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shawn 3T WIS
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I know that some of you do not hold him in highest esteem. He is a salesman and is judged by his employers by revenues. But I have enjoyed watching him and have bought a half dozen of his Invicta’s. Some watches he has no control over, but I just got a view of his host choice. Now I like divers watches, I like skeleton watches and I like open heart watches. But this thing??? I might be a newbie and I am slowing down my Invicta purchases in favor of more unique brands, but I do not get this watch. Is it me or am I out growing my TV buddy? How do you spell WSS? Attachment: Invicta Open.jpg (Downloaded 186 times) |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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shawn wrote: I Don't Think He Has Anything To Lose...Truth is He has Less Knowledge about Watches than Most Members on Most Watch Forums....just another Salesman like the ones in the Mall...as far as the Watch...doesn't seem like Much Thought was put into it..a 8926a w/a Open Heart  jmho I know that some of you do not hold him in highest esteem. He is a salesman and is judged by his employers by revenues. But I have enjoyed watching him and have bought a half dozen of his Invicta’s. |
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Gregger 3T WIS 
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Talk about beating a dead horse.......wooo boy, its like scrabble...lets see how many different watches we can make from the same mold:shock: |
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CHEEPS 3T WIS 
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He never saw a watch he didn't find "unbelievable". Which is exactly why so many have discovered his true worth in helping a potential WIS purchase a new watch. Just an occasional bit of realistic truth thrown in with all the hyperbole would go a long way in quieting his detractors. But that is NOT what he gets paid for.................is it?:? A great majority of us "old timers" started with Invicta as a great watch when we discovered the venerable 8926. It is/was simply a great value and a staple in a large majority of WIS's collections. You can't find a better "beater". Unfortunately as we moved up the food chain, and acquired more insight and knowledge, we all realized what a sham this outfit really is. Just a re-brander pushing the majority of their wares via late night home shopping along with bulk knife purchases and linens. As long as they have an audience of new watch enthusiasts, they will continue to mass merchandise to the lowest common denominator with the lowest common watch they can bulk purchase for resale. THIS latest incarnation is just abysmal! :shock: :dude:CHEEPS VOTE FOR SUMREELINFO Last edited on Fri May 5th, 2006 01:32 pm by CHEEPS |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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They added a Sapphire Crystal , New Skelotonized Miyota...and 42mm as stated in the paragraph description...but 43mm in the other Description:?...I would like to see the Back...but at $299...I would wait for the semi Bi-monthly Invicta Clearance..which may be This Weekend....Again :P http://www.shopnbc.com/product/?familyid=J170898&storeid=1&track=260&taxid=260&propid=230,483 |
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Foster 3T WIS 
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Now why wouldn't anyone who's looking for something like that just buy a Sandoz and be done with it? The one from Singapore, of course. |
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jaymz Guest
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I agree with the original post: I have many open heart watches, a number of divers and a couple skeletons. This one, however, is also lost on me. A clash of styles or cross-purposes or something, but the open heart on a diver is just too busy and kind of defeats the purpose of the watch...difficult to get a quick read without the cut- away getting in the way. An abomination. Jim |
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natgas Guest
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Regardless of what anyone thinks of Jim, the watch is just plain ugly! I'll stick with my 8926 coin edge!!! |
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watchboy 3T WIS 
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Ya Randy I agree! The 8926 coin edge with the ALPHA insert on the bezel! :D WTG buddy!!!! natgas wrote: Regardless of what anyone thinks of Jim, the watch is just plain ugly! I'll stick with my 8926 coin edge!!! |
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natgas Guest
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Jacky, where you been hiding??????:D |
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pacifichrono 3T WIS 
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Ken...where are you? Must be out on the golf course or somewhere. He's certainly not online or he would've weighed in on this topic long before this. My opinion? The watch is an abomination and an ill-conceived mess! As for Jim Skelton, I happen think he is a genuine WIS and has taught himself a lot about watches (like most of us). He’s a sales guy on TV and is given a script to use as a guide for his comments. It’s his job to make every watch look good. Tell you what, if I had to comment about a huge range of watches for hours on end, week after week, I’d make ten times the numbers of goofs that he makes. I think the guy needs to be cut some slack. I know I’m in the minority on this issue, but that’s my opinion nonetheless. |
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natgas Guest
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pacifichrono wrote: Ken...where are you? Couldn't have said it better myself (and I didn't)!!!! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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pacifichrono wrote: Tom...I don't remember reading anything about Jim making any Goofs :? I work a Job as Do You and Everyone Here...Jim has chosen TV sales...that is his Job....Do You Make a Bunch of Goofs and Misrepresentations in Your Line of Work ?...I Hope Not ...I Have but also Make Good on Any Goof I Make along With a Sincere Apology :) I don't Know What You Do for a Living Tom but Common Ethics is Something I Bet You Have...Honesty has Always Been the Best Policy ...He'll Get His Slack when He Figures That Out :D JMHO Ken...where are you? |
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mcwright Admin 
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Sorry. I can't agree this watch is ugly. Overpriced? Yes. Ugly? No. It may not be a work of art but a quick scan of shopnbc's Invicta listings for men I can find these watches which to me are far UGLIER than this peek-a-boo diver :D Invicta Men's Stainless Steel Commemorative Edition Grand Diver Watch Invicta Men's Stainless Steel Espadon Chronograph Lorica Strap Watch Invicta Men's Gold-tone Jumping Hours Tresor Globe Watch Invicta Men's Stainless Steel Chronostar Leather Strap Watch Invicta Men's Stainless Steel Multifunction Moonphase Day & Date Display Watch Invicta Men's Aluminum Diver Watch Invicta Men's Stainless Steel Swiss Moonphase Diver Leather Strap Watch Invicta Men's Stainless Steel Lupah Espadon Lorica Strap Watch |
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CHEEPS 3T WIS
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Somehow this seems somewhat ironic! :cool: WHICH Nfecta is the MOST ugly watch?:?:? Decisions. Decisions. :dude:CHEEPS VOTE FOR CUMPLEATIGKNORENG |
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mcwright Admin
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CHEEPS wrote:Somehow this seems somewhat ironic! :cool:I missed a several. I forgot to scan the CLEARANCE SALE!:shock::shock::shock::shock: |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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mcwright wrote: I would Like to See the Watch Live...The New Miyota Movement Being Used is the Same as in the Jacques Lemans Open Heart and Skeleton that was Said to be "Exclusive"to JLM for 1 Year....I'm Not Sure If It Has Been a Year.... but it seems like it hasn't been to me :? The Price is Sure to Go down Before or During this Weeks Invicta Shows...so until I Can see it Live the Jurys Out :P...So ...Question...What Would Be a Good Price ...I Am Interested More in the Movement/Skelotonization from the rear and a 1st for Invicta...Not that..that Will Mean Anything Down the Road :P Sorry. I can't agree this watch is ugly. Overpriced? Yes. Ugly? No. It may not be a work of art but a quick scan of shopnbc's Invicta listings for men I can find these watches which to me are far UGLIER than this peek-a-boo diver :D |
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CHEEPS 3T WIS
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The open heart complication is simply an eyesore, ruining the balance and aesthetics of ALL dials when it is used. JMHO.:cool: I tried to remember if I would have had this same opinion years ago when first becoming a watch addict. I did purchase ONE skeleton watch years ago, long before these forums and my complete loss of common sense, so I guess anything is possible, but a large percenatge of these gimmicks used on these low end watches are just really distracting. The pricing increases seen in the last year and a half have made it MUCH easier to completely ignore a large number of brands, knowing that real Swiss watches can be obtained for roughly the same dollars. :dude:CHEEPS VOTE FOR PHAITKRUSHER |
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mcwright Admin
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O.A. Gaspar wrote:mcwright wrote: |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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mcwright wrote: That's What I'm Thinking Michael :P...and if it's a Dog and doesn't Sell...$89...No Coupon :P Man ...Do I Miss Ol'... 86844101:P O.A. Gaspar wrote: |
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e.avery 3T WIS 
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Hay every body slow down a minute, I have found a new calling explaining how to fix the Invictim POSs. You all are going to take my hobby away. Realy folks with all of the cool watches leave Inv. alone step back from the table and let it go. The design team that designed the watches that you all use to talk about on the old forum left about two + years ago you can only get skrewed so many times. They keep trying to redo old ideas they picked up off the cutting room floor. |
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pacifichrono 3T WIS
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CHEEPS wrote: The open heart complication is simply an eyesore, ruining the balance and aesthetics of ALL dials when it is used.I totally agree! An "open heart" has no more business being part of a diver watch than a padded leather landau roof does on a NASCAR stock car! |
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KenC Admin 
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I am lurking!!! |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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Funny |
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pacifichrono 3T WIS
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KenC wrote: I am lurking!!!That sounds ominous! |
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natgas Guest
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oh god, the lech, er lurker!!!!!:D:D |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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e.avery wrote: Well Said Eric ..and TY for the Info about Design Teams :)..I Still own many of the Invictas We all fell for 2+ years ago and agree with Eric in that the New Team is trying to "One Better" the Designs that made the Company! I have picked up some of the New Renditions and feel they have fallen short of the Originals...except in the Case of the 2014...which they Kept "Original" and added a 2 tone :D I'm not sure Who makes Invicta or Where and We will probably Never know but Until they Clean their "New Act" up I can't get too Excited over anything they come up with Lately ..any Company that just Mass produces Watches like Invicta can only lose in QC trying to keep up...Why does a Watch Company cut their own throats by Undermining their own LE's and Designs by Over Producing..case in Point MOP and CF..I used to Love this Material in Dials ..it was scarce and rarely used...now I'm just Sick of It  jmho...Hey Ken Quit Lurking :P Hay every body slow down a minute, I have found a new calling explaining how to fix the Invictim POSs. You all are going to take my hobby away. Realy folks with all of the cool watches leave Inv. alone step back from the table and let it go. The design team that designed the watches that you all use to talk about on the old forum left about two + years ago you can only get skrewed so many times. They keep trying to redo old ideas they picked up off the cutting room floor. |
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KenC Admin
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O.A. Gaspar wrote: ...Hey Ken Quit Lurking :P Okay, I have stopped lurking and will now.........comment. As you all know, I have several Invicta's which I love (2014/2015, 8926ob, S1 prodiver, 2274/2275, etc), but, I have absolutley no respect for the company because they have instilled true fear into the saying ,"caveat emptor". They have no intellectual (or actual) honesty. As to JS, I truly do not know the extent of his watch knowledge, nor do I really care. To me, Jim Skelton "lost it" when I discovered the depth of his dishonesty, depravity and lack of character and personal ethics. and now...............back to lurking! |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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You just do not like me to day, do you.:P:P:P Just for that I am changing my avitar and going to my happy place. Oscar doesn't like me.:D:D:D Now that was funny Oscar.:D:D:D Last edited on Sat May 6th, 2006 11:33 am by e.avery |
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KenC Admin
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e.avery wrote: You just do not like me to day, do you.:P:P:P  Not to worry.......no matter what...........people will keep buying them. Hopefully, for your sake, they will not buy the good ones and you will prosper!!!  oops! I meant to simply.....lurk.... |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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Just had to pile on didn't you Ken. You all are funny. That is real , and thanks for your support. It is pick on Eric day isn't it and I just didn't know.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D Last edited on Sat May 6th, 2006 11:43 am by e.avery |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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e.avery wrote: Hey...Where Did You get a Pic of My House For Your Avatar :P:P..To show You How Much I Like You Eric...I'm Gonna Buy a New Invicta Today...as Soon as The Prices Come Down :P:P You just do not like me to day, do you.:P:P:P Just for that I am changing my avitar and going to my happy place. Oscar doesn't like me.:D:D:D Now that was funny Oscar.:D:D:D |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS 
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No comment on if Jim has lost it, but I need to ask.......if he's the watch "Guru" why does he do so few shows???? He doesn't work 4 hours a week. 2hours of watches yesterday handled by Daniel Clark? 2 early shows today someone else and Shawn tonight/tomorrow????????? Granted he does do primetime Sunday and Wednesday, but thats it....and rightly so Slop does not have him sell anything else.:( Sorta odd to me:( |
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pacifichrono 3T WIS
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O.A. Gaspar wrote: e.avery wrote: If this is a picture of your house, Oscar, the forum must be doing GREAT! :P  |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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If any one looked the price on the automatic Speedway went up $200 +, from the last time it was on Slop. Not for sure did not get mine there, but tried to keep track of it. I thought they only droped the price to the point it took all of the value out of it. They are saving that for later. Last edited on Sat May 6th, 2006 01:07 pm by e.avery |
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Eddyboy 3T WIS 
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Really begs the question "did he ever have it?" Only 3 years ago he was selling dark glasses and fossil watches in an eyeglass hut somewhere.. He has come a great distance in terms of his personal fortunes. It is amusing how we put him on a pedestal for what we think he is, and come to revile him for lacking the traits we, ourselves have mistakenly attributed to him. JS is a hawker of TV merchandise to late night, sleep deprived people. He sells by promoting an illusory comparative value to truly great watches, and by creating a false sense of urgency in his following. As his followers become increasingly knowledgeable, his relevancy is reduced by a similar degree. As long as we endlessly discuss him, his perceived credibility will remain pretty high. This is why you are asking the question "Has JS lost it?". ...Nope...Never had it to begin with. IMHO it is time that JS became a non factor in our watch world. New Wissers who let him do their thinking do so at their peril. JS is there to sell thousands and thousands of watches. His prime directive is to move product. Whether or not he is a real watch fancier is entirely beside the point (and rather a good smoke screen). First and forever, he is a peddler whose job it is to sell many thousands of watches a week. JS hasn't lost a thing. He is steady as Gibralter, and predictable as George Bush the younger. Last edited on Sat May 6th, 2006 03:31 pm by Eddyboy |
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KenC Admin
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pacifichrono wrote: O.A. Gaspar wrote:e.avery wrote: :D If you look real closely, you will notice that Oscar's house is not real stone. Those are "asphalt shingles" from the 1950's........  |
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KenC Admin
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e.avery wrote: Just had to pile on didn't you Ken. You all are funny. That is real , and thanks for your support. It is pick on Eric day isn't it and I just didn't know.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D That's why I was just lurking until I was "brought out" by all of the "evil-doers"! |
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pacifichrono 3T WIS
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KenC wrote: e.avery wrote:Just had to pile on didn't you Ken. You all are funny. That is real , and thanks for your support. It is pick on Eric day isn't it and I just didn't know.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D We're trying to bring you over to the Dark Side! |
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Or Ology Guest
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O.A. Gaspar wrote: I would wait for the semi Bi-monthly Invicta Clearance..which may be This Weekend....Again :P LOL!!! I honestly did laugh out loud. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Or Ology wrote: After watching Shawn this Weekend w/That Howdy Doody Shirt about a Couple Sizes too Small...I can Say that Invicta Has No Hold on Me Anymore....but the Shirt Was Worth Watching O.A. Gaspar wrote:I would wait for the semi Bi-monthly Invicta Clearance..which may be This Weekend....Again :P |
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CHEEPS 3T WIS
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Pretty sure it was a "blouse" Oscar! Just can't figure where he would have obtained it. ;);););) :dude:CHEEPS VOTE FOR NAMETAGSWIDGINDUR |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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CHEEPS wrote: Looked Flannel or something in that area...probably a Abercrombie & Frump :P.....or ...."Hey Look at this Perfectly Good Shirt Someone Was Throwing Out" :P...Man I miss those Late Nite Watch Shows We used to stay up and Watch just to Critique them on the Old Invicta Forum :P Pretty sure it was a "blouse" Oscar! |
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CHEEPS 3T WIS
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I think it was more probably............... Thor & Edna's Neuter Neutral House of Fashion ! :shock::shock::shock: :dude:CHEEPS VOTE FOR TRANSGINDURTROOTH |
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