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 Posted: Sun Feb 25th, 2007 01:03 pm
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Was wondering if anyone else had noticed that the Hirsch Liberty straps (or any other strap for that matter) can vary in width by up to 1 mm?  I have a 20mm brown strap that when fitted to 20mm lugs, has a gap of almost 1mm, allowing some of the spring bar to show (ok, I may be a little anal about that, but I hate it when that happens). 

This pic shows what I mean - the strap was marked as 20mm:


I have noticed it on one of my 24mm straps too - but for that one I was able to 'massage' the leather out a little to spread it and fill the gap.   Can't seem to do that for the smaller straps.

Just curious and wanted to start the first thread...;)
Steve

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 Posted: Sun Feb 25th, 2007 01:36 pm
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I have noticed differences in only that some watches lug widths are 19mm and 21mm and not a true 20mm:?
....my old Archimedes was 21mm and a 22mm strap fit nicelyhand6.gif I use a digi-caliper to measure all widths now before ordering...I have found most of the German manufacturers use the odd size lugs..19,21,23mm..which straps are not readily availablewatch2.gif

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 Posted: Sun Feb 25th, 2007 01:39 pm
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Good suggestion Oscar.  Funny thing is, I put another "20mm" strap on the Archimede and it fit perfectly! :shock:

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I have noticed differences in only that some watches lug widths are 19mm and 21mm and not a true 20mm:?
....my old Archimedes was 21mm and a 22mm strap fit nicelyhand6.gif I use a digi-caliper to measure all widths now before ordering...I have found most of the German manufacturers use the odd size lugs..19,21,23mm..which straps are not readily availablewatch2.gif

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 Posted: Sun Feb 25th, 2007 01:46 pm
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srh_pres wrote:
I've run into this myself!:D I have that Locman 1970 that came with a 23mm Lorica which I hate and have yet to find a decent strap that fits without some major surgery!!and finally picked up a 24mm Invicta Ostrich from Avery w/the quick change pins...removed the quick pins and it fit perfect when no other 22/24mm would fit!hand6.gif I guess some strap manufacturers are more generous than others:P:P I like my straps to fit "snug at the lug"  just like you do !snoopy1.gif Good suggestion Oscar.  Funny thing is, I put another "20mm" strap on the Archimede and it fit perfectly! :shock:

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I have noticed differences in only that some watches lug widths are 19mm and 21mm and not a true 20mm:?
....my old Archimedes was 21mm and a 22mm strap fit nicelyhand6.gif I use a digi-caliper to measure all widths now before ordering...I have found most of the German manufacturers use the odd size lugs..19,21,23mm..which straps are not readily availablewatch2.gif


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 Posted: Sun Feb 25th, 2007 01:54 pm
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"Snug at the lug" - my new mantra...  I like that...:D

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srh_pres wrote:
I've run into this myself!:D I have that Locman 1970 that came with a 23mm Lorica which I hate and have yet to find a decent strap that fits without some major surgery!!and finally picked up a 24mm Invicta Ostrich from Avery w/the quick change pins...removed the quick pins and it fit perfect when no other 22/24mm would fit!hand6.gif I guess some strap manufacturers are more generous than others:P:P I like my straps to fit "snug at the lug"  just like you do !snoopy1.gif Good suggestion Oscar.  Funny thing is, I put another "20mm" strap on the Archimede and it fit perfectly! :shock:

O.A. Gaspar wrote:
I have noticed differences in only that some watches lug widths are 19mm and 21mm and not a true 20mm:?
....my old Archimedes was 21mm and a 22mm strap fit nicelyhand6.gif I use a digi-caliper to measure all widths now before ordering...I have found most of the German manufacturers use the odd size lugs..19,21,23mm..which straps are not readily availablewatch2.gif



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 Posted: Sun Feb 25th, 2007 02:10 pm
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Somewhat the same deal here. I have a dress SJ watch that is supposed to be a 20mm at the lugs. I can put most of my 22mm straps on it just fine. Again, I said most. The 20mm on this watch look like your picture. With a 22mm it look perfect. My guess is, it's most likely a euro type 21mm at the lugs.

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 Posted: Sun Feb 25th, 2007 04:56 pm
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I actually prefer the 'shell cordovan" straps from IWI to the Hirsch Liberty straps.  They are slightly thinner so that with a little effort you can mount a deployant, plus they are of consistant quality.  Unfortunately, Ron's service tends to suck!

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 Posted: Sun Feb 25th, 2007 09:11 pm
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That was funny *LOL*

I also have the same problem with mine, very irritating:X



 

 

srh_pres wrote:
Was wondering if anyone else had noticed that the Hirsch Liberty straps (or any other strap for that matter) can vary in width by up to 1 mm?  I have a 20mm brown strap that when fitted to 20mm lugs, has a gap of almost 1mm, allowing some of the spring bar to show (ok, I may be a little anal about that, but I hate it when that happens). 

This pic shows what I mean - the strap was marked as 20mm:


I have noticed it on one of my 24mm straps too - but for that one I was able to 'massage' the leather out a little to spread it and fill the gap.   Can't seem to do that for the smaller straps.

Just curious and wanted to start the first thread...;)
Steve

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 Posted: Mon Feb 26th, 2007 04:57 pm
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I noticed that everyone that has commented here has commented on Leather/natural straps and their variability.  I've noticed the same thing with the leather straps that I have that are not as completely cured and finished in waxes and other coatings.  One that accidentally sat on a desiccant bag (it was accidentally left in a box and slid under the strap when moved to store the box) for a week shriveled up almost 3mm.  Time, atmosphere, humidity, and other factors can play havoc with natural substances like skins - particularly those that are less processed and/or coated.

Last edited on Mon Feb 26th, 2007 05:03 pm by Docrwm

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