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| Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 10:35 pm |
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Chick Hazzard 3T WIS 
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Replica=Cheap Chinese Copy I want a Panerai 1936 Radiomir, but it costs close to 7 G's. I can buy a cheap chinese copy with a Swiss Unitas movement for less than 500, and no one will really know the difference, but me. But that's the problem, I'll know it's a fake. Can't live with. I think prints of famous paintings are different. Most of that stuff is in museums and people know it's a print, but you can still appreciate the beauty of it.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 10:37 pm |
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hucky 3T WIS 
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Wanna buy a rolex cheap 
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 11:39 pm |
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zippofan 3T WIS 
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When I was in NYC last month I was sorely tempted to walk over to the "briefcase" guys with the fake watches at the Seaport. But I figured: 1. I would get ripped off 2. If I did buy one I would know it was a fake 3. I would prefer a "homage" with a known pedigree (and warranty!) I just couldn't do it. When I got home I bought a completely original Swatch Fun Scuba and got a great watch that is totally cool. Plus I have a clear conscience. As much as I want a Heuer Carrera, I'll wait until I can afford a real one rather than going for one of the fakes that I have seen on so many "replica watch" websites. I am always lecturing students about not stealing music through peer-to-peer websites. If I bought one, then I would be a hypocrite because ultimately fakes are stealing. JMHO. Cheers, Griff
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| Posted: Sat Sep 29th, 2007 12:20 am |
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mjl4321 3T WIS 
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The Ansel Adams print you purchased is produced with the permission of the Adams family who own the copyright of that image. The owner of the copyright benefits financially. The fake Rolex does not have the permission of the company that spent large amounts of time and money building a quality brand only to be 'leached' by someone looking to make a quick buck. As someone who has invested time and significant resources building a company selling software, I take it very seriously when someone illegally copies that software and deprives me of my livelihood simply because they cannot afford to buy the original. Copyright infringment is theft. jsb806f wrote: Hucky,
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| Posted: Sat Sep 29th, 2007 12:57 am |
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KenC Admin 
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jsb806f wrote: That's making more sense to me Ken. I would probably be more confortable if I were buying a "Bolex" designed to look like a Rolex versus a watch specifically made to deceive one into believing it is the real deal. I believe the Hong Kong Sandoz does that by comparing itself to the Rolex in side-by-side pictures. They are saying our product "looks" like a Rolex but at a fraction of the cost. So if you like the look but can't afford the real thing consider our Sandoz. they aren't selling a product designed to masquerade as a Rolex. I'm not sure of the exact legal consequences, but it would seem that regardless of intent, one would, in fact, be dealing in counterfeit goods, which is...against the law! Most people that buy the fake Louis V purses, Rolex reps, etc., know that the goods are not the real thing, but, in purchasing it, they are suborning the manufacturers (counterfeiters) and distributors, and thus...the crime! Believe me, I understand the dilemma, but look st it this way, if you get arrested holding counterfeit $50 bills, the reason that you weren't really going to spend it, is not going to keep you out of the slammer.:) That said, knowing that there is no evil intent, I would say that it is purely a personal choice and make no judgement......a good "replica" that has the same quality movement as the original, the same detail of fit and finish, et AL, can be had for 1/10 the price of the original...and that overcharging by Panny, Rolex, etc, is what I think is really criminal! 
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| Posted: Sat Sep 29th, 2007 01:13 am |
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Scuba Steve 3T WIS 
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Lets put this simple. If you buy a watch from a place that is selling replica watches, even thought they say up front they are replicas you and the seller are both breaking the law. He is selling counterfeit goods and you are knowingly buying counterfeit goods. Lets not mix up a homage with a replica though. Those are not illegal. If it says Rolex on the dial and it isn't a Rolex, that is a replica or a fake. If for example you buy a Marcello C Nettuno which has an Oyster case very much the same as a Rolex Submariner, that is a homage and totally legal as well as ethical watch to own. Don't get suckered into buying a fake Rolex to see if you would like the real thing. Buy a Homage to see if the style fits you and pleases you. One more thing to add. If you buy a replica you will more than likely never be able to get it serviced as any ethical watchmaker will confiscate it and turn it over to the authorities along with your information on how to get ahold of you. Point to remember is that the movements in most replicas are rough Japanese motors that will keep terrible time. If they do have an ETA in them they are not normally regulated and are stock grade. It just isn't worth the hassle as well as legal consequences for a cheap knock off watch. Plus even if you own a real one, all you hear is "Is that a fake." They don't really garner the respect like they used to even though they are very fine timepieces. Last edited on Sat Sep 29th, 2007 01:15 am by Scuba Steve |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 29th, 2007 02:05 am |
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IWR222 3T WIS 
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this year we went to thailand for our holidays .this place is the home of the copy,i had a look and play with the fakes . more than one fell apart in my hands , though the best bit for me was the guy trying to prove the watch had a saffire crystal not on that iwc it didnt.he took his screwdriver and hit the glass several times making a real mess. i thought my trousers would never dry. i came away without a watch despite a friend at work asking me to get him one,stay clear is my advice.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 29th, 2007 10:38 am |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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In my world replica = counterfeit = NO!! I can deal with the homage. I am mixed on the Alpha which I am sure produces replicas as well as selling their own homages. My sister in law brought me back two replicas from a visit to China. It was a funny move on her part. Do I wear my $40 worth of Rolex. NEVER!!  
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| Posted: Sat Sep 29th, 2007 11:14 am |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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I'm also fine with a homage but a replica well it would end up in a recycle bin or I would break it down so I could get a very close look. :?
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| Posted: Sat Sep 29th, 2007 12:36 pm |
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jdmac 3T WIS 
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I own a very early Rolex dateJust Replica That was given to me by a Family Member at a funeral for my Nearest and Dearest Friend who died at a mere 28 years old. They new I collected watches and wished me to have it. They offered me the home he just purchased 6 mo's previous of his death at what he payed ( a mear 45,000) and even offered to finance the downpayment. I respectfully denied as I don't think it would have felt right or a happy home. I wear this replica one day a year, on the anniversary of his passing, and wear it proudly. Take it out for a little Beverage and show it off, than back in the vault for another year. 7 years passed and many more to grieve. But, Ya know what. Thingy is nearly 25 years old I suspect and still Runs!!!!!! Just my 2 cents worth.................. I really like how a few SWISS ROLEX Makers are actually building pieces with ETA-Valjoux, etc-Solid gold cases-Bracelets and Charging near 2000.00 Exact To a T Replicas. Why not spend the extra and get the real deal????????? I seriously thought about one Early this year as I wanted a Sub-18kt Full Gold and the price for new is 22,500.00 CDN. At 1900.00 for a copy that would pass any eye except the red wheels on the movement. Anyway, Lucked out a month later and found a 2004 Model for 9500.00USD...........PAID TO hold out and overide Temptation. Now, I could probably double my initial investment, and in years to come??????????????? $$$ CHING-CHING$$$ HAHA Last edited on Sat Sep 29th, 2007 12:37 pm by jdmac |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 29th, 2007 01:07 pm |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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WOW JD what a story. In such a case I would make an exception for such a watch too.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 29th, 2007 01:12 pm |
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KenC Admin
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This subject has been discussed before...mostly on other forum with a great deal of vitrol and name calling....Ian I intitially thought this migt get oout of hand. It is an interesting subject with many different feeling concerning both moral and legal approaches. It is nice to finely see it discuss with intelligence and civilty rather than the usual bickering BS! hand6.gif Please forgive me for having doubts about the quality of the 3T membership!!! coyote2.gif
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