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 Posted: Sat Jun 24th, 2006 03:51 am
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IMHO, it's akin to saying that a "Hybrid" Auto ...

... Runs on an Internal Combustion Engine! ... 
 



 

Remember the Olds 4-4-2? 



400 cu.in., 4 speed*, 2 (dual) exhausts.  Maybe GM could produce a special commemorative edition, equipped with a 3.8 litre V6, auto trans, and a nice big single pipe!

* Later changed to mean 4bbl carb when they realized they couldn't sell enough manual trans models.  Oops!

 

Oh yeah! ... We (GTO owners) used to smoke "Daddy's Oldsmobiles" every time one challenged us!  But I digress!
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 pacifichrono wrote: Doofus wrote:

IMHO, it's akin to saying that a "Hybrid" Auto ...

... Runs on an Internal Combustion Engine! ... 
 



 

Remember the Olds 4-4-2? 



400 cu.in., 4 speed*, 2 (dual) exhausts.  Maybe GM could produce a special commemorative edition, equipped with a 3.8 litre V6, auto trans, and a nice big single pipe!

* Later changed to mean 4bbl carb when they realized they couldn't sell enough manual trans models.  Oops!

 

Although........wasn't the automatic trans a 4-speed also........soecifically, a Hurst 4-speed?
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 KenC wrote:
The Hurst Shifter was Used in the 442 and was a 4 speed manual tranny on the Floor....the 4spd automatic tranny didn't come along until the late 60's( luxury cars) to mid 70's...2/3 speed autos were all that were available :D The Hurst Shifter Was the Shifter of Choice By All Drag Racers Then :cool: pacifichrono wrote: Doofus wrote:

IMHO, it's akin to saying that a "Hybrid" Auto ...

... Runs on an Internal Combustion Engine! ... 
 



 

Remember the Olds 4-4-2? 



400 cu.in., 4 speed*, 2 (dual) exhausts.  Maybe GM could produce a special commemorative edition, equipped with a 3.8 litre V6, auto trans, and a nice big single pipe!

* Later changed to mean 4bbl carb when they realized they couldn't sell enough manual trans models.  Oops!

 

Although........wasn't the automatic trans a 4-speed also........soecifically, a Hurst 4-speed?
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 Was it a 400 auto trans. that was used in it 0?

O.A. Gaspar wrote:
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The Hurst Shifter was Used in the 442 and was a 4 speed manual tranny on the Floor....the 4spd automatic tranny didn't come along until the late 60's( luxury cars) to mid 70's...2/3 speed autos were all that were available :D The Hurst Shifter Was the Shifter of Choice By All Drag Racers Then :cool: pacifichrono wrote: Doofus wrote:

IMHO, it's akin to saying that a "Hybrid" Auto ...

... Runs on an Internal Combustion Engine! ... 
 



 

Remember the Olds 4-4-2? 



400 cu.in., 4 speed*, 2 (dual) exhausts.  Maybe GM could produce a special commemorative edition, equipped with a 3.8 litre V6, auto trans, and a nice big single pipe!

* Later changed to mean 4bbl carb when they realized they couldn't sell enough manual trans models.  Oops!

 

Although........wasn't the automatic trans a 4-speed also........soecifically, a Hurst 4-speed?
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 But, the 442 was with us all through the 70's, and then some.  It was originally a 330 cu block:

  • Oldsmobile 442 - began as a 1964 muscle car option package (4-barrel carburetor, 4-speed manual transmission, 2 exhausts) on the F-85/Cutlass series. In 1965 to better compete with Pontiac's GTO the original 330 cubic-inch V8 rated at 310 horsepower was replaced by a new 400 cubic-inch V8 rated at 345 horsepower. The 4-4-2 definition was changed to "4" hundred-cubic-inch V8 engine, "4" barrel carburetor, "2" exhaust pipes. In later years the 4-4-2 became its own model series on the Olds intermediate body and got an even larger 455 in³ (7.4 L) V8 engine in 1970.
    • Additional info:

    Olds FAQ -- 442 Years of Production


           1964
           1965
           1966
           1967
           1968
           1969
           1970
           1971
           1972
           1973
           1974
           1975
           1976
           1977
           1978
           1979
           1980
           1985
           1986
           1987
           1990
           1991

    Meaning(s)
      Definition of 4-4-2 from the Oldsmobile Factory Literature:
      1964 (Original meaning)
      4: Four Barrel Carburetion
      4: Four On the Floor
      2: Dual Exhausts

      1965 (First year of automatic transmission option on 442)
      4: 400 Cubic Inch Displacement
      4: Four Barrel Carburetion
      2: Dual Exhausts

      1985 to 1987 (Last of RWD 442s)
      4: Four speed automatic
      4: Four barrel carburetor
      2: Dual exhaust

      1990 and 1991 (FWD 442)
      4: Four cylinders
      4: Four valves
      2: Two camshafts


    O.A. Gaspar wrote:
    KenC wrote:
    The Hurst Shifter was Used in the 442 and was a 4 speed manual tranny on the Floor....the 4spd automatic tranny didn't come along until the late 60's( luxury cars) to mid 70's...2/3 speed autos were all that were available :D The Hurst Shifter Was the Shifter of Choice By All Drag Racers Then :cool: pacifichrono wrote: Doofus wrote:

    IMHO, it's akin to saying that a "Hybrid" Auto ...

    ... Runs on an Internal Combustion Engine! ... 
     



     

    Remember the Olds 4-4-2? 



    400 cu.in., 4 speed*, 2 (dual) exhausts.  Maybe GM could produce a special commemorative edition, equipped with a 3.8 litre V6, auto trans, and a nice big single pipe!

    * Later changed to mean 4bbl carb when they realized they couldn't sell enough manual trans models.  Oops!

     

    Although........wasn't the automatic trans a 4-speed also........soecifically, a Hurst 4-speed?
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    		 It's kind of weird to me.  It would have made a lot more sense if they called their quartz watches Accutrons and the mechanicals Bulova, or if they had come up with a new name for the mechanicals, like Accu-Mech.  But a brand name's just a brand name,

    Dan:)
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    		 e.avery wrote:
    Eric...I believe the Hydra-Matic was used in 64-67 by Olds which would have been a D,1,2,...and in 68 with the Body Change and when the 455 cu.in was available in the 442's they  Used a 400 Trans...D,1,2,3 or known as the 4spd automatic....the Engines in the Early 442's were a 400 cu.in. 350hp V-8 64-67'.The 455 cu.in was Short Lived due to Government Concerns and After 72' were No Longer Available in the Cutlass or 442...unless it was Built in Canada...later in the 73-75 Hurst Olds the 455 resurfaced but much detuned:dude:..see the 442 Link below for Trans available in the 442's...

    http://www.oldsmobility.com/transmission.htm    Was it a 400 auto trans. that was used in it 0?

    O.A. Gaspar wrote:
    KenC wrote:
    The Hurst Shifter was Used in the 442 and was a 4 speed manual tranny on the Floor....the 4spd automatic tranny didn't come along until the late 60's( luxury cars) to mid 70's...2/3 speed autos were all that were available :D The Hurst Shifter Was the Shifter of Choice By All Drag Racers Then :cool: pacifichrono wrote: Doofus wrote:

    IMHO, it's akin to saying that a "Hybrid" Auto ...

    ... Runs on an Internal Combustion Engine! ... 
     



     

    Remember the Olds 4-4-2? 



    400 cu.in., 4 speed*, 2 (dual) exhausts.  Maybe GM could produce a special commemorative edition, equipped with a 3.8 litre V6, auto trans, and a nice big single pipe!

    * Later changed to mean 4bbl carb when they realized they couldn't sell enough manual trans models.  Oops!

     

    Although........wasn't the automatic trans a 4-speed also........soecifically, a Hurst 4-speed?
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     Posted: Sat Jun 24th, 2006 02:21 pm
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    		 When the 4-4-2 was introduced in 1964, it was not available with an auto trans.  In 1965 and 1966 Olds fitted it with their two-speed Jetaway automatic.  In 1967, GM upgraded the offering to the "corporate" TH400 three-speed automatic.
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