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Rolex out of reach now?

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Posted: Sun Jul 19th, 2009 07:20 pm

BA1970
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Have you tried Nato, zulu and Bund straps? They elevate the watch above the surface of your skin.
cfoster wrote: BA1970 wrote: I try to stay away from sweating ... :D I'm an "air condition gypsy".
Paxman wrote: BA1970 wrote: But, isn't it a screw down crown?

cfoster wrote: Gets in through the crown....

BA1970 wrote:
I am just "shocked" at the fact that your sweat penetrated the case back of the Oyster case and eventually corroded the movement. That must have been an awful lot of sweating. I've never heard of this.

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cfoster wrote: Paxman wrote:

And please don't hide your Rolex. Wear it, use it, just don't be a nut job. To shelter it too much is a waste. When the time comes mine will go back to Rolex and come home new again. Its an heirloom piece my son will pass on to his son hopefully.

I wish I could follow your advice. I own 2 Rolex watches and can only wear them in the winter. In the summer my sweat eats the Rolex 'O' rings and then gets into the watch and rusts the movement. The last repair cost nearly $700. My watchmaker insists on only using Rolex parts so he is unwilling to try any other brand or seals. I don't want to take them to anyone else, so there is my dilemma. I wish I could wear them every day.

I have owned four Rolex watches in my life and will never part with the final two and hope to get a few more before I expire. Why, because I believe that are a bargain. A Rolex is built to last and parts are almost always available from the factory. Just try and get a part for a ten year old car from the factory and in most cases a car costs much more that a Rolex and is designed to last for about five years. Unless you die within that period, I doubt that the car you are now driving will be something to be passed down to future generations.

You don't have to buy a Rolex new, consider a pre-owned model......

Clyde

I wondered about this too. Wouldn't the same be true for any watch you own Clyde? Or is this specific to Rolex? Made me wonder because I produce plenty of sweat in Summer.

Other watches are effected too but not to the same extent as Rolex. The O rings in the crown when screwed down still become a gooey mess and allow moisture through. I have also been known to eat through a stainless steel pusher on my Speedmaster on more than one occasion.. That watch is on its 3rd top pusher, 3rd crystal etc. It was my eating through watches that pushed my into collecting. The logic is that if I have a lot of choice, I wear a different watch every day and they all last linger... However, I soon really got into the hobby and now have hundreds.

Clyde

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Posted: Sun Jul 19th, 2009 07:27 pm

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A Casio can be a piece of jewlery, too - 'cept it costs a mere fifty bux.
Bromo33333 wrote: You can get a Rolex from about $4-7k for the majority of the popular lines within without precious metals (or plating or whatever they do when they make things gold).

Now, compare it to some other "investment grade watches" like Patek Phillipe where the Nautilus starts at $23k, and the Calatrava starts at $16k, and realizing that Rolex is in the same kind of rarified air (albeit at a mugh higher product volume), and you can see that Rolex is a value buy in that category. (And lots of watch companies in the last 10 years sprung up to take advatage of the new money in the BRIC countries where the prices *start* at $30k and go up to hundreds of thousands)

It is all about perspective. And for me, right now, a new Rolex, Patek Phillipe and so on would be a mere pipe dream. Omega would be more realistic, though for now, even that's off the radar as well until I recover form some home improvements just completed and my latest audiophile upgrades.

(Further perspective, the practical side of Rolex discussions are a little off base I think: an inexpensive quartz movement will beat the pants off of any mechanical movement in time keeping, and a rugged enough case for most wear can be had much less epxensive (i.e. G Shock, etc. Serious dive computers can be had from Suunto that will be rugged throughout a dive of nearly any realistic depth) - my conclusion is that Rolex as well as most other fine watches are jewelry - and damn fine jewelry at that!) happy1.gif

Posted: Sun Jul 19th, 2009 07:28 pm

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No, I try and keep each watch as original as possible.

BA1970 wrote:
Have you tried Nato, zulu and Bund straps? They elevate the watch above the surface of your skin.
cfoster wrote: BA1970 wrote: I try to stay away from sweating ... :D I'm an "air condition gypsy".
Paxman wrote: BA1970 wrote: But, isn't it a screw down crown?

cfoster wrote: Gets in through the crown....

BA1970 wrote:
I am just "shocked" at the fact that your sweat penetrated the case back of the Oyster case and eventually corroded the movement. That must have been an awful lot of sweating. I've never heard of this.

face4.gif

cfoster wrote: Paxman wrote:

And please don't hide your Rolex. Wear it, use it, just don't be a nut job. To shelter it too much is a waste. When the time comes mine will go back to Rolex and come home new again. Its an heirloom piece my son will pass on to his son hopefully.

I wish I could follow your advice. I own 2 Rolex watches and can only wear them in the winter. In the summer my sweat eats the Rolex 'O' rings and then gets into the watch and rusts the movement. The last repair cost nearly $700. My watchmaker insists on only using Rolex parts so he is unwilling to try any other brand or seals. I don't want to take them to anyone else, so there is my dilemma. I wish I could wear them every day.

I have owned four Rolex watches in my life and will never part with the final two and hope to get a few more before I expire. Why, because I believe that are a bargain. A Rolex is built to last and parts are almost always available from the factory. Just try and get a part for a ten year old car from the factory and in most cases a car costs much more that a Rolex and is designed to last for about five years. Unless you die within that period, I doubt that the car you are now driving will be something to be passed down to future generations.

You don't have to buy a Rolex new, consider a pre-owned model......

Clyde

I wondered about this too. Wouldn't the same be true for any watch you own Clyde? Or is this specific to Rolex? Made me wonder because I produce plenty of sweat in Summer.

Other watches are effected too but not to the same extent as Rolex. The O rings in the crown when screwed down still become a gooey mess and allow moisture through. I have also been known to eat through a stainless steel pusher on my Speedmaster on more than one occasion.. That watch is on its 3rd top pusher, 3rd crystal etc. It was my eating through watches that pushed my into collecting. The logic is that if I have a lot of choice, I wear a different watch every day and they all last linger... However, I soon really got into the hobby and now have hundreds.

Clyde

Posted: Sun Jul 19th, 2009 07:52 pm

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Alright ... Well, I give up.

goofy

cfoster wrote: No, I try and keep each watch as original as possible.

BA1970 wrote:
Have you tried Nato, zulu and Bund straps? They elevate the watch above the surface of your skin.
cfoster wrote: BA1970 wrote: I try to stay away from sweating ... :D I'm an "air condition gypsy".
Paxman wrote: BA1970 wrote: But, isn't it a screw down crown?

cfoster wrote: Gets in through the crown....

BA1970 wrote:
I am just "shocked" at the fact that your sweat penetrated the case back of the Oyster case and eventually corroded the movement. That must have been an awful lot of sweating. I've never heard of this.

face4.gif

cfoster wrote: Paxman wrote:

And please don't hide your Rolex. Wear it, use it, just don't be a nut job. To shelter it too much is a waste. When the time comes mine will go back to Rolex and come home new again. Its an heirloom piece my son will pass on to his son hopefully.

I wish I could follow your advice. I own 2 Rolex watches and can only wear them in the winter. In the summer my sweat eats the Rolex 'O' rings and then gets into the watch and rusts the movement. The last repair cost nearly $700. My watchmaker insists on only using Rolex parts so he is unwilling to try any other brand or seals. I don't want to take them to anyone else, so there is my dilemma. I wish I could wear them every day.

I have owned four Rolex watches in my life and will never part with the final two and hope to get a few more before I expire. Why, because I believe that are a bargain. A Rolex is built to last and parts are almost always available from the factory. Just try and get a part for a ten year old car from the factory and in most cases a car costs much more that a Rolex and is designed to last for about five years. Unless you die within that period, I doubt that the car you are now driving will be something to be passed down to future generations.

You don't have to buy a Rolex new, consider a pre-owned model......

Clyde

I wondered about this too. Wouldn't the same be true for any watch you own Clyde? Or is this specific to Rolex? Made me wonder because I produce plenty of sweat in Summer.

Other watches are effected too but not to the same extent as Rolex. The O rings in the crown when screwed down still become a gooey mess and allow moisture through. I have also been known to eat through a stainless steel pusher on my Speedmaster on more than one occasion.. That watch is on its 3rd top pusher, 3rd crystal etc. It was my eating through watches that pushed my into collecting. The logic is that if I have a lot of choice, I wear a different watch every day and they all last linger... However, I soon really got into the hobby and now have hundreds.

Clyde

Posted: Sun Jul 19th, 2009 08:42 pm

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BA1970 wrote: Alright ... Well, I give up.

goofy

To me it's just a fact of life so I adjust. goofy

Posted: Sun Jul 19th, 2009 08:45 pm

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cfoster wrote: BA1970 wrote: Alright ... Well, I give up.

goofy

To me it's just a fact of life so I adjust. goofy

Posted: Sun Jul 19th, 2009 10:11 pm

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A Casio *can* be used as jewelry, though my point is that there are more functional "tool watches" than a Rolex - and the majority of the cost of them is in relation to their jewelry function.

Believe me, I'd have a Rolex if I could afford one, too!

Posted: Mon Jul 20th, 2009 10:24 am

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As Paxman said, this comes up every now and again. Point is, wear what you want, like what you want, spend on what you like! Rolex have got the right recipe in the watch trade, all right!

I like Rolex - a lot. And no point in keeping them in the safe! I find I have to "bond" with my watches. If you don't wear them, that will never happen and you will offload them soon.

Posted: Mon Jul 20th, 2009 11:22 am

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Is disagree with you with regards to their price being proportionate to their jewlery factor in that it does not apply equally to all Rolexes. My Rolex, for example, is a tool watch. There is nothing "jewlery" about it. Now, if you look at a gold President, then you and I both would be on the same page.

Bromo33333 wrote: A Casio *can* be used as jewelry, though my point is that there are more functional "tool watches" than a Rolex - and the majority of the cost of them is in relation to their jewelry function.

Believe me, I'd have a Rolex if I could afford one, too!

Posted: Mon Jul 20th, 2009 11:23 am

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Is that a Graham in your avatar? I like it. Let's see some pics.

Graham wrote: As Paxman said, this comes up every now and again. Point is, wear what you want, like what you want, spend on what you like! Rolex have got the right recipe in the watch trade, all right!

I like Rolex - a lot. And no point in keeping them in the safe! I find I have to "bond" with my watches. If you don't wear them, that will never happen and you will offload them soon.

Posted: Mon Jul 27th, 2009 10:37 pm

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KenC wrote: Whereas most watches use 316L Stainless Steel, Rolex uses grade 904L which is more corrosion resistant.

904L has greater amounts of chromium and nickel than the 316L grade. It is typically used in the chemical industry for severe corrosion environments i.e better resistance to pitting, SCC,IGC etc. I believe it is inherently anti-magnetic. The 904L alloy is a great deal more expensive than a 316L grade stainless steel.

Here is a good description of its qualities...

http://www.azom.com/details.asp?ArticleID=1022

Now thats a tidbit I did not know. I guess I should do a little more research on some of my watches. That does explain why my stainless Rolex just always looks a little brighter and shinier than my other Stainless watches. Although, they still scratch about the same. Almost two years after its last polish by Rolex and its ready for another.

I don't know if my next watch purchase will be another Rolex. There is one I want but funds are short on that and I can score a couple other less expensive watches I've been wanting anyway. The Debaufre Airforce Orange is calling my name loudly :dude:

Posted: Wed Jul 29th, 2009 10:02 am

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Rolex is an amazing brand, and at least part of the money you spend is for the name, and the advertising. They do use quality materials, and the build quality is really high, too, so the advertising isn't trying to be deceptive - just there is a lot of it that needs to be paid for. And there is margin they get over and above the other brands, I suspect, and as a result of having nearly universal recognition. They are smart with their brand's use as well.

I'll own one one day - it is not in the cards at the moment I don't think. I respect and aspire to the line, though I realized they can command high prices because of their quality and perceived luxury - and name recognition built up over the years. Many people who only own "one" high end watch will own a Rolex. (And of course, this is where my comments baout it being "jewelry" - one could argue that the "function" portion of a wristwatch is satisfied below $100 and anything higher amounts to a kind of jewelry arguments about quality, "toolness" or other things accounted for).

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