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 Posted: Fri May 22nd, 2009 10:32 am
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Remember2 wrote: oagaspar wrote:
I would like to educate a few of you as to what this eta 2836 modified/GMT is....1st of all eta does make a 2836 which is a day/date version of the 2824-2....they do not however make a eta 2836 modified/GMT and never have...check their catologue....to the best of my knowledge as well as other experienced WIS whom I learned this from and some research the 2836 modified/GMT is a Asian modified movement used for years in Replica watches...


Are you sure about that?!? If I recall correct, Zinex uses a 2836-2 GMT for the "Trimix". I pretty much doubt that Joe (founder) would use anything cheaply modified?!?
I know they might have them specially made - but maybe Ralf has something simular up his sleeve?



I can't comment on the watch you mentioned because I do not own 1 or have knowledge of the movement used....but do a google search and see for yourself of "eta 2836 modified/GMT"....there is no eta 2836 GMT in the eta catologue,why would eta make this movement or even modify it if they produce a true GMT in the eta 2893? ....are you sure? face4.gif 

Ralf knows what he is doing by sourcing a eta 2893 for his GMT....then there will be no ????hand6.gif...this is a post I copied from WUS where it seems many visit,it is written by a well known WIS and watchmaker:

It's not just xxxxx that have problems, the 2836 is not designed to run as a GMT, these Chinese modded movements will all give you trouble eventually so just steer away from the 2836 GMT models, if you just have to have one save your money for a 2893...

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 Posted: Fri May 22nd, 2009 10:57 am
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Yes Oscar is right Eta dose not make the 2836 as a GMT that modification is made by or contracted to be done by the watch maker. Just like the one in my Bernhardt Globemaster. A modded 2836 to act as a GMT. But the 2893 is built by Eta to be a GMT and a much better movement for it. ;)

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 Posted: Fri May 22nd, 2009 11:05 am
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oagaspar wrote: Remember2 wrote: oagaspar wrote:
I would like to educate a few of you as to what this eta 2836 modified/GMT is....1st of all eta does make a 2836 which is a day/date version of the 2824-2....they do not however make a eta 2836 modified/GMT and never have...check their catologue....to the best of my knowledge as well as other experienced WIS whom I learned this from and some research the 2836 modified/GMT is a Asian modified movement used for years in Replica watches...


Are you sure about that?!? If I recall correct, Zinex uses a 2836-2 GMT for the "Trimix". I pretty much doubt that Joe (founder) would use anything cheaply modified?!?
I know they might have them specially made - but maybe Ralf has something simular up his sleeve?


I can't comment on the watch you mentioned because I do not own 1 or have knowledge of the movement used....but do a google search and see for yourself of "eta 2836 modified/GMT"....there is no eta 2836 GMT in the eta catologue,why would eta make this movement or even modify it if they produce a true GMT in the eta 2893? ....are you sure? face4.gif 

Ralf knows what he is doing by sourcing a eta 2893 for his GMT....then there will be no ????hand6.gif ...this is a post I copied from WUS where it seems many visit,it is written by a well known WIS and watchmaker:

It's not just xxxxx that have problems, the 2836 is not designed to run as a GMT, these Chinese modded movements will all give you trouble eventually so just steer away from the 2836 GMT models, if you just have to have one save your money for a 2893...



Yes...the ETA2836 movement is a day/date version of the ETA2824 movement in which the "day" wheel is modified to provide the GMT function.  I have one in my Bernhardt Globemaster.  That said, I must say that the ones I have (and I have had 2 - retained 1) have worked flawlessly.  I have also had the ETA2893 in a MarcelloC Nettuno GMT which did not perform as well, however, that I write up to being a fluke and the fact that Marcello quality (IMO) is not everything it is cracked up to be.

Bottom line, IMO, is that you can get a good GMT with the modified movement, BUT, it is modified "outside the manufacturer's house" and there is much more risk involved in that than there is in purchasing a movement manufactured with the complication to serve the intended purpose.

All of these words add up to the fact that Oscar, as usual, is right.  The right movement for the watch is the ETA2893.

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 Posted: Fri May 22nd, 2009 11:20 am
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Ken that must have been a fluke. The 2893 in my Hamilton is solid! And sweet! :)

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 Posted: Fri May 22nd, 2009 10:56 pm
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Are there any quartz movements out there available to Ralf/Benarus that have solar or mechanical recharging? I might consider one of those.

Anyway, it looks like the 2893 GMT version has won the poll with a commanding lead. CNN would have called this one pages ago. :)

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 Posted: Sat May 23rd, 2009 03:08 am
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It does kind of look like a convincing victory for the 2893.:)

If Ralf receives deposits off the 40 people (current figure) who voted for it then surely the project must go ahead?

 

 

 

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 Posted: Sat May 23rd, 2009 08:18 am
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Remember even if this is a go folks it is out there in the future a bit. ;)

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