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 Posted: Tue Jul 21st, 2009 11:51 am
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so my dad gave me this watch, it used to be my Grandpa's

I was wondering if you guys could help me with a few things

1) general info, model year, etc?
2)) value?
3) where to get it cleaned and repaired?

I have attached a picture and the caseback is has nothing on it. The bracelet is stamped with ENICAR

and thats all the info I have.


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 Posted: Tue Jul 21st, 2009 01:23 pm
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That is cool. :cool: But sorry can't be of any help with info. Some here may know something though. ;)

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 Posted: Tue Jul 21st, 2009 01:42 pm
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From what I can tell by the dial,
it looks like it might have the Longines Caliber 22L watch movement.

This particular movement has 17 jewels manual wind with sub second
bimetallic screw balance, Breguet hairspring. Rated at 18,000 bp/h.

It was produced between 1945 - approx.1950.

Approximate current value of the watch:

Pristine Examples: $1,100 and above in US Dollars.

Gold version:  $675 and above in US Dollars
Silver version: $525 - $600 in US Dollars.

This is depend on the condition of the movement.

Note:
The solid 14kt gold version of this watch was owned by Malcolm X.

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 Posted: Tue Jul 21st, 2009 01:44 pm
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does anyone know a good place to have it serviced and cleaned/repaired?

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 Posted: Tue Jul 21st, 2009 01:55 pm
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ENICAR was one of those old line Swiss companies (1854) and started producing watches in 1914.  They got hit bad when the quartz movement came into popularity.  They may have produced some of the Longine models back then.

http://www.enicar.com/

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armandsv wrote: does anyone know a good place to have it serviced and cleaned/repaired?

it's nice to have a watch that belonged to a family member...it's value is that of the heart and fond memories you have..
:)

http://www.farfo.com/antique_watch_repair/vintage-watch-repair.html

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Advice:

To maintain the value and authenticity of this magnificent
timepiece is not to restore the dial.

The patina on the dial gives the watch its character and
once its repainted the lettering is very difficult to duplicate.

To clean and adjust the movement is what I highly recommend.

Personally speaking:

I own a 1924 Omega pocket watch with the movement  Caliber 40.6L Type 1.
The nickel plating is quite worn on the movement, however I spent
considerable of dollars in getting it serviced.


Congratulations on such a beautiful timepiece.

Cheers,
Simon

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that's actually not patina Simon but corrosion due to condensation and age....with todays technology all that has to be done to duplicate that dial is to take a pic and feed it into a 3M machine and out comes a one sided adhesive duplicate that is then applied to the cleaned and refinished dial...I would remove that Enicar beads of rice bracelet which may be worth more to a collector than the watch in it's present condition and has nothing to do with Longines although a very collectible brand in it's own right and pick up a Longines strap...have the movement tuned up along with a quick polish to bring back the the lustre of the blued hands and some of the finish of the case....all in all you will have a nice watch but again the only value that is important is the sentimental value it has for you hand6.gif

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Thanks Oscar for the heads up on the info.thankyou.gif

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oagaspar wrote: that's actually not patina Simon but corrosion due to condensation and age....with todays technology all that has to be done to duplicate that dial is to take a pic and feed it into a 3M machine and out comes a one sided adhesive duplicate that is then applied to the cleaned and refinished dial...I would remove that Enicar beads of rice bracelet which may be worth more to a collector than the watch in it's present condition and has nothing to do with Longines although a very collectible brand in it's own right and pick up a Longines strap...have the movement tuned up along with a quick polish to bring back the the lustre of the blued hands and some of the finish of the case....all in all you will have a nice watch but again the only value that is important is the sentimental value it has for you hand6.gif

I agree with Oscar,about removing the bracelet.

Longines straps are a little more than most other
brands of leather straps. However, think about
the fact, that this watch belonged to the same
family since day one.

To me,that's worth preserving.

Cheers,
Simon

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YW Simon....this is the closest model I could find as I thought it was a 40's vintage...mind you this one is 14K and fairly clean,,:)

http://www.watchestobuy.com/Longines14k1937.htm

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Thanks to Oscar for the Correction:

Hard to tell when the movement is not shown in the original photo.

Historical Data about the L15.26:

The 15 Ligne Movement was used in both  ladies pocket watch and early wristwatches and mens wristwatches as well. This is considered to be a small
caliber movement.


However,that being said Caliber L15.26 was a 17 jewel movement,
produced from 1911-1937 and it replaced the porcelain dialed L15.94 of 1904.
The L15.26 was then replaced by the L15.68Z that was used in WWII as a military watch from 1945-47.

Cheers,
Simon

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