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| Posted: Tue Sep 26th, 2006 10:15 pm |
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KenC Admin 
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let me simply say that RandallM (RandallWatch@yahoo.com) just reneged on a deal on a Vintage Seiko 7016. He quoted a price on WUS Sales Corner. I accepted the price. I asked him for what form of payment he would like. He sent me his paypal email address. I immediately paypal'd him the funds. He refused the funds stating that he doesn't take credit cards. I then asked him to explain to me how to do otherwise and also offered to send him a Cashier's Check. The curt response received from this POS was "The deal is off"! I don't knoew if this unethical scumbag is the same guy that does watch mods and runs the Seiko Citizen Trading Forum associated with SCWF , it may just be someone trading on his name. This is not about not getting a watch I "had to have".....it is about unprincipled dirtbags who show up on forum to hawk their wares. In my world, a man's word is his bond.......apparently not so in RandallM's world! Many of you have done business with me and know that I conduct myself honorably! I have keep an email trail if anyone would like verification of the sequence of events.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27th, 2006 06:43 am |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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Sorry to hear of this Ken!....especially happening to you! I know $ is not an issue with you but why some sellers have a problem with cradit card PP accounts is beyond me?....even so if you were 1st in line which you obviously ...bottom line is the seller should have honored the Sale!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27th, 2006 09:36 am |
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KenC Admin
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O.A. Gaspar wrote: Sorry to hear of this Ken!....especially happening to you! The real ignorance of this POS is that he did not state anything up front concerning special payment requirements, not even when asked.............he simply rejected the payment and cancelled the deal!puke.gif I'm sure he is somehow related to JS! 
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27th, 2006 10:14 am |
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Gregger 3T WIS 
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Ken, did you offer full price? MAybe someone came along shortly after and gave him full price. Hell I just strated to use paypal and it's as simple as sh#@!!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27th, 2006 10:23 am |
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KenC Admin
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Gregger wrote: Ken, did you offer full price? MAybe someone came along shortly after and gave him full price. Hell I just strated to use paypal and it's as simple as sh#@!! Yes and no, he originally listed the watch for $165. He then reduced it to $145. I offered him $125 and he replied that he just lowered the price to $135 on the Sales Corner.... I then agreed to pay him his full asking price of $135 and asked him if he wanted paypal or some other form of payment. He replied by sending me his paypal payment....I paid him IMMEDIATELY and he rejected it some 10 to 12 hours later with some bogus crap not mentioned nor made part and pacel of the deal previously. Not sure, but I think he simply got a better offer and reneged on his commitment....there is no other real reason for him to cancel the sale. Bottom line, he lied........sorta reminiscent of Eyal and JS!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27th, 2006 12:57 pm |
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KenC Admin
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O.A. Gaspar wrote: Sorry to hear of this Ken!....especially happening to you! I'm beginning to believe that it was a different Randall than the one on SCTF........Mostly, people do not accept credit charges because they know that the charge can be reversed for cause. And even though I offered to send him a cashier's check, that would mean he would have to reveal his address. This leads me to believe that the guy is a scam artist who will not deliver what is paid for, leaving the purchaser with little to no recourse.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27th, 2006 07:43 pm |
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mcwright Admin 
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Under some circumstances, you can dispute any type of payment via Paypal. I had to do it once on a non-delivery issue. It got resolved shortly after my contacting paypal. Some people think they don't get a charge from Paypal if the person transfers funds via their bank account. T'aint so. Paypal charges you regardless.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27th, 2006 08:44 pm |
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IW 3T WIS 
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actually Sasha, I think that only holds if you have a premier or merchant or business acct. Personal accts don't get transaction fees if they come from a bank acct. (I think) mcwright wrote: Some people think they don't get a charge from Paypal if the person transfers funds via their bank account. T'aint so. Paypal charges you regardless.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27th, 2006 10:52 pm |
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mcwright Admin
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To the best of my knowledge, Paypal charges a fee for any type of transaction and no matter what type of account.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28th, 2006 07:17 am |
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IW 3T WIS
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go here: http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_display-fees-outside they explain it all.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28th, 2006 10:00 am |
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KenC Admin
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IW wrote: go here: http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_display-fees-outside they explain it all. If that were truly what the problem was, all he had to say was add 2% (or whatever) for paypal........................I sincerely believe he is a con-artist. Hey, maybe it's JS!
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28th, 2006 01:35 pm |
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mcwright Admin
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go here: http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_display-fees-outside they explain it all. Thanks for the heads up. That interesting thing is there is no mention of bankcards for payments.
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