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james Henderson Guest
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Hello - James Henderson here of Orsa USA. Martin and I are PROUD to give you a sneak preview of the newest Orsa Sea Angler. I am NOT going to give you a delivery date (although I will tell you that with luck, it will be deliverable before Christmas!), and I will NOT give the sales price yet - hang in there! I will tell you that it ROCKS, is produced by our friends in Switzerland, and Martin has exceeded himself this time! While I have your attention, I want to let you know about some changes we've made - US based service center, we are doing the "beta run" of a loaner program whereby we send you an Orsa to wear while yours is being serviced, active response team (okay, a team of one, but I am DEDICATED), nifty new ideas to make the Orsa experience an even better one for you - including - hold on - the Orsa Club - more details to follow about that! Hats, t-shirts, etc. are promised! I cannot promise, but what if... we produced a limited edition 3T Orsa Sea Angler - would there be any takers? How would you like it to look? Both Martin and I, and our pals in Oceania and France are REALLY excited about this new phase for Orsa! We hope to launch an Orsa forum soon - Is this something that might be hosted by 3T? Enough for one evening, but I look forward to hearing from you! Your accomplice in time - James Henderson Orsa USA james@orsawatchco.com Martin Berger http://www.orsawatchco.com Attachment: SeaAnglerfront2.jpg (Downloaded 147 times) |
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e.avery 3T WIS 
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looks great to me!!! It is on my list a soon as it comes out count me in.:D |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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Welcome to 3T James and Orsa Watches I am pleased to have met you and exchanged e-mails !...it's a small world :) I personally am a Huge Orsa fan and just the thought of a 3T Orsa LE has me reeling Buddy!... Thank you for the sneak peek of the upcoming Orsa and we all are excited to have you and Orsa on Board hand6.gif |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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James let me ask you a question about the current release of the Sea Angler, does the dial have 3 diff. elevations or is it an illusion due to the graphical design work on the dial? From the date window the dial appears flat just was not sure and have wanted to ask. |
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daanbc 3T WIS 
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I'll have to pass on the latest. Really nice that it is all luminus, but I myself like color. I am VERY interested in the L.E. though. Thanks so much for the update. Nice to see there are some buss. out there that know of customer service.! Last edited on Sat Sep 2nd, 2006 09:26 am by daanbc |
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KenC Admin 
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Very cool, and thank you........................but does it come in anything other than a white dial? Blue? Black? ..................ot better yet, Yellow or Orange? |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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KenC wrote: Ken...see this link Buddy:) Orsas are made as a LE of 50 only...Orange and Black have already been produced and Sold Out but there is a limited amount of the new Silver Dial left for pre-order...the one Pictured is a All Lume Dial!...Hope this Helps hand6.gif the link has the Orsa site with more info watch2.gif http://www.timetechtalk.com/view_topic.php?id=3680&forum_id=1 Very cool, and thank you........................but does it come in anything other than a white dial? Blue? Black? ..................ot better yet, Yellow or Orange? |
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james Henderson Guest
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Hello All - I will try briefly answer all of the questions asked - 1. Color - as some of you so aptly stated, Orsa runs limited editions of 50. Although we have already run Orange and Black, you never know, we might bring black and/orange back - please let us know! 2. Blue could be in the works, although we already did one in quartz some time ago. 3. As far as the dial goes, I believe that it is "multi-layered". I have not seen the dial "in person" yet, but promise an update on this question. All the best - James Henderson Orsa USA |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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I would be very pleased to see a 3T edition...I bet we could get 50 sold post haste. I would prefer a sapphire cyrstal be standard and not an add on and would expect pricing to remain as it is is near the $500 mark. I love my orange sea angler, thought about a silver Swiss made but held off... I don't think I could resist a LE for 3T. Pax |
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KenC Admin
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I've always loved the ORSA look but every one I saw listed was quartz (a personal no-no). I just recently became aware of the ORSA automatic and would be very interested in a 3T.............especially if it were a 1st in yellow!!!! |
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obsidian 3T WIS 
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Say, e.avery, is that a d.freemont BTP in your avatar? I have number 7! |
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obsidian 3T WIS
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james Henderson wrote2. Blue could be in the works, although we already did one in quartz some time ago. I think blue would be a great idea. I've noticed that the preowned blue quartz Orsa's are much in demand now that they're no longer being produced. The blue used in those dials seems to be unique-- I've never seen another watch with exactly that kind of blue dial. Stowa's comes closest, but it's not quite the same. I think blue would sell. |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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Yes, it is and I think it is a nice piece. O is or has picked one up and has not disclosed the # yet. |
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Or Ology Guest
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I have the orange Orsa quartz. I am NOT a quartz guy, but I couldn't resist this one. The lume is amazing (no, not as good as Monster lume, but still excellent). I would be interested in an LE 3T Orsa automatic with sapphire crystal, especially if it were in a blue, yellow, or red dial. |
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Or Ology Guest
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Pretty sure Oscar grabbed this one http://www.pmwf.com/cgi-bin/SalesForum/webbbs_config.cgi?noframes;read=44566 which would mean he has number 9. That means he has The Beatles watch. Number 9, number 9, number 9... |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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Or Ology wrote: Pretty sure Oscar grabbed this one You're right he did!! and thanks for the White Album flashback... Pax |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Eric...Craig and Pax...You are all Right!...I did get a BTP #9...thanks to "Tony the Enabler" watch2.gifhand6.gif...I hope to receive it in the early part of the week...I can't wait to see that Dial and Movement eyes18.gif |
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canadajo 3T WIS 
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COUNT me in .... I would want a 3T edition in a heartbeat..... I will also be in line for that lum face .....that is AWESOME ........ |
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daanbc 3T WIS
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Count me in as well for the Limited 3T,But it has to be saphire. |
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james Henderson Guest
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Hello all, I spoke with Martin, and providing we can sell it out - that means commited orders of at least 45, we can run it. HOWEVER - A few things that will be different and therefore would most likely increase the price: Special packaging - we are thinking of some sort of a presentation box with a screw driver and extra strap, additional set of lug screws. Saph. Crystal - this will obviously increase the price A few extra surprise goodies - I'd tell you, but well, it's a surprise. So we need some information from all of you before we move forward: What color dial would you like? What color hands? Automatic - or how about hand wound? I do need to remind all readers - Orsa warranties will NOT be transferable to new owners. Your warranty will be in YOUR name, with your address and your phone number on the warranty. Please feel free to get back to me with any quesitons you might have. All the best - James Henderson - Orsa USA (for Martin Berger - Orsa World-Wide) |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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james Henderson wrote: James..Ty again for bringing this to Light for us here at 3T :) I think the members will have to put their heads together to decide on a Color Scheme and Movement.Personally to make the Orsa 3T persoanlized I would like to see something on the Watch with our "Green" color in the logo and "3T" somewhere on the Watch ..whether it be hands/second hand or otherwise but I would be open to the majority hand6.gifSecondly the members need to know a Saphire upgrade is $110.If a hand wound movement would be decided on would it be a Unitas or other..and will it have an exhibition back or solid caseback...a eta 2824-2 would be the most bulletproof though! I know as many here from experience that all tastes do not run alike and that Final Price will be the selling factor watch2.gifI say keep it simple...or as much to the originals as possible with some minor aesthetics like Color to keep costs down.I have one of the New Silver Dial Orsas on order w/an upgraded Saphire crystal...and when it arrives I can compare it to my Black Dial w/mineral Camera_photos.giI like the Idea of the "Extras" as it will make it more 3T individualized...so if the members are interested we can start a Design Thread and possibly have some of our 3T Design Oriented/Photoshop members give us a few possible looks as far as Color of Dial and or Hands!...so 3T members let's hear/see some Ideas cool10.gif Hello all, |
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canadajo 3T WIS
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I CONCUR ............................O.A. Gaspar wrote: |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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I agree with O the 2824-2 with dial or hand mods would be the most economical and in the end the easiest to sell the quantity. The packaging I do not wear so if the cost is an issue my vote is to what ever will make the best bang for the buck. The hand crank would depend on the interior cross section, it may not be worth a redesign of the case and dial to just fit a Unitas. |
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james Henderson Guest
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Hello again, Just wanted to touch base on your feedback so far - in terms of the movement, I agree that we all love the eta. But I also feel that it is always nice to be asked! Keep in touch with your wants/wishes - All the best - James Henderson Orsa Watch USA james@orsawatchco.com |
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daanbc 3T WIS
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I like the colors-Blue/Yellow/Green like the rolex's, I also like see thru-backs. On the other hand I also would like to keep the price in a good budget. Now your getting me to drowl all over my key board.LOL. |
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canadajo 3T WIS
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I would personally prefer green and a solid caseback !!!!! And a saf crystal.....and I would love to see a price under 600 Last edited on Mon Sep 4th, 2006 12:18 am by canadajo |
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Oscar................someone mentioned a price of $500 as being acceptable.. If that is, in fact, an acceptable price, then I think we should ask James exactly what we could get for that and what variable would apply to customize it. Then we could get: 1st commitments (and a small deposit) for the # needed, and 2nd, we could then discuss/vote/whatever on the design within the variables/options offered. The last thing I want to see is an embarrassing fiasco like IT/BDWF went through with months of design, etc. and then could not raise the # of sales needed! jmho.............we can discuss via phone this week. |
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yamahaki Guest
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I like the case design already. a metal 22mm bracelet to me is a must have for that watch. I will post up a color mock up of a blue one with 3t green mixed in soon. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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yamahaki wrote: TY,Sean!!!!bowing.gif I like the case design already. a metal 22mm bracelet to me is a must have for that watch. I will post up a color mock up of a blue one with 3t green mixed in soon. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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KenC wrote: Good Idea Ken...I'll call you during the week or tomorrow if you're not on the Links,Buddy hand6.gif Oscar................someone mentioned a price of $500 as being acceptable.. If that is, in fact, an acceptable price, then I think we should ask James exactly what we could get for that and what variable would apply to customize it. Then we could get: |
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nrg 3T WIS 
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Here's a mock up of a possible design. Comments and suggestions welcome. Borrowed your pic O, I hope you don't mind. |
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yamahaki Guest
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need to add a bracelet and finish colors, maybe change the bezel color, but nothing to add to the overall cost. Attachment: orsa.jpg (Downloaded 80 times) |
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yamahaki Guest
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oopsface5.gif Attachment: orsa copy.jpg (Downloaded 80 times) |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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nrg wrote: It's Obvious Glen Knows My Tastes !......  Here's a mock up of a possible design. Comments and suggestions welcome. Borrowed your pic O, I hope you don't mind. |
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daanbc 3T WIS
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That blue is awesome! |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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Great looking passes gentlemen. I'll have to chime in with my thoughts. I am very interested in a 3T LE but not very interested in an overall enhanced presentation to include box, tools and straps. Frankly I have all the boxes, tools and straps I need and don't want to blow bang on extras. I want all the bang to be spent on the watch. Send the sucker in the standard cardboard box!! I feel the tried and true Sea Angler with modded dial, hands and bezel would make for a wonderful 3T LE. Exactly what that means reamins to be seen. The watch must have a sapphire crystal as all Sea Anglers should...mine doesn't!! Price also reamins a concern. with a guaranteed order of 45 pieces we should recive special pricing. I may be out of line but I fear James' feedback leads me to think perhaps Orsa would like to sell 45 $1000 Special Editions. don't know about y'all, but that won't fly for me as I feel the Sea Angler is a moderatley priced tool diver with a lot of bang for the buck. Again, I don't need sevearl hundred dollars worth of premium packaging and special tools. That being said I like what I've seen and heard, expect pricing to play a part and sincerely hope this comes to fruition with a 3T LE that I can wear with pride. I WANT GREEN ON THAT SUCKER!! Cheers, Pax Last edited on Mon Sep 4th, 2006 10:43 am by Paxman |
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james Henderson Guest
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Dear Pax, Fair concern, but clearly you don't know me that well - I am CHEAP! Part of the pricing structure of Orsas is to keep them affordable. Having said that, people are asking for saph. crystals, and a special logo dial. Will that drive the price through the roof - of course not! However, it will add to the price. I cannot state for certain what the final price will be - I am imagining between $500 - $600 would be the area we're talking about, but stay tuned. James Henderson Orsa USA |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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james Henderson wrote: Dear Pax, James- I prefer the term thrifty!! This is exactly what I would want and expect...but this is just one member's opinion. I look forward to learning more. Pax |
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yamahaki Guest
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in a marathon case Attachment: orsa-finished.jpg (Downloaded 53 times) |
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yamahaki Guest
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better rez |
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yamahaki Guest
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in orsa case Attachment: orsaflarefinal.jpg (Downloaded 47 times) |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Sean you're concepts are awesome but I don't think a Marathon Case is going to come into play :P:P We need to keep it simple to keep costs down and the more deviations from The Sea Angler we travel the more it will cost so everyone Please keep this in mind hand6.gif....Extra frills are nice but Bottom Line is going to be Price...Some of Us have already been through this process and the longer it takes to come to an agreement the longer the 3TLE will take to get to the Manufacturer...Plus How Many Members will be Committed to Spending $500-$600 on a 3T Orsa LE....this is the Very Bottom Line...so let's see some Hands before We even get Started ...jmhocool10.gif |
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yamahaki Guest
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I did put it back in a orsa case:D Give me a flat pic of the dial oscar, and some input from other members about colors and what to put on the dial. At the moment its just a idea. a rough draft. With some more input I can run inventor and do a working model. Orsa already has a awesome case. the bezel needs to be toned down and less prone to taking a hit. When I get another one I'll design solid end-links so any bracelet will fit:cool: |
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daanbc 3T WIS
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I will deff. take one! I am already preparing to sell two maybe three of my watches that don't get to much wrist time anymore. Like I said before, must have saph. for the lens. As for color I like blue, braclet is nice, but since I recieved my orange monster with the rubber on it, I kind of like it=comfy. See thru-back is nice. But to tell the truth I am preeety tight on my pockets opening. LOL $500-625 is ok with me, more? I don't think i'd do it. |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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I would take one or 2 depending on the price and little one insisting that she gets a watch for every one I buy, I created a monster. I do not have to have Sapphire if it would help us make the 45 sold goal. Hell it would be worth buying 2 to see a 5' 90lbs female try to wear it. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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e.avery wrote: I'm with Eric...I'm good for at least 2...saphire is of no importance but would be nice and Like Pax said..."I need some Green on that Sucker"  I would take one or 2 depending on the price and little one insisting that she gets a watch for every one I buy, I created a monster. I do not have to have Sapphire if it would help us make the 45 sold goal. Hell it would be worth buying 2 to see a 5' 90lbs female try to wear it. |
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yamahaki Guest
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I would be in for 2 also.They are a great watch. |
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james Henderson Guest
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Hello one and all - I have forwarded the final scan to Martin in Quebec - he is the decision maker for Orsa. I want to say that - I do believe that we can run ths line - I WANT TO RUN THIS LINE!!! A few ground rules before we go any further - we may only be able to do 25 - we would need 45 solid answers to move forward. Second - we are contemplating NOT allowing people to order more than one Sea Angler from a sales run - to prevent people from securing several pieces and then "ebaying" them on. Please know - this has nothing to do with ordering watches for wives, etc. - my wife Wendy is still hanging on to my Explorer for dear life! Some day......we do hope that our non-transferable warranty will address this. So if you want two, no problem, but remember that the warranty will be in one name, one name only and not transferable. Lastly, it will probably be a WHILE before we can deliver the run - most likely May of 2007 - can everyone live with that? We LOVE the blue/green/yellow idea. Stay tuned! James Henderson - ORSA USA |
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canadajo 3T WIS
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I like your attempts for the special edition Mr Yamahaki ....I emplore you to stick with the regular orsa case...solid caseback please...Like Pax I would like the regular cardboard presentation to keep the cost down....mineral crystal is okay too, if it keeps the cost to where we can guarentee 45 orders....I would like green in some way shape or form...to make it a true 3T edition............. |
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james Henderson Guest
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MARCH - NOT MAY!!!! Sorry for the scare - take two months off of that date! March 2007 James Henderson Orsa USA |
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james Henderson wrote: Hello one and all - |
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I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, but that blue/lime/yellow thing hurts my eyescoyote2.gif and I find it impossible to read.........................looks like a novelty watch to me instead of a serious timepiece! I do like the simplistic, classic look that Glen 1st posted! jmho yamahaki wrote: in orsa case |
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yamahaki Guest
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I think Mr. Henderson might be referring to other things. not so much on the colors but maybe the deeply inset chapter ring, the hand design or something else that caught his eye. Maybe they will make there own mock up and get all of our input like was done for the scorpion and ocean 7. |
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james Henderson Guest
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Hi All, First of all - Mr. Henderson is my father - James please! Secondly - In terms of design, I like them all! BUT - you are the design team, not me! You are the folks who will be buying and wearing the 3T version if we can get it sorted out. So please let us know which model/s are in the running! As I said, if the 3T team can reach a consensus, and if Martin can sign off on the design, and if we can reach our minimum run # then we might be able to deliver as early as March of 07. All the best - James Henderson Orsa USA |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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KenC wrote: I agree....What Final Scan?????? WHAT FINAL SCAN??? |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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Thanks very much James. And I agree we have no final scan. I guess we better get it together!! It appears we better get some ideas and get a consensus. James, may we expect any help from Orsa's design team? Pax |
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james Henderson Guest
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Sorry - MOST RECENT SCAN! The final will be decided by all of you! Sorry for the poor communication there! James Henderson Orsa USA |
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james Henderson Guest
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Hello all - Yes of course, Martin and crew LOVE to bust into "design mode" so I think it goes without saying that they will add their imput. With the move to a new assembly house in Switzerland, and two new models hopefully "hitting" before Christmas, we are a wee-bit distracted at the moment, but Martin is following along, and he will be posting here shortly. James |
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james Henderson Guest
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Hi - again - apologies - MOST RECENT SCAN - James |
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canadajo 3T WIS
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I agree with KenC , in that we want a SERIOUS timepeice...we also want it personalized for us......we also like having a say in a watch we can be proud to own....... I just hope we can all agree so we can make this happen |
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daanbc 3T WIS
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James, Am I understanding you correctly? You said you can do 25 but need at least 45 to order? Does this mean some of us may not be able to order? Like I said before the blue/yellow/green colors are all acceptable, But I do believe the watch should have a saph. crystal for the money we are spending. Doesn't anybody concur with that? |
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james Henderson Guest
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Hi there - I seem to have a leaky brain this week, and for whatever reason, not stating clearly what I mean to! In principle, we like to run 50 total. Having said that, the question that I am asking Martin is what can we do if we don't get 50 total orders? It sems that at least 25 of the 3T folks want one which is great! I am merely trying to explore every avenue to make sure that it can happen. Believe me, it is not an effort to "shorten" the supply, and Martin and I would much rather sell 50 than 25! I hope that - and the miscommunication about "Final vs. latest" is now clarified! I will work on getting some more sleep this week! Your friend at Orsa - James Henderson |
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daanbc wrote: James, Am I understanding you correctly? You said you can do 25 but need at least 45 to order? Does this mean some of us may not be able to order? Like I said before the blue/yellow/green colors are all acceptable, But I do believe the watch should have a saph. crystal for the money we are spending. Doesn't anybody concur with that? Dan, I agree that sapphire is very nice, but to me, not having it is not a deal breaker. Mineral and synthetic sapphire have the same optical qualities and offsetting advantages/disadvantages. Sapphire is less susceptible to scratching, but shatters more easily while Mineral is just the opposite. My personal experience is that (in 50 some years of watch wearing), I have never scratched a mineral crystal, but I have shattered a sapphire. I even have one 40 year old watch (bought new and worn daily in extreme conditions) that has its original acrylic crystal......and yes, it has been polished out several times. I guess the bottom line is, would a sapphire crystal be worth the $110 upkick mention somewhere earlier in the thread. Personally, I can't even begin to believe that's the real price when Bill Yao can have a custom made sapphire crystal manufactured for the Seiko Monster's and retail it for $60. jmho |
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daanbc 3T WIS
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Ken I agree with you, but unlike yourself I have had several of my non-saph. crystals scratched. I guess I am hard on watches. I also work in a Max. jail. That alone puts my watches threw alot others are not. I have banged up alot on the bars and walls. I am not saying that I'd wear my orsa in the jail, But to me its a piece of mind thing. You point is well taken though. |
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daanbc wrote: Ken I agree with you, but unlike yourself I have had several of my non-saph. crystals scratched. I guess I am hard on watches. I also work in a Max. jail. That alone puts my watches threw alot others are not. I have banged up alot on the bars and walls. I am not saying that I'd wear my orsa in the jail, But to me its a piece of mind thing. You point is well taken though. So.........when were you 1st incarcerated???  My 40 year old Glycine has been thru 2 combat tours in RVN plus serving me well climbing in and out of tanks..........but that is the beauty of acrylic (which so many look on with disdain). It buffs out on a jeweler's wheel in a heartbeat! Don't know what ORSA would charge, but I'll bet you could change out 3 or 4 minerals for that $110 sapphire upkick charge! |
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daanbc 3T WIS
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Its been 16 years now. |
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Chief_Charlie Guest
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What's happening with the Orsa 3T Limited Edition? Nothing on this site or the Orsa site for a while...................... I'm ready to order. Show me THE WATCH ! Last edited on Thu Oct 5th, 2006 10:43 pm by |
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Chief_Charlie wrote: What's happening with the Orsa 3T Limited Edition? Nothing on this site or the Orsa site for a while...................... I'm ready to order. Show me THE WATCH ! It is a done deal....................Oscar will be getting cut #1 on Oct xx post pictures and the rest will follow! cool10.gif |
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Chief_Charlie Guest
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KenC wrote: Chief_Charlie wrote:What's happening with the Orsa 3T Limited Edition? Nothing on this site or the Orsa site for a while...................... I'm ready to order. Show me THE WATCH ! Can you translate "and the rest will follow"? Does that mean the ability to order one will then open up/be posted on 3T; or they're all already spoken for, and everyone else gets theirs after Oscar? I'm a little new to this forum. Thank you Charlie |
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Chief_Charlie wrote: Charlie...Welcome!hand6.gif...If you only joined though to purchase a Orsa/3T LE...than I am sorry as there are a couple hundred members ahead of you!.............there will only be 33 available Total and will be exclusively sold on 3T!...many of which are already spoken for and the rest of the members are waiting to see the final result once it arrives ....so in saying that I would expect that they will sell out and although Your participation is very Welcome I doubt you will be a recipient as many actively posting members have been here for a year or so ahead of you...but in case there may be a few leftover you are more than welcome to one...you can pm me with your interests:) KenC wrote:Chief_Charlie wrote:What's happening with the Orsa 3T Limited Edition? Nothing on this site or the Orsa site for a while...................... I'm ready to order. Show me THE WATCH ! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Please check your private messages Charlie:) |
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