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watchluvr1 3T WIS 
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Hey guys...just picked up a NIB VX-200,yes the Shnoop deal the some may have jumped on a while back. Well i just got mine yesterday (not from shnoop) and it's dead! Meaning no matter how many times i wind the friggin' thing,the movement won't run. The seller says he got it a while back and never wore it. He is correct because all of the plastic is still on the bracelet clasp and it's never been sized. Anyway he tells me that since it sat for so long,it may have to be "wound by an expert". Am i a dummy or what?? It's a pretty standard 2824 movement,correct? Usually you give 'er a little shake and/or turn the crown several times to get it going. I did all that and nada!! It's on the winder now. He insists that if i can't get it going myself,i'd have to take it in to a jeweler to wind the mainspring. OK guys...what do you think?? Any suggestions? Is this normal? Anyone else have the same problem with a VX-200? I appreciate any and all feedback. Randy  |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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Can you hear the rotor spinning when you shake it? And dose it start up at all, second hand movement, when you shake it? They can gunk up but that usually takes quite a bit of time. Try to avoid the jeweler till all else fails. If the rotor spins and you do get some momentary movement spinning in the winder or wearing on the wrist could give it a jump start after a few hours. If that works it could take a good week to get the movement to settle down and start working properly. But if it is showing no life may need to be seen by a pro. Call and get quotes if no warranty is covering such. |
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watchluvr1 3T WIS
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if i wrap it against my left palm holding the watch in my right hand,the rotor will spin a few times. But no hand movement (seconds hand). I did get it to run for a minute or so when i was continually winding it fast...it went all the way around starting around the 15 seconds mark....when it reached the 12:00 position,it started to slow down and stop. I just turned the crown i'm not kidding you like 150 times!!coyote2.gif Still nothing. It's brand new so i don't really wanna crack it open. I don't even want to size the bracelet to wear it to see if it runs. I'd like to keep it new as possible in case he takes it back....which he already told me he does not want to. Well this kind of stuff really sours me on buying watches from people. I'll ask him if he got it from Shnoop and see if he has some sort of a receipt. Maybe i can return it and say it was a gift. |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS 
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Randy, My uneducated guess is that the rotor might be loose. If it spins freely that is not typical for a 2824 since they wind in either direction. The only issue with this theory is that I think it should still manually wind so the mainspring might be messed up. I dont think its a big fix for a competent watchmaker if you have one in your area. |
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watchluvr1 3T WIS
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I appreciate the feedback. Now that i think about it,a customer of mine is a retired watchmaker from the "old country" as he says. He has told me many stories of how he made his own movements from scratch. It was part of his training and passing his watchmaker exams. I may just give him a call tomorrow! Otherwise there are a few guys local i can take it to. The thing that pisses me off is the seller must think i'm a moron and i don't know how an automatic movement works...i was even second guessing myself at one point thinking i was doing something wrong. That'll teach me.......right now i'm just bummed about it. I wanted to wear it right when i got it.  |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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Why would you keep a watch that arrived not working???..especially after the seller fed you with the biggest line of BS I ever heard! |
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KenC Admin 
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Please tell me you didn't but it from a recent sale at WUS...and...SEND IT BACK. There are others that are coming on the market. The seller should either take it back or pay for the repair. |
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watchluvr1 3T WIS
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believe me,i don't want to keep it! He says i'm not gonna take it back until i do my part to get it running.....i'm gonna quote his emails! hold on.....oagaspar wrote: Why would you keep a watch that arrived not working???..especially after the seller fed you with the biggest line of BS I ever heard! |
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KenC Admin
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Tell him to F-off...it was his responsibility to send you a working watch. If he wants you to take it to a watchmaker for a "special winding", then he needs to anti-up for the expense. He's the AHO here. If he won't do that then let us know who it is, and report him to the forum owner he sold the watch on. |
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watchluvr1 3T WIS
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i bought it on eBay!! maybe a dumb move! but Shnoop did not have it anymore and i could not find a black one. ok,this is what he says: "Randy, The watch has sat stagnant for a long period of time just as I have stated in my listing, which may have caused the mainspring to completely become unwound. On numerous occasions, including just before I shipped the watch, I was able to move the watch vigorously and the the second hand did begin to move. It would count off a few seconds then stop. This shows me it will work and will just need to be worn regularly to keep the charge once the mainspring has been wound. Again, because it has been just sitting for so long the mainspring is probably totally unwound. I dont want to have an unsatisfied customer, but I did clearly state that winding of the mainspring might be neccesary, and if you need to bring the watch to an expert to do so, then it is your responsibility. The watch is 100 percent new and never worn, so I did list it accurately. Even though brand new, items do occasionally need to be "recharged" by an expert, and I did state that in this watches case, that might be neccesary. I do want to resolve this as best as we can, but I am not simply going to just take the watch back, because as you knew when u bid on the item, it may need to be wound, and if you do not have the tools to do so, an expert would. We need to have some common ground here, and I believe it begins with you doing what you can to charge the mainspring. Thank you. " (name withheld) |
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watchluvr1 3T WIS
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ebay Ken! i can still leave him a negative or contact paypal. maybe they can help?? oh...and i'd love to tell him to F... off....i just dropped him another email. we'll see...maybe he'll tell me to F... off KenC wrote: Tell him to F-off...it was his responsibility to send you a working watch. If he wants you to take it to a watchmaker for a "special winding", then he needs to anti-up for the expense. He's the AHO here. If he won't do that then let us know who it is, and report him to the forum owner he sold the watch on. |
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OldeCrow 3T WIS 
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Ken's right he sold it he can accept it back and deal with having the watch fixed. for a guy who swears it was perfect he is sure trying hard to convince you it's your problem. keep it civilized but get him to take it back. I suppose you can try calling the accutron service center... they may be willing to honor the warranty for you... |
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KenC Admin
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watchluvr1 wrote: ebay Ken! I would try everything you can to get him to honor the description of the sale (although I did not see the description), and after that, regardless of whether or not he ultimately does something, report him to ebay for fraud and file a claim with paypal...keep copies of documentation and emails. Be aware of your timelines for filing with paypal. I would start NOW! If you used a credit card on paypal, you can also dispute the charge there. |
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e.avery 3T WIS 
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I would do what Ken said, you need a full service and cleaning correctly not one of the quicky jobs. If you can not do it and regulate it you know the costs. |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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If he dose not work with you on this he is not one of the good guys. If he is on the forums that you know of post him up as a bad guy forsure so others will know. |
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watchluvr1 3T WIS
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He now says he will "make it right". I had it looked at today for the hell of it. I was told the movement should be serviced. Something i should not have to do since i just got the damn thing. I also noticed the bezel is a click off. A real gem,huh???coyote2.gif Very disappointing for a $ 1000 watch!! Of course none of us who got this watch paid that much. Last edited on Sat Apr 26th, 2008 09:50 pm by watchluvr1 |
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KenC Admin
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Perhaps I just got lucky with mine...great fit & finish, solid, everything lined up...not a $1,000 watch by any means, but a solid $500 to $600 piece. |
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watchluvr1 3T WIS
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Final chapter:I sent it back and he issued a full refund. Now....what to get?? |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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watchluvr1 wrote: Final chapter:I sent it back and he issued a full refund. Now....what to get?? I'm glad to hear that, Randy. That jerk was trying to pull one over on you. What a crock of you know what... What ya' looking at? |
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watchluvr1 3T WIS
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hmmm...nothing in particular......maybe a JSAR or a Tritonhappy1.gif |
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KenC Admin
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The Accutron VX200 Chronograph!!! |
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watchluvr1 3T WIS
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KenC wrote: The Accutron VX200 Chronograph!!! I did see the deal shnoop had on them. I'm kinda "turned off" on the Accutrons after all this. The movement issue being one thing. The bezel being obviously mis-aligned another. I am sure every manufacturer may have a "dud" slip through every now and then,but i am going to look elsewhere. I've had less problems with Invictas....come to think of it...i've NEVER had a problem with an Invicta. Not that i'm looking to get another one,just saying. |
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KenC Admin
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watchluvr1 wrote: KenC wrote:The Accutron VX200 Chronograph!!! Understood...but I believe it was the seller not the manufacturer that caused the problems...god knows what he did with the watch prior to attempting fraud! Okay...I guess I'll flip my VX200 somewhere else!!! |
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