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romano 3T WIS 
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Any idea which auto movement is in this? Tried 3T search found the watch but nothing specific I could see on the engine. Zodiac site just says automatic. |
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captobvious 3T WIS 
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It sports the Claro-Semag CL888. The movement is the weak point of the watch, IMHO. :( |
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canadajo 3T WIS 
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I thought it was a Stelletta 200 ..... And I know I am spelling it wrong :X Last edited on Wed Dec 17th, 2008 10:02 pm by canadajo |
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romano 3T WIS
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Well I was certain it isn't using an ETA 2824 . I thought the sellita 200 is a pretty good movement. I thought the Clara Semag was largely asian. Is it Swiss? Swissian? |
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Chick Hazzard 3T WIS 
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Here is some info... http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=msg&th=950521&start=0&rid=65913 |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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It's definetly powered by the Claro-Semag 888 which is owned and built by George.J Von Burg in his Swiss factory.....some of the parts are outrsourced from China but it is all done by Von Burg who's reputation among Swiss watchmakers is stellar....I have this movement in a few watches and it has been a good running movement without problems....no eta but a nice alternative and costs lesshand6.gif |
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pallet spoon Guest
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captobvious wrote: It sports the Claro-Semag CL888. The movement is the weak point of the watch, IMHO. :( That's too bad :( . Pretty watch IMHO. |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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Great watches though. I have the black dial. It has been one of my main go to watches the past two Spring and Summers. ;) |
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Goofy 3T WIS 
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I've had a yellow one for a couple of years now without any problems and keeps great time. For the price point I can't complain. |
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captobvious 3T WIS
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captobvious wrote: It sports the Claro-Semag CL888. The movement is the weak point of the watch, IMHO. :( Okay, I have to make a slight retraction. I used to own the orange dialed version of this watch and the movement in it suffered from a few issues. The second hand would stutter while running and would jump ahead 5-7 seconds when the crown was pushed in after setting. WEEELLLL... I just bought another Oceanaire and am happy to report that the movement in this one seems to be working flawlessly. The sweep of the second hand is smooth and it hacks like it should. I'm very happy because I think the Oceanaire is a beautiful, unique watch and a relative bargain at the prices you can pick them up for! :) |
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captobvious 3T WIS
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I remember reading about that and at first it didn't bother me too much... but the second hand jumping so far forward after setting was too much. I'm happy to say that my new one does not display either of the above issues.  |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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I own a few watches with the Claro888 and find it to be a great alternative in retrospect of what is going on with eta....there are many Swiss and Asian movements that suffer from the stutter or pause in the second hand and this is the most concise pictorial and educational post explaining the phenom I have seen....hand6.gif http://members.iinet.net.au/~fotoplot/invicta/invicta.html |
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Johnny P Advisor 
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captobvious wrote: I remember reading about that and at first it didn't bother me too much... but the second hand jumping so far forward after setting was too much. I'm happy to say that my new one does not display either of the above issues. Here is a chinese or japanese movement that has the same problem, this one has a 9 o'clock second hand with date, found in many reps watches it does hack. For educational purpose only, draw your own conclusion:) I'm not saying that the cl 888 is a bad movement, especially if it has been refine in swizerland (who knows)              Bollowed pictures from other link above so you can compare:) CL888...  ST16...  |
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gigfy 3T WIS 
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That is a Dixmont-Guangzhou (DG) movement. I'm not sure which variant has the sub-seconds at 9 o'clock, but it does have the DG circle crown logo under the balance wheel. DG logo Nanning (NN) makes almost identical movements to DG and their logo is two N's DG logo I have a DG movement in my modern Timex automatic watch.   Cheers, gigfy Last edited on Sat Jan 17th, 2009 04:17 pm by gigfy |
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Johnny P Advisor
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gigfy wrote: That is a Dixmont-Guangzhou (DG) movement. I'm not sure which variant has the sub-seconds at 9 o'clock, but it does have the DG circle crown logo under the balance wheel. Thanks for the info, I knew someone would know this logo http://www.tractionink.com/watch_wiki/index.php?title=PTS_Resources |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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great info....here's a link to the history of the Claro-Semag and the new caliber CL-888hand6.gif http://www.tractionink.com/watch_wiki/index.php?title=Claro-Semag |
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Johnny P Advisor
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This one is funny:) Source: http://www.tractionink.com/watch_wiki/index.php?title=Technica_Swiss_Ebauches Technica Swiss Ebauches From Chinese Watch Industry Wiki Jump to: navigation, search The US owned Invicta Watch Company have long used mechanical movements from well-known sources such as ETA and Miyota. Recently they have expeanded their range to include watches with mechanical movements described as "Technica Swiss Ebauches". When questioned, Invicta have stated that Technica Swiss Ebauches is not a company, but simply a brand registered to Invicta. There has been speculation that Invicta were running a movement-finishing facility in Switzerland, but they have been found to have no holdings in that country. Later there were claims that the Technica movements were sourced from Japan, although they did not match the appearance of any known Japanese calibres. When questioned specifically about the Technica 1902, which looks identical to the Sea-Gull ST1902, Eyal Lalo owner of Invicta admitted that it was in fact assembled from Sea-Gull parts, with Sea-Gull technical assistance, at an Invicta-owned facility in Korea. The name Technica Swiss Ebauches has caused confusion with some consumers who assume that it implies a certain amount of Swiss content in the movement, however it is important to note that Invicta watches marked as having Technica Swiss Ebauches movements are never labelled either "Swiss Made" or "Swiss Movement". Conversly, Invicta watches labelled "Swiss Made" never have TSA movements. The term Swiss Ebauches Microtechnique has also been used apparently interchangeably with Technica Swiss Ebauches to describe Invicta's Chinese sourced movements. Some known Chinese calibres rebadged as Technica Swiss Ebauches Sea-Gull ST19 Sea-Gull ST36 Standard skeleton Hangzhou 2189 & 2198 Shanghai 2H Retrieved from "http://www.tractionink.com/watch_wiki/index.php?title=Technica_Swiss_Ebauches" |
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gigfy 3T WIS
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Then you will like these also: Croton CR8315 = DG28 http://www.watchgeeks.net/viewtopic.php?t=9918&highlight=cr8315 Invicta French Ebauche = DG/NN http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=217605 Cheers, gigfy |
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Johnny P Advisor
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gigfy wrote: Then you will like these also: ROTFLOL! The French Ebauche :D |
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gigfy 3T WIS
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gigfy wrote: Then you will like these also: not an approved link..we do not allow links to that forum please read the rules in the OT section...TY Last edited on Sat Jan 17th, 2009 07:11 pm by |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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it's too bad most all the good info on Invicta and the French/Swiss ebauches were lost in the 2005 WUS crash which lost all these posts from the old Invicta Watch forum there :D ...I 'm sure most of us here all remember the heated discussions on this subject from back then as senior members of WUS and ex-mods of that Invicta forum which at one time was the single largest watch forum on the web and know more on the subject of Invicta than most anyone hand6.gif |
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