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Hello,
I saw this posting on a search for movement information....while this posting is over a year old, I still thought I'd reply.
I'm guessing you know this by now, buy your Zlatoust is a remake, the early one made for the tourist industry in the 1970's, it is not the real thing. The real Zlatoust are made of steel/alloy and not nickel plated brass, the brass was never used by the military or any branch of the soviet government. I own a later model Zlatoust, looks almost a 1/1 to the one here, but my movement has a much better finish and mine has a steel case, also has the correct band. The last model steel version is 270 grams, not 300 grams, the steel/alloy version weighs less than brass.
Good reference for Russian timepieces is
http://www.ussrtime.com
I've seen a bunch of remake but they had different dials, different cases-back inscriptions(specially marked with an anchor).
They also don't have the 3 screws on the crown base like mine and they house Molnija movements.
Now, following your link (custom search: "Zlatoust")
I can see the model numbered as 0510 (60's/70's) and it's case back: It's clearly in steel as we can see the machining circle marks and the deep number stamp: 2524
Still on your link, on the model numbered 0611(who's right under the 0510) and who's dated from 16 sept.75 , you can see that the case back with the numbered 1716 don't look machined at all like the other one.
The surface has much more bright and seems very well polished after all those years... Can you see the patina difference? It's obvious.
It looks like nickeled brass.
And it has very close serial numbers to mine as well: Mine being 1723.
It's claimed to be a "Hard hat diver" Zlatoust model as the 50's original and second it in the chronologic order of the collection(who knows why...).
They might have made a serial with brass cases back in time, who knows.
It's not because the guy says that the case is in steel that it's in steel: I've never seen steel looking like that and if he would have opened his watch, he might have had the same surprise as me...Brass.
Now, I don't claim to be an expert and I took contact with Mr Fedotov at the Zlatoust factory today: I sent him all the pictures I have and asked him for an answer. As soon as he answer me, I will post here.
But if mine is a fake like you claim: So is the the one presented in the collection of your link.
As I would have a hard time to believe that the one who's labeled 0611 and stamped 1716 , has a steel case: It don't look like it at all to my eyes...
The guy on your site is also saying that the 50's model is the original: This is true enough but I will personally not buy it as it's dial has a radioactive lume and is dangerous by contact with it specially if you open the watch and manipulate it.