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At least on the other forum honesty pays off. The lugs are a big issue. The holes are to close to the end of the horns. The only band that looked good and fit was the delaurian, and fit only because Shane made it fit. I'm sure he noticed the problem and sewed the strap hole farther in to help the watches apperance. The watch would look better with 22mm lugs. They look stretched at 24mm.