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OldeCrow
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Elation!

My new impulse buy arrived a day early!
Swiss Legend 1000m Diver

Initial impressions, WOW! it's big, the fit and finish is pretty well spot on and it's got 24mm lugs so my sweet blue Panny straps will fit it!  ThumbsUp02.gif

It's also got a beautiful boxset/winder that is as good as anything I have seen, the presentation is top notch!

It's a remarkable watch if you don't need to see it in the dark that is...  mistake.gif

What a disappointment!! It has huge hands and markers just begging to be properly lumed but with the text "swiss movt" on the dial it should be a clue that no amount of TV magic is going to make Taiwan lume into superluminova...  :supercry06:

The crown doesn't thread tightly to the case which without opening it up and looking at the design of the crown and tube would worry me as far as it being watertight. This is the only technical problem I can see.


$800.00 will buy a lot of just about any other decent watch and for that kind of money I had better not find anything to complain about. It's going back!  mistake.gif

Some quick and dirty shots before I tape the box shut...





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Thanks for the pix and quick heads up. ;) I had looked at it but decided to pass. I guess the good old gut feeling saved me there. :? LOL :D

 

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Chris, thanks for saving us the trouble. I looke too bnut the old (Swiis Movt) scared me off!! Out of curiosity, how owuld you price the watch regarding the actual value you receibve? I am guessing $199 might be a reasonable price for a piece of this quality... or am I low balling it?

You know it wil eventually end up near the low ball price!!

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Paxman wrote: Chris, thanks for saving us the trouble. I looked too but the old (Swiis Movt) scared me off!! Out of curiosity, how owuld you price the watch regarding the actual value you receibve? I am guessing $199 might be a reasonable price for a piece of this quality... or am I low balling it?

You know it wil eventually end up near the low ball price!!

Well after sleeping on it I have decided to keep the Swiss Legend.
I still stand by my initial comments but I have had time to reflect on the watch and peoples comments.

Several people pointed out that their was more to a watch than just the lume and while the lume is still very disappointing for a watch with 3x5mm markers and 2mm wide hands the Entire package and presentation of the watch is amazing and the watch really is remarkable. My complaint about the crown not threading down tightly against the case seems to have been unfounded as well, With some maneuvering the crown seats down fine and you can feel it stop against a gasket so I am confident that at least that much is OK.

In defense of the watch I didn't watch the show where they whored it (until after I bought the watch online) so I didn't actually have any expectations of the lume other than it looks like it should have some. I still believe the lack of lume is an amateur mistake and reflects the clear absence of design feedback from watch enthusiasts but in the grand scheme of things I can send it in for a lume job and have a pretty interesting time piece to show off to other WIS.

Where would I "lowball" the value of this watch? I would guess with the dial label of "Swiss Movt" it was not pressure tested to 1000m but I am pretty sure I will never find out if it will go that deep. The winder is a three mode model either direction or both and it is completly silent. The serial number/qc label for the winder is hand written in Arabic numbers so if it was made in China I can't prove it by the writing. It is a seriously nice winder and box so at least the price of a good winder is part of the price of this package deal.

I would say at $500.00-$600.00 dollars it would be a great deal, $800.00 is pretty steep for an over sized Invicta with a good quality winder. On the plus side it doesn't actually say Invicta on it anywhere!
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Although the screws for the bracelet links look pretty rough the overall fit and finish is as good as any watch I have and the dial is very nice.

Also it's got 25mm lugs so straps will probably be special order items!

now for some better pictures...

Timed lume shots
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I saw the show when whatever his name was talking about this watch and I thought it looked nice but, then I said to myself $800 I guess that incl. the winder so maybe thats right. Anyway it looks good as i suspected but still $600 hmmmmmmmmmmm I just dont see it in that watch.

PS where it in good healthhand6.gif

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interesting watch but pricey unless it performs well.  and the winder is a plus although they are getting less costly with the chinese ones flooding the market. saw a single one at tj maxx for $39.00 the other day. it didn't have any battery and i could still hear it ticking watch2.gif.

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jakisbck wrote: I saw the show when whatever his name was talking about this watch and I thought it looked nice but, then I said to myself $800? I guess that incl. the winder so maybe thats right. Anyway it looks good as i suspected but still $600 hmmmmmmmmmmm I just dont see it in that watch.

PS where it in good healthhand6.gif

I'm to the point where I always think to myself "Why should I shell out a sizable chunk of a Breitling or Omega for some no name watch with probably no manufacturer support at all". I could have spent it on a new Steelfish or Planet ocean or found some killer deal on the bay for some obscure "uber" cool watch...
 mistake.gif

well I bought it on "flexpay" so It means I will have to skip buying one $150.00 watch a month for the next four or five months... That will leave me plenty of time to decide if It was really worth it ThumbsUp02.gif



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isn't it $1200 on SlopNBC?? Or was it on a sale when you got it?

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the premier price was $800.00

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ah hatoon1.gif

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pssst... I decided to send it back again, last straw winder won't keep a watch wound!

Swiss Legend, the legend of Swiss cheese maybe!

done, done, and gone!

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Please stick with your first impression. Send it back. cat28.gif

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I PULLED THE TRIGGER ON THIS WATCH AND AFTER THINKING ABOUT IT FOR AN HOUR ...I CANCELLED THE ORDER ...AT FIRST I THOUGHT I WAS BUYING A CHARMEX BRAND ?!?!?!?! THEN I REALIZED THAT IT WASNT A CHARMEX AND I CANCELLED THINKING I COULD BUY AN OCEAN 7 OR ALMOST AN ORIENT STAR YELLOW DIVER ....I ULTIMATLY DECIDED ON BUYING THE ORIENT STAR YELLOW FOR ROUGHLY 1000 SHIPPED .....WILL ARRIVE NEXT WEEK   hearteyes.gif

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LOOKS LIKE A NICE WATCH BUT BIGGER ISN'T ALWAYS BETTER i GUESS.....Can get some nice swiss watches for $800......8 ball anyone!!

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canadajo wrote: I PULLED THE TRIGGER ON THIS WATCH AND AFTER THINKING ABOUT IT FOR AN HOUR ...I CANCELLED THE ORDER ...AT FIRST I THOUGHT I WAS BUYING A CHARMEX BRAND ?!?!?!?! THEN I REALIZED THAT IT WASNT A CHARMEX AND I CANCELLED THINKING I COULD BUY AN OCEAN 7 OR ALMOST AN ORIENT STAR YELLOW DIVER ....I ULTIMATLY DECIDED ON BUYING THE ORIENT STAR YELLOW FOR ROUGHLY 1000 SHIPPED .....WILL ARRIVE NEXT WEEK   hearteyes.gif

As I understand it Swiss Legend is a brand of SWI who deals with much of the domestic warranty issues for ShopNBC's watch sales and I believe they deal with other companies like Jacques Lemans (oh I guess that is another ShopNBC brand too) for domestic warranty work too.

I really tried hard to like the watch If it had been made by any respectable company and at least made in Europe somewhere the improved details would have made the watch but the Devil is in the details and I don't smell brimstone anywhere...

Lesson learned I think maybe I will go hunt down a Sinn656 now!!
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You are correct. Swiss Legend is SWI's brand. They are the U.S. importers for Jacques Lemans amoung other brands.


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