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Has anyone besides Oscar received there Orsa Silver Surfer?  I received the mailing conformation on Monday the 27th of Nov. and still have not received mine yet.  I send things all over the would all the time and have never ever had an experience with a postal service like this, hell I thought UPS ground was slow but this takes the cake.  I would have liked to have seen it and had the time to decide it I want the lume dial one, but hell I get things shipped from about anywhere in Europe in 24 to 48 hours for around $40 +/- but I guess I am just lucky.

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I don't think you're alone, E.

Par for the course?

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Where is the watch being shipped from?  If it's Canada, I had a portable headphone amp take 10 days to get to me while I've had watches shipped from Hong Kong that got here in 3 days.

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e.avery wrote: Has anyone besides Oscar received there Orsa Silver Surfer?  I received the mailing conformation on Monday the 27th of Nov. and still have not received mine yet.  I send things all over the would all the time and have never ever had an experience with a postal service like this, hell I thought UPS ground was slow but this takes the cake.  I would have liked to have seen it and had the time to decide it I want the lume dial one, but hell I get things shipped from about anywhere in Europe in 24 to 48 hours for around $40 +/- but I guess I am just lucky.
I was wondering the same thing Eric. Mine still is not here day nine.:(

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Mail ran today and no sign of a Orsa watch in the box.

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Fellow WIS, as owner of Scorpion Watch Company, I'm very dissapointed in Orsa's customer service.  Our Reef Divers arrive in less than two weeks and we will be OVERNIGHTING our confirmed orders to customers in time for XMAS. We are doing that because we are about 3 weeks late in original promise dates. While there are always delays and bumps in the SWISS manufacturing road, It's (overnight shipping and follow thru) a cost of doing business and our problem, not the customers.

In support of our  fellow boutique watch company owners, I ordered a silver sea angler in I believe June with a September promise date. I got the email on Nov. 27 that mine was on the way. Still has not arrived.

Not impressed.

JP/Bathys has it down. Scorpion will be the same.

I already listed my orsa  for sale..as I was over the waiting.

Thanks

Brent

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http://www.scorpionwatch.com

 

 

 

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Well put... why the change in user name?

When are you making the watch with the 3T green (my original vote)?

Keep it real and you guys are going to do great. I scoffed initially but I'll admit I was probably way off. Can't wait to see the Reef Divers start popping up.

all the best,

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No change in the user name. (both still exist SWC and The Watchlord) I have always been the watchlord, so I just logged in personally as my orsa was for me personally.  Thanks.

 

Our next series is orange and black.

 

Thanks.

Brent

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Hey I may like the orangehand6.gif.

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Another day and not Silver dial Orsa Watch.:X

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e.avery wrote: Another day and not Silver dial Orsa Watch.:X
OY!! I can't say I'm surprised... hope it turns up soon but if they connect you to 3T you may never see it!!

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That would be a mistake that they would live to regret.

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e.avery wrote:
From my final payment to reciving the Silver Angler took 2 weeks!  from Canada and only cost Orsa $12. using Royal Mail but charged me $30!coyote2.gif Did you get the Sapphire Crystal Eric? That would be a mistake that they would live to regret.

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No I kind of played it safe with the mineral, and if I break it I can get another fit quick.  The price was a little high I though, and after the Candino I started to wonder.

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e.avery wrote: No I kind of played it safe with the mineral, and if I break it I can get another fit quick.  The price was a little high I though, and after the Candino I started to wonder.
What was the deal on the Candino?

If you don't mind my asking...

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e.avery wrote: Another day and not Silver dial Orsa Watch.:X
Ditto:X

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Paxman wrote:
e.avery wrote: No I kind of played it safe with the mineral, and if I break it I can get another fit quick.  The price was a little high I though, and after the Candino I started to wonder.
What was the deal on the Candino?

If you don't mind my asking...



Mark the Candino which is a great watch company and I would recommend them.  They do work for other brands and will do limited production pieces, custom, and etc..  The watch was presented as being like new with some minor scuffs.  The bezel looks like it had been beat off of rocks or hit with a hammer that had a serrated face.  The bracelet was about 50% of the original finish left and that is being nice.  The bracelet was missing some friction collars for the pins, and my wrist is larger than his but I got it to work.  The watch that was shown in the pics was after it had been refinished, took 2 hours and that is using commercial buffers and 12 inch diamond grinding wheels.  It is still not up to my standards.  If I would have pulled a stunt like that I would have been kicked off the forum.  I learned than that James had very little experience or carring for watches.  In hind site I should have said something but I would have been the lone ranger and I have been there and done that.  I can pick almost all production pieces apart, most people do not look at a watch with such a critical eye.  It tends to be an emotional experience and you can not reason with emotion.

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Holy fluck!!! That scumbag sent you a beat to scheis piece!! What a turd. Did you let him the conditionof the watch was not as he represented. I can understand why you held back from dumping on him while the project was underway, but you must have been displeased with the deal. Furhter proof that JS Henderson is a complete douchebag...

I have to say your efforts had great results. Looking at the watch you posted I would never have believed it had been so abused. You obviously performed a labor of love and you have my utmost respect for that reseurection.

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Has anyone received their Silver Sea Anglers Yet???/ Tony you should have had one by now mistake.gif Martin of Orsa still refuses to pay me my paypal fees from the All Lume Dial I cancelledcoyote2.gif...I hope these guys at Orsa aren't selling what they don't have!!!

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I have not, but Tony is farther north so you would think that ground would have reached him first.  If I was running a scam I would send out a few and make sure they would not pass customs, and get them sent back in order to buy time.  Mark them as drugs and get them confiscated and go through that ordeal.  Something that would confuse the situation and put the liability on someone else.  Before someone says something smart, you do not start working intelligence at 18 by not being great at deception.  No matter how you spin it you are constantly breaking the law, or else you suck.

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Day 14 and still no watch:X May need to take a road trip to Canada:X

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Tony Duronio wrote: Day 14 and still no watch:X May need to take a road trip to Canada:X
 

If you are going hunting.........take a gun!!!!smile8.gif

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Mine just arrived today. 12 days in route-total.

 

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So what is your take on the fit and finish?

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The Silver Sea Angler is well done overall. I owned the orange asian version so I can see some finishing improvements with this Swiss Made version. The only thing that seems to be lacking is the lume. Definitely not Swiss Tritec. Probably asian lume and very light on the application. 

 

 

 

 

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The Watchlord wrote: The Silver Sea Angler is well done overall. I owned the orange asian version so I can see some finishing improvements with this Swiss Made version. The only thing that seems to be lacking is the lume. Definitely not Swiss Tritec. Probably asian lume and very light on the application. 

Are you still gonna flip it? I'm not surprised, but I am disappointed that Orsa would cut corners on the lume. They need to get it together... or may be just fade away...

Enjoy it if you keep it and if you don't enjoy it... flip it!!

Pax

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Thanks for the response.  I was kicking the idea around of picking one up but I have some reservations due to recent events.

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Any news of the Silver Sea Anglers on the Horizon Tony...Eric????

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O.A. Gaspar wrote: Any news of the Silver Sea Anglers on the Horizon Tony...Eric????


Postman has not come yet today, so......

we will see:(

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Tony Duronio wrote: O.A. Gaspar wrote: Any news of the Silver Sea Anglers on the Horizon Tony...Eric????


Postman has not come yet today, so......

we will see:(
And with Canada Post you can't track Crap:D....once it arrives you will be Happy...but when you see your $30. shipping charge is only $12. on the box it rides in on...Well...take it from there Gumba!:P

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If this doesn't frost my>>>>>>>>>>>>

 took advantage of the lowered price and picked up one of the silver dial Orsa Sea Anglers. I admit that yes, communication with Martin Berg is spotty at best, but they shipped out my watch on Monday (the 4th) and I received it on Friday (the 8th), so thats pretty fast to me. The watch itself is a chunky piece of steel, and so far over three days it has kept perfect time (not even 1s off) - possibly the most accurate ETA 2824 I own.

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Sounds par for the course.  So he has been reading our posts, thought he would.

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If this doesn't frost my>>>>>>>>>>>>

 took advantage of the lowered price and picked up one of the silver dial Orsa Sea Anglers. I admit that yes, communication with Martin Berg is spotty at best, but they shipped out my watch on Monday (the 4th) and I received it on Friday (the 8th), so thats pretty fast to me. The watch itself is a chunky piece of steel, and so far over three days it has kept perfect time (not even 1s off) - possibly the most accurate ETA 2824 I own.

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e.avery wrote: Sounds par for the cuorse.  So he has been reading our posts, thought he would.

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If this doesn't frost my>>>>>>>>>>>>

 took advantage of the lowered price and picked up one of the silver dial Orsa Sea Anglers. I admit that yes, communication with Martin Berg is spotty at best, but they shipped out my watch on Monday (the 4th) and I received it on Friday (the 8th), so thats pretty fast to me. The watch itself is a chunky piece of steel, and so far over three days it has kept perfect time (not even 1s off) - possibly the most accurate ETA 2824 I own.


This was a post from WUS dive forum.

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Tony Duronio wrote:
T...I thought you said you were waiting 14 days already..or is that someone else?...I have said from day 1 that the Sea Angler is a sweet Timepiece!hand6.gif...if only those who run the Company knew what they were doing as far as CS .. shipping...meeting and keeping deadlines...and doing business above board we would all have a Sweet 3T/Orsa right now!:P If this doesn't frost my>>>>>>>>>>>>

 took advantage of the lowered price and picked up one of the silver dial Orsa Sea Anglers. I admit that yes, communication with Martin Berg is spotty at best, but they shipped out my watch on Monday (the 4th) and I received it on Friday (the 8th), so thats pretty fast to me. The watch itself is a chunky piece of steel, and so far over three days it has kept perfect time (not even 1s off) - possibly the most accurate ETA 2824 I own.

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I am mine shipped 11/27 and still no watch:X

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T...I thought you said you were waiting 14 days already..or is that someone else?...I have said from day 1 that the Sea Angler is a sweet Timepiece!hand6.gif...if only those who run the Company knew what they were doing as far as CS .. shipping...meeting and keeping deadlines...and doing business above board we would all have a Sweet 3T/Orsa right now!:P If this doesn't frost my>>>>>>>>>>>>

 took advantage of the lowered price and picked up one of the silver dial Orsa Sea Anglers. I admit that yes, communication with Martin Berg is spotty at best, but they shipped out my watch on Monday (the 4th) and I received it on Friday (the 8th), so thats pretty fast to me. The watch itself is a chunky piece of steel, and so far over three days it has kept perfect time (not even 1s off) - possibly the most accurate ETA 2824 I own.


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Tony Duronio wrote: e.avery wrote: Sounds par for the cuorse.  So he has been reading our posts, thought he would.

Tony Duronio wrote:
If this doesn't frost my>>>>>>>>>>>>

 took advantage of the lowered price and picked up one of the silver dial Orsa Sea Anglers. I admit that yes, communication with Martin Berg is spotty at best, but they shipped out my watch on Monday (the 4th) and I received it on Friday (the 8th), so thats pretty fast to me. The watch itself is a chunky piece of steel, and so far over three days it has kept perfect time (not even 1s off) - possibly the most accurate ETA 2824 I own.


This was a post from WUS dive forum.

I do realize the origin of the post, but do not doubt that O let loose on them about the delay and others have complained in the beginning, given the typical shipping experiences.

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Well..................#47 of 50 has landed. Eric I hope you get yours today also.

Beautiful watch and a suprise for me....black date wheel with white. I love that lookhand6.gif Did not know it was used on this one.

Fit and finish appears to be very good.

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Huzzah!! Congrats to Tony!!

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Tony Duronio wrote:
Congrats Tony!....Glad to hear it finally made it Gumba!!hand6.gif Well..................#47 of 50 has landed. Eric I hope you get yours today also.

Beautiful watch and a suprise for me....black date wheel with white. I love that lookhand6.gif Did not know it was used on this one.

Fit and finish appears to be very good.

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This is so funny it is comical, what a presentation.  Good thing I was at home what are the odds.  Better yet the SWISS MADE and number is printed on the back, this is some funny shit.





 

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Now that's how to package a Watch!!face4.gif .............................At least it arrived Buddy!....Congrats!and you got a real warranty card...all I got was a scanned piece of paper! This is so funny it is comical, what a presentation.  Good thing I was at home what are the odds.  Better yet the SWISS MADE and number is printed on the back, this is some funny S**t.





 

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O.A. Gaspar wrote: e.avery wrote:
Now that's how to package a Watch!!face4.gif .............................At least it arrived Buddy!....Congrats!and you got a real warranty card...all I got was a scanned piece of paper! This is so funny it is comical, what a presentation.  Good thing I was at home what are the odds.  Better yet the SWISS MADE and number is printed on the back, this is some funny S**t.





 


I got a strap also, but these boys could not even spring for cheep laser etching.  I was not counting on real engraving, but this is funny.  Why not take a cheap vibrating hand engraver to mark the #, some of the people I look up to in the business do that.  Each watch maker numbers the pieces by hand.

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Sweet ziplock... suitable for blueberries no doubt!! Is the # actually engraved on the back?

I'm glad you finally received the watch, though.

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I have a better one than that the watch is defective, joy to the world.

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e.avery wrote: I have a better one than that the watch is defective, joy to the world.
You have got to be kidding!! No bloody way!!

Well, now you can shove it right up Berg's piehole!!

Sorry for the trouble, E...

Pax

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Please tell me these people got drunk one night and got the wonderful idea to start a watch company, right.  No Pax the # is printed with ink no S**t.  Metal on the watch back will wear away if you have it long enough, so "I got a great idea" lets print if on the back because that ink will stay there as long as "Invicta's IP plating".  Look on the bright side my Orients get a break, because I have a new beater.

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Consulting - If you are not part of the solution, then we can make lots of money prolonging the problem.

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I've got to see a pic of the #...

Unbelievable!! These guys are just jokers...

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I've been pretty quit on this subject about ORSA, because I believe everyone deserves to mess up a bit. But this is it!!! How can these guys call themselves a company? I ship better then that when I sell somthing from e-bay. What the He11 are they thinking, Im sorry but I have no good intentions for these guys. I'm glad things went down the way they did last tuesday!! Otherwise there would be a whole lot of other people that they suckered. Im sorry for you pax. :( That has to be one of the worst presentations I've seen for a watch! Where do they come  from with thier prices? I wouldn't give a wooden nickle for any ORSA now!! I'm sorry for the one's who own them. I hope they go right down the tubes! I just don't want to see any one of them try to get into somthing else that would hurt people after thier buss. crashes.

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Paxman wrote:
Here you go Pax #12/50 :P....that was another last minute issue with the 3T/Orsa....James wanted to have it painted in 3T green on the caseback as he said the beadblast case could not be engraved and they messed a couple up trying I've got to see a pic of the #...

Unbelievable!! These guys are just jokers...

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O.A. Gaspar wrote: Paxman wrote:
Here you go Pax #12/50 :P....that was another last minute issue with the 3T/Orsa....James wanted to have it painted in 3T green on the caseback as he said the beadblast case could not be engraved and they messed a couple up trying I've got to see a pic of the #...

Unbelievable!! These guys are just jokers...

Pax




How is this for a suggestion...............engrave or stamp the case back before you bead blast it.................of course, it to the mind of a great genius to figure that out...so I shouldn't be so hard on them.

I was considering buying the Silver Anglar until e said that his arrived defective!

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Personally Ken laser etching it does not matter and if the engraver is commercial duty then the engraving bit should not break.  I am making an assumption on the problem, but what did they do buy it off of TV.  I can see it now get rich by engraving in the mall.  Laser etching is cheep and engraving is the most expensive because of the bits.  Both require labor in setting up the file, but they are not that hard to create if you are experienced.  I have a set of dies that you stamp with that you hit with a hammer, but that would take the skill of how to swing a hammer, and that my be above the people in question.  My watch there is a fit problem with the movement, crown length, and case, the assembler messed up or the watchmaker.

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KenC wrote: O.A. Gaspar wrote: Paxman wrote:
Here you go Pax #12/50 :P....that was another last minute issue with the 3T/Orsa....James wanted to have it painted in 3T green on the caseback as he said the beadblast case could not be engraved and they messed a couple up trying I've got to see a pic of the #...

Unbelievable!! These guys are just jokers...

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How is this for a suggestion...............engrave or stamp the case back before you bead blast it.................of course, it to the mind of a great genius to figure that out...so I shouldn't be so hard on them.

I was considering buying the Silver Anglar until e said that his arrived defective!

Thanks for the pic, O. impressive... SHEESH!!

The reason they can't stamp/engrave them before finishing is that they haven't bought them until some sucker of suckers plops down the capital they lack but need to be a watch company and buy their components.

Someone should just buy them and/or shut them down...

E, what's the defect? Sounds like you're not returning it as you said your Orients will get a beater break. I would send that crap back!! You don't need a defective Orsa...

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e.avery wrote: Personally Ken laser etching it does not matter and if the engraver is commercial duty then the engraving bit should not break.  I am making an assumption on the problem, but what did they do buy it off of TV.  I can see it now get rich by engraving in the mall.  Laser etching is cheep and engraving is the most expensive because of the bits.  Both require labor in setting up the file, but they are not that hard to create if you are experienced.  I have a set of dies that you stamp with that you hit with a hammer, but that would take the skill of how to swing a hammer, and that my be above the people in question.  My watch there is a fit problem with the movement, crown length, and case, the assembler messed up or the watchmaker.
To Eric I say I am sorry for his trouble and to the Orsa I say BLECH!!

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Even with all the BS and obvious lack of any CS/CR/or QC by the looks of the packaging and lack of packing skills for someone like Martin who is supposed to be a WIS ....I still like my Anglers hand6.gif I just hope nothing goes wrong with my 4 Anglers as I don't think my Warranty will be honored nowcoyote2.gif 

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O.A. Gaspar wrote: Even with all the BS and obvious lack of any CS/CR/or QC by the looks of the packaging and lack of packing skills for someone like Martin who is supposed to be a WIS ....I still like my Anglers hand6.gif I just hope nothing goes wrong with my 4 Anglers as I don't think my Warranty will be honored nowcoyote2.gif 

That's what made me shy away from the Silver.  I do like the styling but I am afraid if I sent a payment, I'd never get the watch!

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After getting over the urge to beat the watch into 300 pieces and figuring the best way to post the carnage, personally from my experience I do not believe that they pressure test them to 300M.  Something just does not smell right about the piece.

 

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e.avery wrote:
The Silver Angler is assembled by Cattin CIE in Switzerland and they have a good Rep but Hey...what goes on in Switzerland....Stays in Switzerland..:D I would believe my 3t/Orsa is tested as it came from Kent Parks and he has a Water Testerhand6.gif After getting over the urge to beat the watch into 300 pieces and figuring the best way to post the carnage, personally from my experience I do not believe that they pressure test them to 300M.  Something just does not smell right about the piece.

 

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What watch is trapped and drowning in there?  I like the hands.

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I am not one of those professionals or any thing, but I do believe that that water tester is only rated at 3 atm.

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I got mine today. #48/50, I'm not sure if I can live with how big this watch really is though. Other than that hand6.gif

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aawil wrote:
Welcome to 3T aawil!!!cool10.gifGlad to see you posting and hope to have you share some of your collection and WISdom with us!watch2.gifhand6.gif I got mine today. #48/50, I'm not sure if I can live with how big this watch really is though. Other than that hand6.gif


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