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 Posted: Tue Aug 21st, 2007 11:17 pm
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Mark, sorry to hear of your troubles with the Marinemaster. I can tell you mine sized easily and ran like a champ out of the box. Personally I would watch it closely and think it might be best if serviced. something isn;t right if it didn't run after a good winding. Please keep us updated.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 22nd, 2007 10:08 am
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Update, as of 10:05am this morning, the watch has been running glitch-free since my intitial post yesterday at 3pm.  It is at +9sec after 19hrs. 

Assuming it doesn't glitch again, I will wear it for another day, then let it run down to check the reserve. 

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Sounding good. I'll cross my fingers for ya there. :cool: ;)

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 Posted: Wed Aug 22nd, 2007 11:38 am
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hmmmmm....it sounds strangly just like the situation I had with my Longines spirit ..... I tried winding it and it did exactly like you described, and it acted the same as your fortis  ....I got worried and read up on the movement to make sure I didnt do something wrong ...I then eventually just wore it and it ran okay after wearing it for a day ....it ran 10 seconds fast per 12 hours at first .....it settled down after a month or so ....now it runs 2-6 seconds fast per 24 hours .....it runs perfect now .... I was sure it was busted and I was going thru stuff to see where to send it .....I thought mabey it was stuck with lube ???? Hopefully yours will do the same ...it is a great watch ...It is possibly my favorite as I have the black version....good luck

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 Posted: Wed Aug 22nd, 2007 12:06 pm
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canadajo wrote: hmmmmm....it sounds strangly just like the situation I had with my Longines spirit ..... I tried winding it and it did exactly like you described, and it acted the same as your fortis  ....I got worried and read up on the movement to make sure I didnt do something wrong ...I then eventually just wore it and it ran okay after wearing it for a day ....it ran 10 seconds fast per 12 hours at first .....it settled down after a month or so ....now it runs 2-6 seconds fast per 24 hours .....it runs perfect now .... I was sure it was busted and I was going thru stuff to see where to send it .....I thought mabey it was stuck with lube ???? Hopefully yours will do the same ...it is a great watch ...It is possibly my favorite as I have the black version....good luck

Interesting... good to know my problem is not unique.  Still ticking away at +9 since yesterday... I'm feeling better about it.

Thanks!

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 Posted: Wed Aug 22nd, 2007 12:19 pm
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It usually only happens on watches that have been setting around a very long time and the oil pools.  My advice and my staff is that wear it and if it works fine enjoy, do not push the service interval window, and the best thing to do is check the power reserve.  If it is shorter than normal than the friction in the movement is to great and it needs a service as soon as possible if not sooner.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 22nd, 2007 12:22 pm
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e.avery wrote: It usually only happens on watches that have been setting around a very long time and the oil pools.  My advice and my staff is that wear it and if it works fine enjoy, do not push the service interval window, and the best thing to do is check the power reserve.  If it is shorter than normal than the friction in the movement is to great and it needs a service as soon as possible if not sooner.

That is great advice Eric, Thanks!  I'll do exactly that.

BTW, what business are you in?  Sounds like you have a staff of watchmakers?

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 Posted: Wed Aug 22nd, 2007 12:52 pm
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Yes, one of the companies that my family are involved in is a subcontractor for some of the companies in the watch industry.  Personally it is really not my thing, but understanding the direction that the business should take, does not require me to do much hands on watch work.

My personal experience is in design and business.

I right now am closely watching value of international currency.  I have this wild idea that to get the politicians in Iraq to work together we will have to start trading the Dinar on the exchanges.  It would get them off of the dollar and help improve the life of the average Iraqi by dealing with the devaluation and rampant inflation.  If I was going to make that happen I would consider doing it in the second quarter of next year.  Just a thought, more than likely in left field.

Sorry for the long answer, but you did ask.

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Very interesting and I also agree with getting Iraq off the US currency. To many countries use it now. As with anything the more of it there is the less it is worth.

Look at watches. Great example in most cases. :cool:

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Thanks for the explanation Eric, sounds very interesting and fascinating.  Anything that can bring the middle east closer to peace is a good thing.  Good luck with that.

You sound like a very multi-faceted guy, with a great eye for photography as well hand6.gif

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Thanks, both of you.

Mark, I hope the pic helps you and your cause, we all have battles to fight.  Good luck on the watch.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 22nd, 2007 04:00 pm
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Mystery solved!

I noticed that the dial was slightly misaligned, so I opened the watch up to realign the dial (done this many times on watches).  Well to my horror, when I opened it, there was one of the retaining tabs and a sheared off screw head flying around loosely in the case.  I suppose that when the watch stopped yesterday, it was as a result of the screw head getting into the works, and then working free when I shook the watch. 

So, I am now waiting to hear beck from the seller about a resolution.  The problem will be removing the broken screw from the movement.  If that can be accomplished, then a new screw will fix it. 

Any hints on how to safely remove the screw stump from the hole in the movement?

 

Attachment: sheared screw.jpg (Downloaded 28 times)

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