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TimeTechTalk.com > Time Tech Talk > Time Talk > Schaumburg Aquanautic II or DeBaufre Triton Midnight? |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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with about a half dozen watch companies coming out with 2000m + dive watches utilizing the same case I was happy to see the new DeBaufre offer their own version with the new Triton 2000m "Midnight Zone" being offered at a pre-order price of $850. with a eta which sounds very inticing when taken in consideration what the competition is charging!....the latest addition is the pre- Basel preview of the Schauburg Aquanautic II at a base price of 890.euros for a base sw200 and 1190 euros for a chronomter and a striking resemblence to the Trition 2000....I am anxiuosly awaiting the new Triton to see how the lume stacks up with the skeleton hands but my exeperince with DeBaufre has always been superior lume! ....only time will tell imo! hand6.gifhand6.gif http://store.debaufre.com/Triton-2000-Meter-p/t-dw.20.2km.htm from the DeBaufre site: The Triton 2000-meter diving watch. When making the descent to the Ocean's depths beyond the light, a few elements provide security and assist in the safe return to the horizon's-level. At a crushing depth usually reserved for few creatures, the Triton 2000-meter feels right at home with a construction pressure tested to withstand the black abyss. At the Midnight Zone, located 200 atmospheres below the waves, the only available light is that which is produced from within. Housed in a secure 45-mm high-pressure-grade stainless steel case, constructed of 316L surgical-grade steel, sits the Swiss ETA 2824-2 automatic movement with 25 jewels, providing the accuracy Switzerland is known for, protected with a scratch-resistant sapphire crystal glass treated in an anti-reflective coating. Pressure management is automatically provided by an Integrated Helium Release Valve (HRV), located on the left side of the case, while the case is sealed tight with a screw-down crown and an engraved artistic case-back and secured to the wrist with a 5-link steel bracelet, fastened with solid end-pieces, steel screws and a clasp with diving extension. Beneath the clear sapphire glass lays a deep-black dial enriched with a wavy textured pattern offsetting the orange and white markings on the dial, hands and bezel applied in Super-Luminova phosphorus illuminating paint, and providing an appealing contrast for the metal skeleton hands gently gliding over the dial. Surrounding the Date window sits a sub-dial disc as a tribute to a port-window on an undersea submersible. The Debaufre Triton 2000-meter is the ideal sized watch for you if your wrist size is between 6.5 to 9 inches and above. And it is priced at a reasonable $850. Water resistant to 2000 meters / 6562 feet / 200 ATM. Triton 2000 Midnight Zone  Schaumburg Aqua II  |
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mcwright Admin 
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Great looking Debaufre watch, but on a diver like this I would want fully lumed hands. cat28.gif |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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All things considered the dial and hands on the featured Schaumberg are for more appealing to me personally. Of course given the price differential... well?? Not a fan of the skeleton hands either, but it looks like the shiznit for certain!;) |
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romano 3T WIS 
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Money no object then the Schaumberg . Just like the look a little better. The DeBaufre white circle around the date is a little funny to me. Could live with either though |
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Nabco 3T WIS 
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Paxman wrote: All things considered the dial and hands on the featured Schaumberg are for more appealing to me personally. Of course given the price differential... well?? Not a fan of the skeleton hands either, but it looks like the shiznit for certain!;) My thoughts exactly woohoo.gif |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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I ever saw this Schaumburg case: It was selling on the Bay under "Waterwall" name... Offcourse by some people attached to the L&B house. The Schaum. got a serious military diver look who's attractive and more classic: I like simple "PloProf" markers like that and the hands are clearly poping out: It's an action boy. The Triton got his little blended styles and I like the date window: It's different and the fact that it's placed at 6' gives an uncommon effect. The skeletton hands are less visible but enough anyway, if not diving in the dark. It lighten the dial I think and make it less busy. Decision: If I would look for a tool-watch for diving,adventure, missions,outdoor activities, I would go for the Schaum.... If I would look for a cool everyday's "showing off" watch as a desk-diver I would take the Triton: It stand out from the usual divers crowd and looks more rafinated. Price is also good... :cool: |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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The hands of the Schaumburg and overall design of the bezel and dial are just too much to resist.hand6.gif I think the Schaumburg is also a very traditional, direct-to-the point diver. Everything on the dial and on the bezel makes sense both aestheticlaly and functionally. The minute hand is also very crucial in a diver and the emphasized proportion it has (plus its larger lume area) versus the shorter, stubbier hour hand is something that really makes a lot of sense for divers, who after all, do it deeper On the Triton, somehow that circular date disc/portal at 6 is distracting, as it is presented. The disc doesn't seem to integrate with the other "cube" elements of the dial, especially the hour markers. I'm not taking anything away from the Triton (I have 2 other Debaufre's and am super happy with bothhand6.gif) but today, that Shaumburg diver wins. Last edited on Fri Feb 19th, 2010 06:03 am by bigrustypig |
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Nabco 3T WIS
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bigrustypig wrote: On the Triton, somehow that circular date disc/portal at 6 is distracting, as it is presented. The disc doesn't seem to integrate with the other "cube" elements of the dial, especially the hour markers. That is exactly what turns me off to the Triton too |
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Gregger 3T WIS 
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My opinion FWIW...I like the Debu ETA 2824 vs SW200....Ilike the date better with the white background as it stands out better....I like the hands better on the Schauburg also the Schauburg looks like the Zinex..and I like the price of the Debu much better..... |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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I don't get how a set of filled hands and a clone movement in the Schaumburg justifies a $500. difference in price from the Triton and $800. more for a COSC SW200 ?...I'll wait to see the lume on the skeleton hands before I hold judgement but the eta alone would have me wearing the Triton 2000.jmho...hand6.gif |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS 
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Piggybacking on your post Gumba, found this on PMWF which lays out all or most of the companies using that design.......... http://www.pmwf.com/Phorum/read.php?4,180695,180695#msg-180695 |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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oagaspar wrote:I don't get how a set of filled hands and a clone movement in the Schaumburg justifies a $500. difference in price from the Triton and $800. more for a COSC SW200 ?...I'll wait to see the lume on the skeleton hands before I hold judgement but the eta alone would have me wearing the Triton 2000.jmho...hand6.gif From what I understood, the SW200 got nothing to envy to the 2824-2 on it's mechanic: It's a pure Swiss copy with one jewel more: Can't hurt....? But the Sellita didn't get the time to prove himself as long as the ETA and therefor don't benefit of the same reputation: Explaining the suspicious minds:D Time will show! But I agree with you Oscar: The Schaum's price can't be justified there and whatever people think about the date window of the Triton, no date window is at it's best because it look like all date windows we been used to see since the day we opened our WIS eyes. I like the fact that some fabricant try to break the classics even they will mostly recolt critics. And circle date hole in the circle window would have look too much round-around maybe: It's ok like it is I say... We need innovation sometimes: Not only copies or homages and this date window gives it... The skeletton hands are great: Nobody says that they are crappy when they are on the Seamaster:D But if Debaufre would have put a cyclop on the date, I would have been full of bad words  |
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joecb 3T WIS 
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The look of the DEb. dial I think needs to be seen in high resolution to fully appreciate. That said..I'm still not sure on it.....aside from the dial, all the other brands Tony listed are using the 2824-2 except the Schaumberg. Then it goes to actual location of build....swiss made.. could make the difference, when deciding on one. One note: Deep blue is located in NYC, and the owner is easy to contact and talk to. His service is top notch along with his warranty. And then overall price, presentation, all adds to the final decision on one for me. Last edited on Fri Feb 19th, 2010 02:14 pm by joecb |
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Johnny P Advisor 
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Todd Caldwell 3T WIS 
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Yawn:X Its a cool looking case, the designer got something right, but 6 companies later, i am bored to death with this thing! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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this is the most commonly used watch case in the industry dating back many years used not only in dive watches but in pilots,sport and dress so I don't see why all the talk about the case ?....it's the similarity in design and differences in cost along with claims of origin that has me wondering with this new crop of 2000m offerings.:D |
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Johnny P Advisor
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oagaspar wrote:it's the similarity in design and differences in cost along with claims of origin that has me wondering with this new crop of 2000m offerings.:D  |
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mcwright Admin
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Here is my version of the Triton cat28.gif Attachment: triton-mcw.jpg (Downloaded 60 times) |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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mcwright wrote:Here is my version of the Triton cat28.gif That's much better Mike. |
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Nabco 3T WIS
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mcwright wrote: Here is my version of the Triton cat28.gif I agree, like this much better woohoo.gif |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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mcwright wrote: Here is my version of the Triton cat28.gif Awesome!....perfect.gif |
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mcwright Admin
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Thanks! I'm gonna guess Debaufre had a version like this (with the skeleton hands most likely) but they went with the two-tone style instead. |
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natevan70 3T WIS 
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I like the Triton case design & bracelet; but prefer the dial and hands on the Schaumburg. Money & movements aside, of course. Last edited on Sat Feb 20th, 2010 03:15 am by natevan70 |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS
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mcwright wrote: Here is my version of the Triton cat28.gif I like the filled hands and orange disc much better nowhand6.gif |
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Graham 3T WIS 
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bigrustypig wrote: mcwright wrote:+1 on that, Mike!Here is my version of the Triton cat28.gif Maybe 3T should design its own forum watch! |
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stew77 Admin 
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mcwright wrote: Here is my version of the Triton cat28.gif Mike....  perfect.gifYour version (with the addition of sliding the "Debaufre" dial logo up into the area previously occupied by the Debaufre "sun") makes this a great looking piece and more "classic" in design IMO. There is something about the "sun" on all the new Debaufre dial designs that somehow speaks "fashion watch" to me...but that is all IMO...people's preferences will always differ. Nicely done!!! Last edited on Sat Feb 20th, 2010 10:18 am by stew77 |
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jstroh 3T WIS 
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Here is yet another possibility: My crude attempt to eliminate the circle around the date, which I have never liked. Joe |
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