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 Posted: Sat Oct 25th, 2008 03:10 am
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cfoster wrote: I could be wrong but, somewhere along the way, I understood that Poljot had a license to manufacture ETA movements and I believe the parts came from ETA as well. Is there any truth to that myth?

Clyde

As far as I know Eta never had them make movements. Now they made movements based on the Eta movements and some of the newer watches use Eta movements but that is about as far as it goes I'm preaty sure. ;)

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pacifichrono wrote: oagaspar wrote: once again Simon close but no cigar :D...the 3133 was the Russians variation of the Val.7734 but did not use that ebauche...their chronos more resemble the Seagull st-19 movements of Japan...


I dunno...my understanding is that the Poljot 3133 is a direct descendant of the Valjoux 7734, the tooling for which Poljot bought from Valjoux in the mid-1970s or so.  I thought the Chinese Seagull ST19 was made from the Swiss tooling of the Venus 175, or at least 'cloned' from the Venus, which seems to have geometry a bit different from the Valjoux/Poljot.

Here are the "players:" subtlelaugh.gif

Valjoux 7734:

 

 

Poljot 3133:



 

Seagull ST19:



 

Venus 175:

 

 
And another ST19 (from my 1963 Chinese Air Force Reissue):



 

I'm far from an expert on the matter, but the history I picked up as a Poljot dealer never mentioned the Seagull or Venus.

BTW, my ST19 runs really sweet! ThumbsUp02.gif


Tom,

The Chinese Made Seagull ST-19 is a direct descendant of the Venus 175.

After doing further research with Watch Time Magazine  RE: Contemporary Chronographs 2003. It does state that the Poljot 3133 is made from the
Valjoux 7734.

Thanks Tom for your photos.

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 Posted: Sat Oct 25th, 2008 02:10 pm
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A little history and info on this I found googling.

http://www.christophlorenz.de/watch/movements/p/poljot/poljot_3133.php?l=en

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 Posted: Sat Oct 25th, 2008 09:26 pm
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Fascinating stuff, fellas. hand6.gif

I have one Poljot with a caliber 3133 in it.  It's my only mechanical chrono, and the movement is probably my favorite thing about it...once you get used to the "not quite at quick"-set date. ;););)




 

Last edited on Sat Oct 25th, 2008 09:27 pm by SBD

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