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Paxman 3T WIS 
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I've been wanting a bracelet for my Ball Fireman and decided I would go to the source only to find the bracelet is $220 through Ball. I am a cheap bastard I guess becuase it seems ridiculous to me. I might have expected half that price. Prolem is, the Fireman is 21mm between lugs and I've been unable to find a bracelet of that size. Am I too cheap...should I just through down the cha-ching and be done with it? Or do any of y'all know were I could find a 21mm bracelet? thanks for reading, Pax |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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Paxman wrote: A 21mm Bracelet will be Tough to find imo....Did you buy the Fireman new?,,,I see there is only a $50. difference in price between the Strap and Bracelet model watch2.gifAlso try contacting Jeff Hess (see link) he is now the N.American Pres. of Ball Watches and an A.D. it's possible he may be able to help you out(check out his and wifes credentials..pretty impressive)hand6.gif I will ask TT next time I talk to him ...they are friends...but $220. isn't steep if you really want it Gumba!cat28.gif http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=hessfine I've been wanting a bracelet for my Ball Fireman and decided I would go to the source only to find the bracelet is $220 through Ball. I am a cheap bastard I guess becuase it seems ridiculous to me. I might have expected half that price. Prolem is, the Fireman is 21mm between lugs and I've been unable to find a bracelet of that size. |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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$220 seems steep to me when, as you point out, the price differential between strap and bracelet versions is more like $50. I did buy the Fireman new but on a strap as the blue indice model I decided on was not available on the bracelet. Pax |
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IW 3T WIS 
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That's how they get 'ya. Its buried in the price already. For instance, a Junkers 6296-2 goes for 270 on leather; on Titanium its 305. I sell the band itself for $75. It's like a chop shop; a car is worth more in pieces than together. Marc Paxman wrote: $220 seems steep to me when, as you point out, the price differential between strap and bracelet versions is more like $50. I did buy the Fireman new but on a strap as the blue indice model I decided on was not available on the bracelet. |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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Well, they haven't got me yet... I'm a thrifty bugger who will finda way to get what I want for less... I could always get one of the spring loaded bracelets that fits 18mm-22-mm. Now that was what they deemed "retail" cost though they did not make mention if another pricing sceem was available to me... say the cheap guys price... I don't need the bracelet I just put CJ's 20mm on from his Ball worldtimer and it really changed the look of the watch. Pax Last edited on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 04:49 pm by Paxman |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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IW wrote: You called that one Marc..as many a WIS have said in the past...always but the bracelet model for the extra amount cause' You can always find a Strap!:D That's how they get 'ya. Its buried in the price already. |
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canadajo 3T WIS 
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It did make the watch look completely different...which is the allure to having the stainless |
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Foster 3T WIS 
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Another brand noted for their cheap stamped clasps: Rolex. |
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yamahaki Guest
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He's not being cheap, just trying to get around 220.00 for a bracelet. The marathon bracelet is 160.00 from countycomm but can be had for 120.00 at other locations. Its one of the best out there. A Tag Heuer 6000 bracelet was 800.00 when the watch was still being made. I found that out the hard way. Pax, have you contacted preppyboy to see if he has one? |
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yamahaki Guest
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P.S. No flaming the Paxman. He is a true collectorhand6.gif |
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canadajo 3T WIS
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I concur....Pax is a real collector...He has peices of all movements and styles....He has boxes and boxes of watches with different ETA movements as well as the different Japanese movements...even some chinese...as well as some different quartz movements...He doesnt separate them by PRICE alone , although he has some very expensive peices... Pax does not believe that the price of a watch is the ONLY indicator of its true worth....He has many sport types but also has dress and some complications .....Pax has been known to look and find a Bargain ..... |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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yamahaki wrote: P.S. No flaming the Paxman. He is a true collectorhand6.gif Thanks buddy though I consider myself a watch lover rather than a collector. Pax |
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wcbartlett 3T WIS 
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Their is no short cut to quality. If you buy a cheap bracelet, it will cheapen the watch. |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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wcbartlett wrote: I own the Ball Alligator LE and of all the watches I have, the Ball bracelet is by far the best constructed. The clasp for example and since you stated that you are cheap, you must own a seiko and noted their cheap stamped clasp, on Ball you will not see that. All their clasph are manufactured like their links. WOW!! How insulting... When I refer to myself as a cheap bastard I consider that self deprecation. When established members give me sh*t I'll take it because we have an established relationship. As for you... I wondered if you were insecure or just a pompous ass when you blew your watch wad all over our board... I wondered even further when you felt compelled to spout the prices of your pieces. Even this morning your proclomation of the grail of dive watches rubbed me the wrong way... I'll decide what's a grail in my mind. Well, I wonder no more. You are clearly a prick and that means something coming from a stinking prick like me. Again...self deprecation!! You obviously are a true collector with the means to aquire many fine pieces. Good for you and I wish you well as you move through this world. Don't insult me again unless you develop a relationship with me... As far as I'm concerned it wouldn't be any loss for you to return to the other forums you seem to favor or have you worn out your welcome in those locations too?? Peace, Pax |
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yamahaki Guest
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Foster 3T WIS
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I have met Bill before and I must agree totally in your assessment of the man as a complete prick. You should have heard him crying like a bitch when I told him I didn't like his ridiculous Aquanautic Kind Cuda. Ignore him |
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e.avery 3T WIS 
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Pax listen to this, I was in the market for the Kobold SMG-1 and get the military discount like I have done in past years. Every thing was cool until I figured out that the discount did not come with the Ti bracelet ($1100) and they discounted a few hundred, so I canceled the order and Michael just had to understand. The $200 for a good bracelet is not that bad, but I wear NATO type straps on the ones that I do not want to spring for the bracelet. I think you can autoclave a nato, maybe. It would be cool to find out. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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We're all Cheap Bastards in one way or another :D Nothing wrong with looking for a Bargain...I know I Do! hand6.gif So now that we have established that...Let's Play Nice and set a Good Post Count for members before we can call another member a "Cheap Bastard" unless of course we are calling ourselves Cheap Bastards :P...I believe in a good exchange and hopefully feel No one has intentionally intended to insult another and rather that we all just "Feel at Home on 3T"...Carry On! cool10.gif...yours Truly a "Cheap Bastard" |
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wcbartlett 3T WIS
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First, I was agreeing with Paxman's assessment of himself. If I insulted Paxman or defamed his name with my reply, I apolgize. The Ball line of watches are excellent and at this point are coming into their own. Buying a Ball bracelet at this time would be an excellent investment and estically pleasant. In the long term should you decide to sell with the bracelet, you cannot lose, however, I have always considered my Ball a keeper and a key part of my collection. You may want to go to http://www.watchadoo.com they have good bracelets at good value. 've been wanting a bracelet for my Ball Fireman and decided I would go to the source only to find the bracelet is $220 through Ball. I am a cheap bastard I guess becuase it seems ridiculous to me. I might have expected half that price. Prolem is, the Fireman is 21mm between lugs and I've been unable to find a bracelet of that size. Am I too cheap...should I just through down the cha-ching and be done with it? Or do any of y'all know were I could find a 21mm bracelet? thanks for reading, Pax Paxman wrote: wcbartlett wrote:I own the Ball Alligator LE and of all the watches I have, the Ball bracelet is by far the best constructed. The clasp for example and since you stated that you are cheap, you must own a seiko and noted their cheap stamped clasp, on Ball you will not see that. All their clasph are manufactured like their links. |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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wcbartlett wrote:
Apology accepted and I thank you for that. Please understand you are in the wrong place if you are going conduct yourself like Thurston Howell III. Contrary to the opinion of this forum voiced on other boards, we are a smart bunch and I think we have collectors here with collections to die for... They just don't need to throw it in anyone's face... along with a price list... very sketchy. I would hope we can get beyond this but I would caution you to temper your proclomations with a little humility. Peace, Pax |
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wcbartlett 3T WIS
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Thank you for your heart felt acknowledement. |
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yamahaki Guest
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Sarcasm? Attachment: popcorn[1].gif (Downloaded 26 times) |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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yamahaki wrote: the best of friends have met over and exchange of differences and a bag of popcorn!....Six Packs on Me!  Now what about that Ball Bracelet!watch2.gif Sarcasm? |
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wcbartlett 3T WIS
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The only cost effective alternative that I can think about are bracelets that are sold on http://www.watchadoo.com. They have an link bracelet where the end links can be ground to fit the odd size lug, in this case 21mm. cost is usually under $100, Good luck. |
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wcbartlett 3T WIS
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One other site I just thought of is http://www.lonestarwatches.com. They also have a supply of mesh bracelets as well. |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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Now you just have to get the Ball bracelet, to much has been made of it, Mark. We are a very educated bunch, and our collections don't suck, even if I do say so my self.:D |
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wcbartlett 3T WIS
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Could you please "advise" where an individual said a collector sucked. I cannot seem to find the thread. e.avery wrote: Now you just have to get the Ball bracelet, to much has been made of it, Mark. We are a very educated bunch, and our collections don't suck, even if I do say so my self.:D |
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yamahaki Guest
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Hey Pax, whats your paypal id? I'll pony up a couple of bucks to fund the ball bracelet fundsmile8.gif if others do as well:lol |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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Gentlemen!! REST YOUR SPINCHTERS!! (What movie is that from? No fair answering CJ...) I do have a Watchadoo 22mm enroute which I was going to try on the Orsa. Perhaps I'll take Mr. Bartlett's advice and file that down. Lonestar didn't have anything to fit... I checked before posting. I just refuse to pay retail and would hope for a discount. None of us (I think) pay straight retail for anything... I will inquire with Ball and see if i can get a nominal discount. Mr. Yamahaki... thought art a kind hearted generous sould but I am not a charity case.... yet! If I wanted the bracelet badly enough I would have it. As I said before, I had to get the strap version in order to get the Fireman with blue indices but never realized it would have such a quirky lug size. And you might be right, Eric...at this point I just may have to have the bracelet... especially after all of this. All I was looking for was some advice and may be a nudge to a vendor with 21mm bracelets. I don't "present" my watches, I wears 'em. 3T FOREVER!! BROTHERS TILL THE END...whenever that may be. Pax |
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yamahaki Guest
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I know your not a charity case, just want to help a brotha out, Yo!:dude: |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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yamahaki wrote: I know your not a charity case, just want to help a brotha out, Yo!:dude: And that's the beauty of you, my man!! You rock, Sean!! You're still a post whore... Pax |
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wcbartlett 3T WIS
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I used a Dremel tool to file down the end link down. Last edited on Tue Nov 21st, 2006 09:12 pm by wcbartlett |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Okay...WTH are all the Moderators at??? WTH kind of Forum is this ??? Oh that's right there are no Mods!!...and No freakin' Rules either!...who's runnin' this looney Bin...Eh!...Where's Ken?? ... I'm gonna have a long talk with the owner!..... the Dumb A$$!! Carry on Now....WTF were we talkin' bout? |
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canadajo 3T WIS
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Back to Ball bracelet ....... I think that the Ball bracelet would be an okay investment though...I know it is one of your favorite watches and you get emotionaly attached to your watches ....sooooo I know you will keep this watch forever......if you opt on the ball bracelet it is almost like two entirely different watches.... and if you look far and wide enough you might find another idiot like myself who took his Ball bracelet off, and put on a dress rubber deployment....I would part with my Ball bracelet for 100 for sure .....damm...if it were only 21mm |
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KenC Admin 
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Pax..............a solid link 22mm would be easy to reduce.......this mesh from lonestar @ $119 is gorgeous or you may want to try a watchadoo @ about $50! http://www.lonestarwatches.com/3.2Mesh.htm |
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