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TimeTechTalk.com > Time Tech Talk > Time Talk > Whats the Protocol if you wish to shred a watch company for Cheap made, overpriced, JUNK? |
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Ronin1111 3T WIS 
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I wont start ripping them till I know what I can and cant say. All I can say is this, I just got a phone call from my watch guy saying that The watch I gave him to work on, is not a Chase Durer. The sad thing, is YES. Its a Chase. Its just made that way. So before I go into a review, or slam them, Or start telling my story, I want to know what others wis thoughts are. Ok. Im calmer now. Wow. I about lost my mind a bit ago. |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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Whoa...never heard of this type of situation before . Can you give more details like how you got the watch? AD? The Bay? When? Do you have paperwork? Sad to hear your problem, amigo. |
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Ronin1111 3T WIS
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it was a used beater off the bay, and I really didnt pay that much for it. I had another of the same model, and it was AWESOME! or so i thought. I traded a PVD wing GMT to Hucky on here, and really missed the watch. So i been scouring hi and lo for a replacement. (in the meantime seeing a few rumblings about Chase quality) So I found one. and the people I received it from didnt know it was as hacked as it was. I mean HACKED. the Crown fell off when I went to change the date. So I took it in. No sweat, But when i took the back off. wow. Ive got 15 dollar chinese watches with better movements than this allegedly "swiss made quartz" seriously. and ALL plastic movement holders. nothing holding it together except spit. Now. I may have just gotten a complete hacked one. I am going to go pick it up right now, and will be back in a hour. I do not like to ever be negative, SO i will end this with a postive before I go pick it up and and finish this. The positive? The Battery works!!!  ........ My watch guy, "this isnt a chase" yes it is. "no. its too cheaply made" it is though. " oh. well Ive never had one in my hands before, and they charge so much for them" yes. I am aware sir. " can you run by the hardware store to get me the allen wrench to open this thing up?" LOL. Sure thing. Heck, maybe someone just took out the guts and replaced them. |
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Nabco 3T WIS 
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Ronin1111 wrote: The positive? The Battery works!!! So all in all it wasn't a complete loss then  It sucks this kind of thing happens, but better on an inexpensive watch then something else |
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Ronin1111 3T WIS
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Ok. Fixable problem. Still low quality parts attached to a high price tag. (which means the watch is decent at resale SEE; S-Bay used.) No allen wrench needed. Just some friendly neighborhood Macgyvering from Ace Hardware. |
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deadlyapp 3T WIS 
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That is terrible. Is this universal with chase durer's or just some of them? |
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nanoman 3T WIS 
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You can call Chase-Durer anytime and speak to Marriane Chase who answers the phone many times. 1-800-544-4365 She would help you if any issue. |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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what made you think this brand was anything more than a Asian...made for TV shopping show watch to begin with? coyote2.gif |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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Exactly Oscar. I'm sorry but I'm fairly certain you got a Chase through and through. For the most part what they are hawking these days is not what it is always made out to be. |
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nanoman 3T WIS
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Every Chase-Durer I have purchased has been top knotch. I have not purchased anything under $500 which may make a difference. They no longer associate with the one place they did. I of course can only speak for myself. I do not have anything quartz that is not at least an ETA 251.262 which I think is and incredible movement for my needs. Most I have are automatics and all say Swiss Made which I know only gives me a 51% guaranty. I Chase-Durer was one of the last companies to use some of the non swiss movements in there much lower models. I do not know nearly as much as many of you guys about watch standards but I think Chase is an exception with the quality I have received. |
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mcwright Admin 
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If you purchase a used watch on ebay, there is a risk involved. You aren't much safer buying new. You can strike gold or you can get a piece of crap. A shocking percentage of items sold on ebay these days are fake or counterfeit. I can't see blaming the brand or manufacturer in this case. |
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DOOMSLAYER 3T WIS 
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oagaspar wrote: what made you think this brand was anything more than a Asian...made for TV shopping show watch to begin with? coyote2.gif Wow...harsh. I couldn't disagree more. And frankly, I'm a bit shocked by the blatant snobbery. -Jay |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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Surprising... I would not be surprised that it would be a Chase case who had a movement replaced(home-made cheap repair) or a pure imitation. I don't think CD who take a risk like that: It's meaningless and destructive for them in fact. Swiss battery movements cost 4 peanuts |
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mcwright Admin
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Agreed. Like I said earlier, you should not hold a brand or watch maker responsible for something that is purchased second hand on ebay. |
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akshayb 3T WIS
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mcwright wrote: If you purchase a used watch on ebay, there is a risk involved. You aren't much safer buying new. You can strike gold or you can get a piece of crap. A shocking percentage of items sold on ebay these days are fake or counterfeit. You are correct, I have seen many people who bought HMTs so called mil issue watches from ebay complaining about genuineness of these watches. Most of these watches have painted dials and franked backs. |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Yes, I can't count Omega watches where I noticed home-made Mil-dials with hand painted arrows to push up the value... I never buy a watch on the bay without seeing the movement in pictures: And I advise to do so! The only exeption is a newly bought Russian Diver: But as there's no case back(It's a one-piece case like the Mido Commander) it was never demounted to show the movement. We live in a world of cheaters and I guess that many are placing crapy mvts in good cases to resell the good mvt on the side or use it themself when it's still good! Also, when the Bretling quartz goes in the washing-machine and the mvt grill: Just take a chinese quartz and place it there, sell on the bay with case locked...Voilà!!! |
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Ronin1111 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: what made you think this brand was anything more than a Asian...made for TV shopping show watch to begin with? coyote2.gif Sadly, When I was doing some high end security work a few years back (like 10 years ago) We ALL wanted a chase durer. (when they first came out) I NEVER watch the tv shows, EVER, SO i have no clue what they hawk and what they dont. And I know that most of the stuff they sell is overpriced. However, I still cant say enough good things about a 35 dollar Victa. STRICTLY as a beater though. Ive heard rumblings that Chase May be bad. I can not say good or bad about there customer service, What I can say with CERTAINTY though is this, How can you charge over 500 for a quartz watch that falls apart AND is embedded with a 3 dollars quartz movement. That is my issue (now, I didnt pay that for it, nor did I break the hundo mark. ) But retail is 5 bills. The movement inside it is WORSE than my quartz Zodiac. (post fossil) And I also have to say this, I speak from knowledge of only ONE type of watch of theirs, I couldnt tell you spit about the rest. |
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Ronin1111 3T WIS
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Hammerfjord wrote: Yes, I can't count Omega watches where I noticed home-made Mil-dials with hand painted arrows to push up the value... I never buy a watch on the bay without seeing IM SHOCKED!!! Your saying people lie and cheat and steal? I dont believe you. Now, I DO have some land to sell you down here in florida.... its waterfront property, about 55 miles SE of me. (I live in Cape Coral) COMPLETELY undeveloped. You can get in now while the gettin is good! Ok, in all seriousness, I have owned the exact same model, and LOVED it. but it got traded. yes, this was a hacked, watch that may have been put together by someone else. I will actually know later today for certain. or tom. afternoon |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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DOOMSLAYER wrote: oagaspar wrote:what made you think this brand was anything more than a Asian...made for TV shopping show watch to begin with? coyote2.gif ..you obviuosly seem to have some knowledge I don't and I am more than open to hearing it.  |
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Nighthawk 3T WIS
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I don't know if I can go along with you on this one Oscar. I've seen ads for Chase-Durer watches in magazines like "Motor Trend" and similar years before I ever saw them on the shopping channel we all know and love. (Of course, I don't know if they ever appeared on the predecessor, VVTV.) I personally own two - one is their Strike Force GMT - Swiss made, Quartz, tritium tubes for luminescence. The other is a Starburst automatic on a leather strap - Selita movement, alligator strap and one of the nicest carbon fiber dials I've ever seen. The build quality is excellent and there are small touches like the large signed buckle on the Starburst strap that's notched out so that the buckle lays flat against the strap on your wrist that speak of forethought in design. I can say that the Wing is one of Chase Durer's lower priced pieces and I don't believe that Chase represents it as being Swiss Made. However, based on my experience, I must believe that the OP was unfortunately victimized by a bad eBay seller rather than a bad timepiece. JMHO. Last edited on Thu Apr 1st, 2010 12:56 am by Nighthawk |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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I based my opinion on the Abyss I owned...great looking watch but the overall build was cheap....no matter how I tried to size the bracelet it always had kinks in it and was unconfortable....secondary problem was when the minute hand crossed the hour it would always hang until it was given a tap...I sent it in and it was repaired prompltly but this again was a QC isuue....now this was considered their top of the line at the time at $1000. .....I finally sold it after some time and got $400. ....2 weeks later the guy I sold it to had it up FS.....the bracelet pins were like tiny wires that bent easily so my experience was that the watch was just cheap Asian even though it said Swiss Made we all know the HK factories that build these watches offer a "Swiss Made" service and I heard this from a very good source that they are built in HK....compared to other brands in the same price range I would say the CD was well below in build quality.... ...take away the value pays and most of you guys would not be buying these watches imo as you only have the 1st payment set on your mind as it is said over and over again so the brain only process' that 1st dollar amount and not the full price...outside of Slopnbc I have not seen these watches sold nor discussed as anything more than what I originally stated...there are much better watches in that price range imho....I agree the posters problem was with the seller and not the brand .hand6.gif http://www.timetechtalk.com/view_topic.php?id=14101&forum_id=8&highlight=chase+durer |
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Ronin1111 3T WIS
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OK! Update, picked the watch back up from my watch guy today. 8 dollars, all included to fix, and it was NOT A chase problem. It was some hack that Almost destroyed the crown and stem and then left it hanging, sold it to a pawn shop, (PAWN SHOPS DONT GET MINT WATCHES?? WHo KNew!) So, all fixed, now. I AM going to stick to my guns, the movement is CHEAP. thats it. Retail Price on this Wing GMT is 375-575. I can do a swiss rhonda movement for that price if the fit and finish is ok, This is my second wing, I think the look is outstanding. its all solid, and all it needed was for the Crown and stem to be loved a little. Already switched out the strap to a carbon fiber and received 2 compliments within 30 minutes. (not from my watch guy, he laughs at my obession, thinks the movement is junk. I agree a little) But this from a guy who wears a 1970s quartz seiko. Here is a few pics of the watch in question. I think its got such a style all its own. IMO     |
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TVDinner 3T WIS 
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Great looking watch. Congrats |
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Nabco 3T WIS
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Interesting looking watch there Scott...Congrats woohoo.gif |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Personnaly: "SWISS MVT" on the dial, scares me away each time I see it... This is because the mounting happen in some fuzzy country... Also because each time the house a 2824-2, it's a golden one(Asian mounted) or a 2836-2(same thing). For the quartz, I would even not go there. "SWISS MADE" or "SWISS"(on old models) is a must if I can't see the movement myself before buying. I never saw this C.D before. |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS
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Ronin1111 wrote: OK! Update, picked the watch back up from my watch guy today. 8 dollars, all included to fix, and it was NOT A chase problem. It was some hack that Almost destroyed the crown and stem and then left it hanging, sold it to a pawn shop, (PAWN SHOPS DONT GET MINT WATCHES?? WHo KNew!) All's well that ends well, Scott. Glad you found a fix.  |
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ncvol17 3T WIS 
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There are several AD outlets near the military bases in NC. They advertise them as military/flight timepieces. I have a Command Falcon and it is a sturdy watch for the $$$. |
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ndburley 3T WIS 
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Would like it better in a white or blue dial but the design is fairly cool.  |
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