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TimeTechTalk.com > Time Tech Talk > Time Talk > Slop was selling COSC Invictas without the paperwork. LOL |
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MikeD 3T WIS 
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I was watching El Gordo on Slop last night when to my amazement they had the temerity to sell COSC certified watches without the COSC certification. lol Of course the prices were reduced but how can they lose the COSC paperwork, and what's the point of calling it COSC if there's no paperwork to support it? Yeah, I know it's just a piece of paper but it's funny to me that they lost them or something. Maybe they are returns? I don't know, it's just funny/fishy to me. |
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EricAldovino Guest
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It's funny to watch El Corona Gorda...Someone needs to tell him he is not Jay Leno. He is a salesman who happens to be in front of a greasy camera. It's fun to watch him play talk show host??! smile8.gif "Welcome to the show...." "now. tonight we have a very special guest!" I am always so let down. I am expecting Stallone, or Deniro...maybe Demi Moore...face4.gif Last edited on Tue Jan 9th, 2007 05:23 pm by |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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Even better is the guest's unintelligible BS. He makes some fantastically nonsensical claims... I must admit I looked at it for a moment during last night's debacle. Say what you will, it is entertaining... humourously entertaining. I wish I could say the same for the SAH offering. Without the Watch Commander I find the shows a bit too dry. To many the WC is irritating but he does have energy. I really find Gabriel from Oceanaut to have a laconic manner of speaking which is coma inducing. JMHO. Back on topic. A COSC certified watch without certification? OY!! I caught the ruby and sapphire encrusted monstrosity. I'm no arbitar of taste, but who wants that... or a blue Russian Diver... or a blue Prowler. Is it just me or are these offerings over the top? I guess I'm just not the type of SERIOUS collector they are targeting... |
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KenC Admin 
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Paxman wrote: I must admit I looked at it for a moment during last night's debacle. Say what you will, it is entertaining... humourously entertaining. As was the game!!!!!!!!!!smile8.gif But seriously folks, he has his uneducated following to which his non-sensical statements make sense!  |
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Gregger 3T WIS 
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Ken, You should have purchased the blue RD and waited for the orange RD for Fla colors...... |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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Seriously....does anyone still watch Slop...isn't it all Invicta now?face4.gif Rumor has it that Lior and maybe even the Merm are jumping ship to TT/SAH....especially after Lior got dissed by one of the owners and then piled on by it's members of another forum supposed to be the home base for Slop! |
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MikeD 3T WIS
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I thought you had to have the paperwork in order to claim COSC but apparently not. That's why I thought it was odd. I read somewhere that Invicta is the only one that actually includes the certificate with COSC certified watches. They also engrave the number on the movement so I guess it doesn't matter if you have the piece of paper or not. |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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MikeD wrote: I thought you had to have the paperwork in order to claim COSC but apparently not. That's why I thought it was odd. I read somewhere that Invicta is the only one that actually includes the certificate with COSC certified watches. They also engrave the number on the movement so I guess it doesn't matter if you have the piece of paper or not. I got the certificate with my Doxa COSC but it is my only chronometer so that's all I know. I do think different brands include differnt types of paperwork and certification. I guess Invicta is clearly not the only brand to include paperwork since they seem to be selling these without a cert. May be some of the other members with chronometers can elaborate on their paperwork? Last edited on Wed Jan 10th, 2007 06:58 pm by Paxman |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Paxman wrote: Not all brands come with the actual certificate from COSC but it can be obtained from Manufacturer/COSC for a very small fee ...All COSC/Chronomtre Watches are stamped with an individual # to identify them to the testing and results for that particular Timepiece....watch2.gif MikeD wrote: I thought you had to have the paperwork in order to claim COSC but apparently not. That's why I thought it was odd. I read somewhere that Invicta is the only one that actually includes the certificate with COSC certified watches. They also engrave the number on the movement so I guess it doesn't matter if you have the piece of paper or not. I got the certificate with my Doxa COSC but it is my only chronometer so that's all I know. I do think different brands include differnt types of paperwork and certification. I guess Invicta is clearly not the only brand to include paperwork since they seem to be selling these without a cert. May be some of the other members with chronometers can elaborate on their paperwork? |
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OldeCrow 3T WIS 
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Without the certificate it is just a serialized movement with no warranty that it actually passed COSC tests and for that matter no warranty that it was even submitted. All you get out of that deal is the knowledge that at least one of the bridges on the movement was serialized for COSC testing nothing more. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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OldeCrow wrote: 1st I'm hearing of this as I have sent in for COSC papers for all of my Ventura Chronometres and received them with the 5 position scores and a passing stamp matching the # stamped on the Bridge....My pre-owned Rolex didn't come with COSC paperwork but the AD got it for me...I have never heard of COSC only testing Bridges/Ebauches(unless you are calling the entire movement a Bridge) but the entire assembled movement...not including the Watch itself as the Watch is assembled after the movement is passed by COSC....and anything can happen after that...especially with an Invicta!!!:D  See FAQ from COSC about issuing of paperwork....http://www.cosc.ch/faq.php?lang=en Without the certificate it is just a serialized movement with no warranty that it actually passed COSC tests and for that matter no warranty that it was even submitted. All you get out of that deal is the knowledge that at least one of the bridges on the movement was serialized for COSC testing nothing more. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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More intersting facts about COSC as reported on TZ...scroll down to Part III about Chronometershand6.gif http://www.timezone.com/library/wwatchfaq/wwatchfaq631668591017665598 |
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OldeCrow 3T WIS
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Just to be clear we're not in disagreement you just have more faith than I have. Also to be clear COSC tests completed movements not assembled watches. I believe movements are serialized before they are tested so even if they fail they still have the serial number which means without the paperwork in hand you could have a serialized movement that actually failed COSC tests!? I would trust that a Rolex actually passed COSC and many other brands that have large numbers of movements tested but I would be suspecious of a movement from Invicta that they openly hail as not having papers! |
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canadajo 3T WIS 
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I saw that and I laughed my ass off .... I told my salesman today to sell a Hyundai that I have as a Honda without the certification .... He looked at me like I was nuts |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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OldeCrow wrote: I agree Chris and know COSC only tests movements and not completed Watches as I posted...but it would be Illegal to place a failed COSC movement in a Watch and call it COSC...but then again it's Invicta I picked up a COSC Invicta Admiral...paperwork and all(issuing the COSC documemnt is solely upon the manufacturer to issue to purchaser and not COSC)..but am having a winding stem problem and haven't even worn the Bohemuth for more than a Pic!!!...apparently the SW200 is having this problem (winding stem not properly seated)....the crown stem does not always release or engage position to set the date time or wind without some playing with...go figure...should have known better but I had a Huge credit due me by Slop!...so with COSC movement and all it is still an assembled by Insticya!!!coyote2.gif Just to be clear we're not in disagreement you just have more faith than I have. |
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OldeCrow 3T WIS
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hehe I really was playing a bit of the devils advocate. It did seem odd that they would stress that they had no COSC papers on the watches though. Some of those sw2000's seem to have had some stem problems, Gary sent me his Tungsten Tide when it arrived with problems that eventually led to the stem pulling all the way out. :? |
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KenC Admin
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OldeCrow wrote: hehe I really was playing a bit of the devils advocate. It did seem odd that they would stress that they had no COSC papers on the watches though. It's not strange...........it's typical....................the Dynamic Duo of JS & EL, for the most part, have no idea what the are saying, much less what they are talking about! They are both idiots with an idiotic following! |
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