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 Posted: Sun Aug 10th, 2008 08:24 am
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KenC



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obsidian wrote: KenC wrote: obsidian wrote: KenC wrote: canadajo wrote: man o man ! ..... that is a sweetheart ..... it go's without saying that Blancpain makes superlative watches.....I would think they are elite like Rolex , Vacharon Constatin and Patek , etc. ?
Yes...but, Blancpain does not, as a SWATCH owned company, use a proprietary movement as do the others mentioned...although one could argue that since SWATCH also owns ETA, the movements are proprietary!!!

Well, but Blancpain doesn't use ETA movements-- they uses much more high end stuff-- a number of which were designed specifically and exclusively for Blancpain. The caliber F185 in that FF Air Command is actually a F. Piguet 1185, which was exclusively designed for Blancpain by Frederic Piquet in 1988. At the time it was the world's smallest and thinnest automatic chronograph movement. Nowadays the F. Piguet 1185 is the base caliber for chronographs from Cartier, Audemars Piguet, and Vacheron Constantin. Not bad company.

I stand corrected...you are absolutely right...my mistake...ETA does not make Blancpain movements...their are made by F. Piquet which are excellent...which in turn, negates any claim of a proprietary movement.  :dude:

But nobody made any claim of a proprietary movement, or lack there of..... except you.....

It just goes to show how silly and subjective all this talk of  "inhouse" movements from "true manufacturers" can get. The Seiko 7S26 is a proprietary inhouse movement from a true manufacturer, yet if I was given the choice of either a Seiko Black Monster with the 7S26 movement, or a Cartier Seatimer with a non-proprietary ETA 2892-- I'm pretty sure I'd take the Cartier. :D



Knock it off please and stop trying to start a flame...we don't do that here.  I was responding to a comparison of the other brands mentioned...not knocking the watch!  You are trying...no, you are putting words into my mouth that I never said.

Your comparison of Cartier Pasha Seatimer @ $5,000 (+/-) to a $150 Seiko Monster, in order to prove a point that was not even proffered is simply ludicrous.  Try, instead to compare perhaps the Cartier Seatimer with a Grand Seiko Automatic 9S55-0010... It has the highest grade Seiko movement (caliber 9S55) which promises to keep time within -3 to +5 sec per day.  The range is even more stringent than for chronometer grade watches...and at a cost of less that half of the Cartier.

In the Cartier price range, one could get a Grand Seiko with Spring DriveQuite frankly, your absurd attempt at comparisons are beneath the standards of any intelligent discussion!