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 Posted: Fri Jan 22nd, 2010 12:52 pm
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Hammerfjord



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I am, on my side, not attracted by scratched cases and paint rusted dials. Every one got his taste but I don't want to pretend as I got a watch on my wrist who been through all storms and bad treatments with sea-water leakages during 60 years.
I guess that a Pam from this century period who would have been preserved in a safe until now and who would be in outstanding NOS estate, would be even more priceless than the ones who are rusted because it's impossible to find..?
In my eyes, the rust or scratches can't prove the battle anyway... You should have a document who certifie that the watch was in action...?
My homage will be clean as it could be when it was going on the wrists of the war-heroes on the first day: It will not be as the one they had, it will be a modern stuff.
In my knowledge, nobody replicate the old sandwich dials who got nothing to do with the new ones we see around anyway: look here
http://cgi.ebay.com/Genuine-Vintage-Panerai-3646-RADIOMIR-Dial-3-piece_W0QQitemZ280452880434QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristwatches?hash=item414c4b5832#ht_1124wt_1165

A little story...
When I was in Mexico in 93, I've been proposed false aged poteries as all tourists.
I prefer a nice clean copy than something who's filled of cracks/dirt, made up the day before or I buy the real deal...Real is real, false is false, even you fool your friends with it, you don't fool yourself...
I was about to buy the real deal to a Maya Indian from the mountains near Mitla but I was risking years of prison if caught on the customs so I never bought it and that was for the best.

My meaning is just that I don't want any maked-up/false aged watch on my wrist.
Those homages are in fact, in my eyes, copies of old ones: Not homages.
In my opinion, an homage don't pretend to be an original...
As for the watch-master thing Oscar, here's my view of the term: You are a watch-master when you can create in part or totally your own movement. An excellent mechanic and steal-worker/gold-smith can build a case with the right tools and some talent: But the movements-building skills are unique to a watch-master.
To scratch cases,weld lugs and tint dials requiers no mastergrade to me: I got the same crown "Brevet#" on my Kampf' also...
He took down his price from 5000 buks to 1500: It tells me everything about his watch as his new price is more representative of a today's cost if you make it yourself with a 1000buks mvt(still they don't need to cost as much as that...)

A last thing: If this watch got so many references from a watchmaster and is made to only few pieces to exact specs: Why do the guy don't name it in his listing to save his own greedy butt? Also his reference link is down...Too bad because I was interested about this link.:?
But I agree on one thing: It's the need of people who set the price. Not allways the real value;)