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| Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 08:46 am |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS 
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Many collectors here are "LUME" freaks. I think we all enjoy a watch, especially divers that have good lume. An observation and a few questions............... Observation...most lume on watches suck, sure they glow big and bright when charged, but lose it very fast, tritium tubes and Seiko excluded. Question1...is it that much more expensive to use the top quality Superluminova (C-3)?? I think, than the cheaper stuff?Invicta and some others uses Tritium, which is junk, IMHO. Question2...IMHO Seiko has the best lume product for watches. I believe it is proprietary, but with all the technology out there, why wouldn't a company copy it? Is it that expensive to develop? What say you???
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| Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 09:12 am |
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chris s. 3T WIS 
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Good Question, Tony. I've also wondered if it was that much more expensive? Last edited on Wed May 14th, 2008 10:53 pm by chris s. |
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| Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 09:39 am |
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KenC Admin 
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I don't know about the individual cost per watch, but on a mass production scale, it adds up. An extra $0.10 per watch on a million units becomes $100,000.00, Bottom line, great lume is available to all...if a one man show like Kent Parks can get it, then any dial maker can get it.
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| Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 10:03 am |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS
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KenC wrote: I don't know about the individual cost per watch, but on a mass production scale, it adds up. An extra $0.10 per watch on a million units becomes $100,000.00, Bottom line, great lume is available to all...if a one man show like Kent Parks can get it, then any dial maker can get it. No argument, but wouldn't you pay $10.00 more for the watch if done right? I would. So the minimal cost passed on would be a welcomed item.
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| Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 10:13 am |
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KenC Admin
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Tony Duronio wrote: KenC wrote:I don't know about the individual cost per watch, but on a mass production scale, it adds up. An extra $0.10 per watch on a million units becomes $100,000.00, Bottom line, great lume is available to all...if a one man show like Kent Parks can get it, then any dial maker can get it. Well, yes and no...my opinion is that I will buy watches at the market price if they meet my criteria...I don't think I would be willing to pay a 1000% mark up simply to have the manufacturer do it right. It's kinda like "up charges" for sapphire crystals...if a manufacturer has a watch that everybody else can produce with sapphire crystal for X $ and his watch comes with a mineral crystal for the same price (but) I can upgrade to sapphire for "only" X $ more....I pass!
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| Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 10:14 am |
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steve6387 3T WIS 
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Tony Duronio wrote: No argument, but wouldn't you pay $10.00 more for the watch if done right? I would. So the minimal cost passed on would be a welcomed item. You and I certainly would. But we're the vast minority. The real question is: Would John Q. Public pay that extra $10.00 or even know enough to ask about the lume in the first place? --Steve
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| Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 10:20 am |
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KenC Admin
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steve6387 wrote: Tony Duronio wrote:No argument, but wouldn't you pay $10.00 more for the watch if done right? I would. So the minimal cost passed on would be a welcomed item. My point is...why does the manufacturer have to charge an additional 500% to 1000% ....Seiko (and others) put superluminova on watches that retail for as little as $20.
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| Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 10:36 am |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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Nothing is more dissatisfying than a beautiful watch with poor lume. the real test is not the initial charge but how legible the lume is after a number of hours. I would be willing to pay and upcharge for kick ass lume, but my expectation is that any manufacturer worth their salt will insure a bright glow. My guess is that John Q. Public doesn't give a crap or notice the difference!  As a wise man once said, "If it don't glow, it has to go..."
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| Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 10:57 am |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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I think a watch maker should show as much pride in the product from the start and do it right from the start at the best possible price. The watch should then go over better and sell faster with more customers wanting one. About the only times I am really willing to pay more for is for Special Editions, Limited Editions and such. And those to me should always be made with the best products available. The lume, crystal and all other materials.
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| Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 11:32 am |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS
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KenC wrote: Tony Duronio wrote:KenC wrote:I don't know about the individual cost per watch, but on a mass production scale, it adds up. An extra $0.10 per watch on a million units becomes $100,000.00, Bottom line, great lume is available to all...if a one man show like Kent Parks can get it, then any dial maker can get it. Good point 
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| Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 11:45 am |
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steve6387 3T WIS
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KenC wrote: My point is...why does the manufacturer have to charge an additional 500% to 1000% ....Seiko (and others) put superluminova on watches that retail for as little as $20. Good point. Agree 100%. It should be a no brainer, when you consider a Seiko Monster will go toe to toe and often beat some uber exclusive watches when it comes to lume. 
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| Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 12:01 pm |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS
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KenC wrote: steve6387 wrote:Tony Duronio wrote:No argument, but wouldn't you pay $10.00 more for the watch if done right? I would. So the minimal cost passed on would be a welcomed item. Missed this before, but Ken are you saying that Seiko does not have a proprietary lume, they just use Superluminova??? I did not know that.
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