker at all: It runs equal or lower compare to similar models in auctions. Often the down factor can be the logo on the dial like the Ferrari models: It's way to much for limited aficionados. Rolex is in the golf, the horses, polo, rallies, diving...Pretty much any high-buks sport because them customers are supposed to be rich sporty people who like adventure and risk. But Rolex is not about to sponsorize a guy like Ed Stafford: Ask yourself why... Other than that, F1 stamp don't make a watch selling more than another thing: It's the fame and the risk factors who does it and F1 don't have any monopole on that. The moon-watch has an history who is far beyond F1 or any earthly sport: That's what is selling. I personally don't give a damn about motor-sport so I may have my vision on that like you have yours. 
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| Posted: Sat Aug 31st, 2013 06:22 pm |
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Patrik72 3T WIS
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Dont worry, i get it! Btw, who is Ed Stafford? Im not arguing against Omegas Moonwatch. That watch has real history and it looks great. The point i was trying to make is that motorsport (and aviation) brings technology to the table that watchmakers sometimes use in their watches. They have more in common then just sponsoring and Special/Limited Edit versions of watches. Im not trying to change how you feel about motorsport. We all have different tastes, no matter if it is watches, music, movies or sport etc. We are all entitled to our own opinions. If you ever are passing through by my town, let me know and i´ll take you out go-carting and a beer for some watch-discussions. 
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| Posted: Sat Aug 31st, 2013 08:15 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Patrik72 wrote:Dont worry, i get it! Btw, who is Ed Stafford? Ed Stafford is an badass adventurer: He eats leech soup for breakfast and chop jaguars with his machete when he's bored... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Stafford Thanks for the invitation
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