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DJRHodes71
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I have read a lot about keeping auto watches wound using watch winders. Some say keep them wound and running at all times to keep the oil from gumming up, but with synthetic oil that should not be a problem. On the same hand the watch will wear out faster when running all the time. The other side says to just let them run down and it will extend the life of the winding mechanism and just wind the watch up when it's time to wear it. Both arguments make sense....Is one more correct then the other?

The reason I ask is because my watch winder box holds 3 watches and I keep my favorite watches wound and running all the time even though I really wear them only on the weekends. My other watches I keep in the storage part below the winder and when I want to wear one of those I just wind it up and set the time. Should I just turn off the winder and when I want to wear a particular watch just wind, set and go?
I'm hoping someone has some more insight on this for me.

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Dave

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Dave if you do a search here at 3T you'll find tons of opinions on winders. The bottom line as I see it is that many of us don't use them much though we did at one time, and the true freaks among us love the tactile sensation and ritualistic behavior associated with winding and setting our watches on a daily basis.

That my summary as I remember general consensus or I could be so egamaniacal to think my opinion is somehow the 3T WIS consensus. My head is spinning!toon1.gif

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Thanks Paxman,
I'm thinking it really does not matter if you keeps your watches running at all times or let them run down until the next time you wear it.

I found out my winder does not like my Benarus Sea Devil. I think it is too heavy. The cup that has the Sea Devil turns very slow compared to the other cups. When I take out the Sea Devil all three cups turn about the same rate. The Sea Devil is may biggest, heaviest watch so far...until I can get my hands on a Megalodon....

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I, personally wind-up and set my watches each time before wearing...Got no winder.
It's like a ceremony...A foreplay...
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I like foreplay also....but there are times when you just gotta grab and go. Bouncy.gif

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Thrue! When it's like that, I take a hand-cranker like the 6497 or 6498 in my Kampfschwimmer homage and got it fast done coz there's no date;)

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Hammerfjord wrote: Thrue! When it's like that, I take a hand-cranker like the 6497 or 6498 in my Kampfschwimmer homage and got it fast done coz there's no date;)
Exactly or may be even grab a.... quartz!;)

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Quartz....? Whats that? goofy

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Paxman wrote:
Hammerfjord wrote: Thrue! When it's like that, I take a hand-cranker like the 6497 or 6498 in my Kampfschwimmer homage and got it fast done coz there's no date;)
Exactly or may be even grab a.... quartz!;)


Sorry for the quartz-lovers but like my watchmaker said me once: "...Quartz is nice but...It got no soul..."
Quartz is nearly banished from my collection: Go only one so... It's just that I don't look at them as other wathes.

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Paxman wrote: and the true freaks among us love the tactile sensation and ritualistic behavior associated with winding and setting our watches on a daily basis.
WOW Mark, that was DEEP woohoo.gif  "tactile sensation and ritualistic behavior"  Love it hand6.gif

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the only thing that makes you a part of your watch is the crown...so why let a machine wind it?...one of my fondest memories was watching my Dad wind his watch...:)

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oagaspar,
Since you put it like that....makes me think....how very true!

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....i was thinking, is there a difference between wearing a watch 24/7 and having it in a winder 24/7....?

 

(and i mean one of those random movement winders, not the ones that rotate all the time...)

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lars-erik wrote:
....i was thinking, is there a difference between wearing a watch 24/7 and having it in a winder 24/7....?

 

(and i mean one of those random movement winders, not the ones that rotate all the time...)



The only difference could be on that you would not miss or get more seconds or minuts the same way on the timing of the watch with those 2 alternatives.... Watches's automatic movements reacts differently in the positions you hold them. A winder would always replicate the same positions but not the hand...

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Thrue...The crown is the nipple of the watchsubtlelaugh.gif

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I just had a very interesting discussion with a knowledgeable watch maker/repair shop in NH. He says not to keep automatic watches on a winder constantly as they wear out the barrel. As previous posts note, the oil today doesn't thicken and cause problems as they did "In the day". I have one with 4 slots and 8 auto's and will be turning it off. Plan to use it as a case.

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Tactile sensation, foreplay, the crown is the nipple of the watch?

I am going to have to take viagra just to wind my damn watches in the morning.

Ritualistic behavior has its merits.  I usually like to sacrifice a virgin, and burn incense, while massaging the nipple of the watch, in a forplay fashion, to intensify the tactile sensation.

Who needs a winder when you have all this workin for ya ????

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I had bought one of those cheap winders that allows you to control direction but not frequency.  I originally used it for about a year and never noticed any problems.

On another forum we were debating the usage of them and I finally realized that if you keep a watch on a winder constantly (other than when being worn), only three possibilities exist.

1.  The watch is not wound enough and eventually stops.  This makes the winder useless.  And of course, no one has a winder that works like this.  But logically speaking, it is a possibility.

2.  The watch is kept perfectly, exactly wound, and no more.  This would mean that it was able to wind the exact amount of rotations needed for the delay between windings.  And I mean EXACT.  Yeah, I laughed as I typed that.  Any deviation at all over time leeds to options #1 or #3.  I don't think any of us believe that one.

3.  The watch is fully wound, and constantly being overwound.  If the watch isn't getting behind (option #1), or maintained at full wind but no more (option #2), the only alternative is that it is always being overwound.  This is the reality of the situation when using a winder.  The only time it might not be overwound is when you are wearing it or it is off the winder.

I consider winders to always be causing option #3 and that just doesn't sound good to me.  That's a lot of unnecessary wear so I stopped using a winder.  At the time I wanted the benefits of a winder, I just wasn't willing to pay the potential price as I saw it.

As a side note, I have also come to realize that for me, wanting so many watches wound was an indication that I really just hadn't found the perfect watch for me.  Since I obtained my <gratuitous_plug>Boschett Cave Dweller</gratuitous_plug>, I just don't feel the need to have 4 watches wound.  So now I don't even need the benefits of a winder.

 


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