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| Posted: Sat Jun 29th, 2013 03:05 pm |
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Luminated 3T WIS
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Interesting new dive watch has just been launched offering a very unique case in both S/Steel and bronze, I've been following this watch on wus and I have to say the design of the case is most interesting especially when you see it in side profile.   It's always worth checking out a new watch and this one is a beauty.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 29th, 2013 05:07 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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with the track record of upstart watch companies paying WUS for advertising privileges I would be leery at best...already see two red flags after reading the thread...it is not a bronze watch selling at $295. pre-order,most likely brass...and the watch is not even in production...just another guy relying on pre-order monies to even get the watch off the ground...save your money until the watch is produced and ready FS...shades of Olivier,Tempest! 
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| Posted: Sat Jun 29th, 2013 05:20 pm |
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Luminated 3T WIS
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^I do see your point especially with what happened with Olivier but this case is quite unique and as far as I'm aware not off the shelf. Though you have to admit it is cracking looking.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30th, 2013 04:10 am |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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The crown don't check out from the face view to the profile view on drawings... Another out-of-the-blue company preorder money built-up chinese project with bronze/brass cases as said Oscar. For the design, I don't find it so unique either but wich one can be on today's market..? Since they never produced watches before, I would personally stay away. I bought Helberg on drawings since they already made the H2O: Without that fact, they would never have seen a dime from me. Don't want my money been gone in a tempest....
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30th, 2013 10:27 am |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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off the shelf is a bad term since most case manufacturers do not stockpile cases,on occasion if a case is rejected it is sold off to a wholesaler ie:SAS/CRUX..."catalogue case" is a better term as there are catalogues for the various HK manufactures...mix and match cases are common among several vendors who take a case and add a different bezel,move the crown etc...most all case manufacturers want you to use something from their catalogue since their machines are set up for these designs...a pure design of your own can be very expensive even if you did all the drawings and blueprints yourself. this particular case design that Makara is using looks like a variation of the Hexa case and before long someone will find the same case being used by another company...like Will said...save your money for the finished product...if it ever materializes!
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30th, 2013 11:39 am |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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Looks ok, but not a head turner, but I agree with Will and Oscar. Super low price points for pre-order tend to make me doubt the entire deal. With the recent shakedowns on bronze claims, I'd really be very granular with my due diligence.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 1st, 2013 12:12 pm |
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Timbo 3T WIS 
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oagaspar wrote: with the track record of upstart watch companies paying WUS for advertising privileges I would be leery at best...already see two red flags after reading the thread...it is not a bronze watch selling at $295. pre-order,most likely brass...and the watch is not even in production...just another guy relying on pre-order monies to even get the watch off the ground...save your money until the watch is produced and ready FS...shades of Olivier,Tempest! Just and FYI - the pre-order price of the bronze is $375. The stainless version is $295 on the pre-order. Time will tell if this one flies!
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| Posted: Mon Jul 1st, 2013 12:44 pm |
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OldeCrow 3T WIS 
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My mother told me "Your face is going to freeze that way"... oh wait that is the wrong one... "If you don't have anything good to say don't say anything at all" Just to be clear I'm not buying one, don't want one as a gift... I must be getting old and set in my ways...
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| Posted: Mon Jul 1st, 2013 03:00 pm |
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stew77 Admin 
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This design doesn't really do anything for me personally, and as other's have already stated...when I first read about this one from the owner, it definitely smacked of Olivier/Tempest. The Makara owner (over on another forum) did mention that this is not his first watch project, and that he's produced a couple prior to this so take that for what it is worth (I don't have any insight or experience with any of those). Best to do more due diligence if you are seriously considering this one IMO. As Will pointed out, the Crown design is not consistent between the front and side view renderings (the stepped case shown in the front view is also not consistently rendered in the side view), so I guess the renderings need some work. At the price point being asked, I suspect that you are not really getting Bronze, but some Brass formulation (and I personally prefer the patina of Bronze to the corrosion of Brass). I wish Mr. Makara the best with this offering...and most of all, I hope that he can deliver to his customers everything that he is promising.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 06:29 am |
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Luminated 3T WIS
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It's really unfortunate for anyone trying to start a new watch company after the Olivier affair because everyone is on their guard not wanting to get bitten again, the only advantage this time round is everyone knows the PayPal rules better and will be keeping a tighter eye on the timescale. Unlike some here I actually do like the design of the case and reckon it will work great as the watch starts to patina. Price is super keen and might be putting some off thinking its too good to be true but I can't comment on that because I frankly don't know how much it costs to manufacture a watch though I reckon the markup can be huge in some cases due to brand image, materials and just how much of its manufacture is completed by hand. Last edited on Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 06:32 am by Luminated |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 11:30 pm |
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stew77 Admin
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Luminated wrote:It's really unfortunate for anyone trying to start a new watch company after the Olivier affair because everyone is on their guard not wanting to get bitten again, the only advantage this time round is everyone knows the PayPal rules better and will be keeping a tighter eye on the timescale. I did check the Makara website, and see that they are advertising CuSn8 Bronze for the case material. All I will say is that the best micro-brands have learned quite a bit regarding the supply chain for CuSn8 Bronze (including suppliers that claim one thing, and provide something that is not-quite-bronze...ie. Brass). If we consider the history of CuSn8 cased watch offerings, it appears to me that at this price point, ALL offerings have turned out to be Brass cased watches in the end. (I do prefer patina to corrosion over the long haul for my watch cases, so I'll stick with Bronze). Like I said, I have nothing against Makara and love it when a nano/micro produces a great product for a great price, while at the same time offering their customers great customer service and transparency in delivering what they have promised. If you have ordered one of these, I hope that Makara delivers on their promise (including CuSn8 Bronze), and look forward to seeing some pics when your's arrives!
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| Posted: Wed Jul 3rd, 2013 01:29 am |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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you would think that these WUS guys would have learned by now after licking their wounds over Olivier and Magrette that there is no such thing as a $375. CuSn8 bronze watch...period! 
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