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 Posted: Sun Jun 15th, 2008 09:06 am
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My question is in reference to the ETA 2824. Most descriptions of it say it's a 25 jewel movement, but I've also found it referred to as a 17 jewel movement in some other places. Are both descriptions accurate and the difference being the grade of the movement or is there some confusion between 2 similar movements? Or, is it just a case of erroneous information? I always thought it was a 25 jewel movement, so what gives?

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Murph there is the well known eta 2824-2 with 25j and a 2824-1 with 21j but I never heard/seen a 17j nor read about one in any archive....probably a misprint or falaicyface4.gif....do you have a link to this 17j version

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No, unfortunately not. I know that I've seen it referred to as a 17j, two or three times recently, and it's been bugging me for a couple weeks now. I also know that in the goverment supply catalog(print version), the GSAR description refers to it as a 17j swiss automatic movement. 

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Must be a misprint as the 2824-1 had 21 jewels and the 2824-2 has 25. The handwinding Unitas movements have 17 jewels.

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I cut and pasted the following from a description from Long Island Watch on a Trias watch.....

Solid cushion case military style watch with a 17 jewel Swiss made automatic (self-winding) ETA 2824 movement, white dial, black luminescent hands, and a mineral crystal front,


This particular watch did not have the date complication....could that account for the 17 jewel or was the description just incorrect?
 

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ebiz4me wrote: I cut and pasted the following from a description from Long Island Watch on a Trias watch.....

Solid cushion case military style watch with a 17 jewel Swiss made automatic (self-winding) ETA 2824 movement, white dial, black luminescent hands, and a mineral crystal front,

 

Well....isn't that interesting. Thoughts on this one? Misprint or real?

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murphy j wrote: ebiz4me wrote: I cut and pasted the following from a description from Long Island Watch on a Trias watch.....

Solid cushion case military style watch with a 17 jewel Swiss made automatic (self-winding) ETA 2824 movement, white dial, black luminescent hands, and a mineral crystal front,

 

Well....isn't that interesting. Thoughts on this one? Misprint or real?

Misprint... I'll bet someone else did some cut and pasting and ended up with this...face4.gif

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Hi Murphy!

The 2801-2 and 2804-2 have both 17 jewels. They are considered as "2824 lite" and used in entry level automatic watches.

I've also seen many watches with the "17 jewels 2824 ETA movement" label (Trias, Certina, Auricoste, Rado, RLT ... ). I don't know if these are in fact 2801-2 or 2804-2, or if there was one day a modified version of the 2824 with only 17 jewels...

Cheers!

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Zarith wrote:

the eta 2801 and 2804 are mechanical movements handcrankers not automatichand6.gif....there is no variation I have ever heard of in the eta 2824 auto family w/17j unless some Asian clone has popped up ;)
Hi Murphy!

The 2801-2 and 2804-2 have both 17 jewels. They are considered as "2824 lite" and used in entry level automatic watches.

I've also seen many watches with the "17 jewels 2824 ETA movement" label (Trias, Certina, Auricoste, Rado, RLT ... ). I don't know if these are in fact 2801-2 or 2804-2, or if there was one day a modified version of the 2824 with only 17 jewels...

Cheers!

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Zarith wrote: Hi Murphy!

The 2801-2 and 2804-2 have both 17 jewels. They are considered as "2824 lite" and used in entry level automatic watches.

I've also seen many watches with the "17 jewels 2824 ETA movement" label (Trias, Certina, Auricoste, Rado, RLT ... ). I don't know if these are in fact 2801-2 or 2804-2, or if there was one day a modified version of the 2824 with only 17 jewels...

Cheers!

Thanks Zarith.

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here is a complete up to date list of all watch moventshand6.gif

http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&&2uswk

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Thanks Oscar! According to the list the 2824, 2824-1 and 2824-2 have a 17j version.

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