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yamahaki Guest
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Last edited on Tue Apr 17th, 2007 04:25 pm by |
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Foster 3T WIS 
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Ok, this isn't really in keeping with this thread's purpose, but I keep seeing people mention that Enzo's can be had for less than $1000. I have only seen them for sale on his site and it looks like he is asking $1275 or thereabouts for them. Where do I go to grab one at the lower price?? |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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Foster wrote: Just drop Enzo an e-mail and tell him you saw it mentioned here...he is a member and his e-mail addres is in his member profile (enzo)hand6.gif I believe the discounts are for pre-orders but it doesn't hurt to ask..I know I will...been wanting an Enzo for awhile nowcool10.gif Ok, this isn't really in keeping with this thread's purpose, but I keep seeing people mention that Enzo's can be had for less than $1000. |
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Foster 3T WIS
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Thanks, O...you always deliver.hand6.gif |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Foster wrote: Maybe we could get a group buy going!hand6.gif Thanks, O...you always deliver.hand6.gif |
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lordsinclair 3T WIS
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It must be obvious to everyone that the watch boards are awash with cliques. There are a few guys "in the know" on every forum, who band together whenever the going gets tough. It's what the whole Doxa farrago is all about. In this instance, Enzo asks for input, Malyel gives it. Enzo answers, Malyel has further questions. Rightly or wrongly he posts rather than PM's. The clique is up in arms. The rest of us have have no dog in the fight. I posted a positive comment about the 2000MGMT and I stand by it. If I could buy one it wouldn't bother me where it is made, but if Malyel is bothered by the "Swiss Made" thing, then let him have his say. Folks got on your case in the Ocean 7 forum if I recall. So, cut the guy the slack you felt was denied to you. Peace. |
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yamahaki Guest
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lordsinclair 3T WIS
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yamahaki wrote: this post is well within watch talk. A watch was attacked! As I said, I have no dog in this. But I think Enzo will survive. And I may well shoot him an email.hand6.gif Sorry. I replied to the wrong thread. I guess I am not used to the 3T way of doing things yet.:( Edited for clarification. Last edited on Fri Apr 13th, 2007 09:08 pm by lordsinclair |
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yamahaki Guest
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Last edited on Tue Apr 17th, 2007 04:26 pm by |
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lordsinclair 3T WIS
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yamahaki wrote: lordsinclair wrote:It must be obvious to everyone that the watch boards are awash with cliques. There are a few guys "in the know" on every forum, who band together whenever the going gets tough. It's what the whole Doxa farrago is all about. In this instance, Enzo asks for input, Malyel gives it. Enzo answers, Malyel has further questions. Rightly or wrongly he posts rather than PM's. The clique is up in arms. The rest of us have have no dog in the fight. My point is simply that freedom of speech cannot be applied selectively. Anyway, didn't you end up apologizing on the Ocean 7 forum? Not normally the actions of an innocent party. Maybe Malyel will surprise you and do the same. Personally, I don't care. I don't come to the these boards to spar. I just like watches.:) |
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Cannon Guest
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yamahaki wrote:lordsinclair wrote:It must be obvious to everyone that the watch boards are awash with cliques. There are a few guys "in the know" on every forum, who band together whenever the going gets tough. It's what the whole Doxa farrago is all about. In this instance, Enzo asks for input, Malyel gives it. Enzo answers, Malyel has further questions. Rightly or wrongly he posts rather than PM's. The clique is up in arms. The rest of us have have no dog in the fight. Actually Sean your memory of the facts is incorrect. After you posted your question claiming you had not read any unbiased reviews and that you felt that people were afraid to post there honest opinion. I responded to your question and I don't believe I attacked you. Quote: Originally Posted by yamahaki How about the guys here who know how to time the watch against a known accurate quartz do it, and post the results? I timed my LM-1 against a C.O.S.C. Quartz Chronometer (Sinn UX) and it was dead on with the Sinn and Time.gov after 36 hours. http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=42503 Why do you insist on playing a martyr? Here is the link to the thread http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=45701 and my response was # 12. Mitch posted #13 and also did not attack you. It wasn't until post #14 where Brad attacked you. Why are you trying to rewrite the facts? Also in another thread here you admit to trying to get banned on the Ocean7 forum and even then you were not. Lets get your facts straight please. yamahaki wrote: Wow! what did you post up? I did my best to get banned on the ocean7 forum, Had 4 letter words with mods, and didn't get the boot. So confess man! I need some ideas:D I am not sure why you feel that by asking how a watch that is admittedly assembled outside of Switzerland can be called Swiss Made. In the thread you will see numerous times I say that Enzo watches get great reviews and are loved by owners. Hardly a personal attack. Last edited on Fri Apr 13th, 2007 09:32 pm by |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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lordsinclair wrote: So what you are saying is only guilty people apologize?..an apology can be ones defense on a position they may have taken and not one of admission to any guilt or wrong doing....:) yamahaki wrote:lordsinclair wrote:It must be obvious to everyone that the watch boards are awash with cliques. There are a few guys "in the know" on every forum, who band together whenever the going gets tough. It's what the whole Doxa farrago is all about. In this instance, Enzo asks for input, Malyel gives it. Enzo answers, Malyel has further questions. Rightly or wrongly he posts rather than PM's. The clique is up in arms. The rest of us have have no dog in the fight. |
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lordsinclair 3T WIS
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O.A. Gaspar wrote: lordsinclair wrote: Okay. I'll play. I find it hardly likely that someone would apologize for doing something right, don't you? As to how an apology can be construed as a "defense on a position..." well, you've got me there. Semantics were never my strong suit. Oh, well. Looks like I've learned to keep my mouth shut...or stay on WUS. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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lordsinclair wrote: What's the name of the game? I simply gave another viewpoint as to why someone may apologize...there are many definitions in the dictionary none of which say it is an admission of guilt that I know of ?...maybe Sean wanted to fit in with the clique and therefore apologized...why would that make you come up with the assumption that either you shut up or stay at WUS? If you are here only to stir the pot than maybe you should stay at WUS:)  O.A. Gaspar wrote: lordsinclair wrote: Okay. I'll play. I find it hardly likely that someone would apologize for doing something right, don't you? As to how an apology can be construed as a "defense on a position..." well, you've got me there. Semantics were never my strong suit. Oh, well. Looks like I've learned to keep my mouth shut...or stay on WUS. |
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lordsinclair 3T WIS
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O.A. Gaspar wrote: lordsinclair wrote: I came here at the recommendation of a friend, and to provide a balance from some of the more emotional/irrational aspects of debate on a large board like WUS. To my detriment, I allowed myself to get riled by this thread. It's the same old crap about being right. Not talking about anything of merit, but being right. I have made more mistakes in my life than I care to mention. I gave up expecting to be right a long time ago. But come on, a post beating up on a guy, calling him a "fart sniffer," and linking to some argument elswehere, has zero merit whatsoever. It's just troublemaking - or stirring the pot as you might say. I should have left well alone, but I guess that is all water under the bridge now. I just get a bit fed up of this stuff. No disrespect to 3T, you, or yamahaki was intended. Last edited on Fri Apr 13th, 2007 10:49 pm by lordsinclair |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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lordsinclair wrote: I understand you completely just like we all understand Sean (yamahaki..somewhat rough exterior with a kind heart sort of WIS)) here and understand him to be a good guy and knowledgeable WIShand6.gif We also know who he was referring to and as you can see he was even given an open forum to say his peace....no harm no foul :) Perhaps once you are here for awhile you will understand as well....I think you have made some great posts and are a nice addition to the membership here!...and someday I am sure I will come to your defense as well....that's what cliques do:DSorry ...see that was easy and I wasn't guilty of a thing...I think:P O.A. Gaspar wrote:lordsinclair wrote: |
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lordsinclair 3T WIS
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O.A. Gaspar wrote: lordsinclair wrote: Thanks, O.A. It's been a bad day/week/month/start to '07. I'm a little tired...but I do have a sense of humor. I can take the knocks...and dish a few out every once in a while. And I do like it here on 3T.:) |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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lordsinclair wrote: LS ..I couldn't agree with you more about having a rough week with all the negativity that has been abound as of late!!coyote2.gif a good sense humor is what we all need or a great Timepiece that is humorous or at least unusual like this Vacheron Constantin!!!  O.A. Gaspar wrote:lordsinclair wrote: Attachment: Vacheron Constantin compass watch.jpg (Downloaded 65 times) |
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lordsinclair 3T WIS
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O.A. Gaspar wrote: lordsinclair wrote: Or perhaps this curious thing, announced today in Basel. Made from steel "obtained" from the wreck of the Titanic, with a dial of black lacquer paint containing coal dust from the same source. All sounds very dubious to me. Oh, and a price range of $7,800 to $173,100. Yikes!  Last edited on Fri Apr 13th, 2007 11:20 pm by lordsinclair |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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I will take the opportunity to say: GENTLEMEN REST YOUR SPINCTERS!! We all know Sean's M.O. and know he's a good shit!! He is the fart to the sniffer. A bit vulgar and coarse, of course... Nice to have new blood and fresh discourse. |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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lordsinclair wrote: O.A. Gaspar wrote:lordsinclair wrote: I saw that and thought it to be morbid... Why? If that steel was so great it wouldn't be at the bottom of the Atlantic!! |
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lordsinclair 3T WIS
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Paxman wrote:
Haha! I like that. And I agree. Rob a grave and make a watch. Morbid indeed. Plus, it looks like something that would be given away free with a DVD of that dreadful movie of the same name. I remember seeing it in London. It was so awful the crowd were cheering for the iceberg to strike before the ship left port. No such luck. Only another three hours to go...:D |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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lordsinclair wrote: Paxman wrote: Now you have gone too far, LS!! How dare you attack such a wonderful flm!! I have just finished re-watching it for the 47th time and weeping in the dark...face4.gif Perhaps the print adverts should feature the extras from the post-sinking portion of the film... The watch might actually look better on the "frozen" extras. No offense to any Titanic victims or their families should they be reading... |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Paxman wrote: Awww Man....the scene where Leonardo starts sinking to the bottom of the ocean with his arm outstretched and on his wrist this Titantic watch...what a trailer that would be coyote2.gif jk lordsinclair wrote:Paxman wrote: |
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yamahaki Guest
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Just got up. Damn those naps come out of nowhere! I will clear up 2 things here. I apologized on the ocean7 forum to put it to rest. no other reason. I had talked to xtrooper who told me not to do it but just keep posting. But thats all. I seem to remember alot of ass kissing when members wanted back on wus after getting banned. Not my way of doing things. I collect watches, and race motorcycles. I don't hide behind a user name. I posted my name, address and phone number to everyone if they had a personal problem with me call me. 2. The attack on Enzo is uncalled for. I stated so. I don't back down when I see a goodhearted man having his honor called out. Thats plain chickensh#t. |
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KenC Admin 
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I would like to make a couple of comments on this "Freedom of Speech" subject that keeps coming up on forums. 1) Freedom of speech is a government/citizen thing. Not a "forum" thing. Our (USA) Constitution guarantees that the GOVERNMENT will not take any action to abridge anyone's right to free speech. That has further been defined as speech that does not create a situation involving personal safety (as in the old cliché, "No one has a free speech right to yell FIRE in a crowded theater"). 2) Most forum are privately owned and the owner of that forum has the ultimate right to restrict whatever he wants. 3) Many forums are based in countries outside of the USA and our Constitution does not apply (much less its 1st Amendment). 4) Most importantly, with the "right" to free speech comes the responsibility to accept the consequences for what is said. People that don't like what you "freely" said have the right to respond, criticize, boycott (and for the Dixie Chicks, to not attend concerts or play/listen to their music). Don Imus had a right to say what he did...he also has to take the consequences of being fired for it). The only free speech protection one has is from retribution from the government. Now, if the government starts restricting what Don Imus can say...THAT is a violation of the right to free speech! So, please, not more FREE SPEECH speeches!!!:D....and please remember, that people have shed blood and died so that you can keep these rights!!! |
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lordsinclair 3T WIS
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KenC wrote: I would like to make a couple of comments on this "Freedom of Speech" subject that keeps coming up on forums. Ken, I would just like to take the opportunity to clarify my remarks about free speech, as I think your comments are mostly directed at the statment I made. When I said that freedom of speech cannot be applied selectively, I simply meant that one cannot reserve for oneself rights that one would then deny someone else. If "rights" is to dramatic a word, then the "benefit of the doubt" might be a better definition. |
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KenC Admin
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lordsinclair wrote: KenC wrote:I would like to make a couple of comments on this "Freedom of Speech" subject that keeps coming up on forums. LS, Sorry that I left that impression.....No, it was not specifically directed at your statement. It's just that I saw the expression "freedom of speech" for the umpteenth time (mostly on WUS) and I just went off on a rant aimed at no one in particular and, perhaps, everyone in general.......and you are "dead-on" in your comment that freedom of speech cannot (or should not) be selectively applied. That is really the crux of my ire....most (not all) those who cry "freedom of speech" are those who make a statement and do not like the consequences of it. 'nuff said, glad to see you at 3T!!! Ken |
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Pararescue 3T WIS 
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Since last weeks ambush on the "official" Doxa forum I tend to steer away from official watch forums. They are little more than sales tools where free and civil discussion are rejected in favor of only those posts benefical to selling that brand of watch. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Well said and points well taken  I think many of us including myself have lost our sense of what brought us to watch forums to begin with .... for me it was my passion for watches of all kinds and the hope to gain knowledge and share experiences with other WIS from all walks of life from around the World and enjoying lasting frienships as a result. I think it's Time to get back to what's positive about our Hobby instead of dwelling on the negative aspectshand6.gif |
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Pararescue 3T WIS
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O.A. Gaspar wrote: Well said and points well taken Very true indeed. Thank you for your perspective. |
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