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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS 
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The Moray will be shipped with a rubber strap, and a leather strap. The leather strap is a different style than the Sea Devil and the Barracuda but I will let it remain a surprise. The watch and accessories will be shipped in a black roll up travel case that holds many large sized watches.   |
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teddyhanna Guest
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KEWL....SOUNDS GOOD STEVE |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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The roll-up is an excellent idea Steve!....I have used one for travel for a couple years and it saves a gang of space and is much easier to use imho hand6.gifhand6.gif |
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Bead-Blasted 3T WIS 
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This is cool! Pleasant surprise... Anxious to see the leather strap as well. Though I have many 24mm straps, I am hoping extras will be available for sale as accessories on the website. |
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Nabco 3T WIS 
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Looks great Steve, an awesome idea...one more reason (like we needed one) to be excited about the Moray |
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q_at96 3T WIS
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very very cool... Q |
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sooner76 Guest
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Steve Laughlin wrote:The watch and accessories will be shipped in a black roll up travel case that holds many large sized watches. Leather . . . or leatherette? |
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novicecollector 3T WIS
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While I admire the practical nature of this case, I must say I really liked the look of the case that came with the Sea Devil. I was looking forward to using it to store my Moray on the rare occasions it wasn't the watch of choice... |
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Gregger 3T WIS 
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Not sure about the wrap...looks like watches can hit each other and scratch...I prefer the case that the SD came in..but that's just me!!! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Gregger wrote: Not sure about the wrap...looks like watches can hit each other and scratch...I prefer the case that the SD came in..but that's just me!!! the watch head slips into the pouch and is completely covered and then their is a velour flap that cover the rest before the wrap is even rolled up...so it is really triple protection....much better system and no way a watch can get scratched if used properly.hand6.gif |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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I will get more of the 4 watch travel boxes in soon and post them in the 3T sales forum. Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 08:15 pm by Steve Laughlin |
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Wozza 3T WIS 
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I am sure the Roll-up wrap will be great but I REALLY love the zip up case my Sea Devil came in. |
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ctafield 3T WIS
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Fantastic! You must be psychic or something. I was thinking on my way to work this morning how I need to sort something out like this for my upcoming holidays (vacation!) and then I see this. Saved me a task now. Looks great btw! |
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johnboy24 3T WIS
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Gregger wrote: Not sure about the wrap...looks like watches can hit each other and scratch...I prefer the case that the SD came in..but that's just me!!! Like "Gregger" I prefer the "SD" case and assumed, rightly or wrongly, that is what the Moray would be shipped in. Part of watch collecting is having all the correct boxes etc. This roll looks IMHO like a tool wrap I can buy at my local DIY store. The "SD" case looks as though it would contain something special,before opening, whereas this roll disappoints on all fronts. Please reconsider. |
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Omarino 3T WIS 
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Gregger ha scritto: Not sure about the wrap...looks like watches can hit each other and scratch...I prefer the case that the SD came in..but that's just me!!! Quote Gregger. I prefer the style of SD case too... I like preserve my watchs in them specific box. Omar Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 05:03 am by Omarino |
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robcuk 3T WIS 
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johnboy24 wroteI agree, the 'tool roll' doesn't appeal at all,please think about this. Rob |
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novicecollector 3T WIS
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There appears to be a significant number of people (myself included) that thought the Sea Devil case was going to be the case for the Moray, and that the proposed 'watch roll' doesn't reflect the high standard set by the watch itself, and generally doesn't quite 'cut it'. Personally, I will never have occasion to use the travel roll, since I almost always take only one watch on each trip. I will be interested to see how Ralf and Steve respond, given their high level of receptiveness to client feedback in the past. |
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ctafield 3T WIS
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novicecollector wrote:There appears to be a significant number of people (myself included) that thought the Sea Devil case was going to be the case for the Moray, and that the proposed 'watch roll' doesn't reflect the high standard set by the watch itself, and generally doesn't quite 'cut it'. Here's my solution... provide both hand6.gif |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 08:17 pm by Steve Laughlin |
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Gregger 3T WIS
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If cost is an issue then what would the SD case cost without the Benarus logo and matching stich work? But to be honest I really don't care what it comes in because all my autos are on winders and since I never sell watches the boxes, etc. will be stored away and collecting dust..... Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 10:18 am by Gregger |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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I will look into it. also, I will be getting a few of these soon that I will be selling here on 3T.  |
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Bead-Blasted 3T WIS
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Though I prefer a case of some sort, I realize the value in the Moray itself. If it was sent it was sent in bubble wrap housed in a cardboard box, I still think it is one he// of a bargain... |
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watchu2 3T WIS 
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I am wondering why forum input was not considered prior to the production of the wrap up. Every other phase of the watch was open for discussion, allowing us to offer our input and thoughts. Also, if cost was a consideration, and the wraps cost extra money out of Ralf's pocket, I would have gladly saved some money and had my watches ship sans wrap up. The watch box that came with the SD was such a great bonus to an already outstanding watch. The Moray will be a fantastic watch, with or without a case, just no cherry on top of the sundae. I need to lose weight anyway. goofy Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 10:26 am by watchu2 |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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Gregger wrote:If cost is an issue then what would the SD case cost without the Benarus logo and matching stich work? But to be honest I really don't care what it comes in because all my autos are on winders and since I never sell watches the boxes, etc. will be stored away and collecting dust..... I think this is the same for many, it is for me too. The Benarus boxes get put away. I think new customers who don't have a box might be a little disappointed, but the box gets put away and not used, this travel roll-up can be used with not just your BENARUS watches, but a set of watches that you want to take on a trip. It can also be laid flat in a drawer like the box, and protect the watches while they are not being worn. |
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ctafield 3T WIS
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Steve Laughlin wrote:
My comment about "both" was tongue in cheek. I am really pleased to be getting a travel roll-up up with my Moray. I do need one, and like yourself (and others) keep my watches either on the winder or in a watch box. Quite keen on buying one of those harder travel boxes you just posted a picture off too actually :) |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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Thanks for everyones feedback. Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 08:18 pm by Steve Laughlin |
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teddyhanna Guest
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Steve thanks for the info. Great explanation and we appreciate that. I really dig the travel bag. I want to say thank you for the extra straps coming in this deal...yourock.gif BENARUS ROCKS...........yourock.gif |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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I'm going to take into consideration as to what I am reading that for the most part those who are so wanting the watch box are new to the hobby and that this means something special to you?....all I can say is that once you start seriously collecting and have been around awhile amassing a large collection those boxes become nothing but a big nuisance.:D I am sure Ralf and Steve took their time in making this decision and felt as I do that the wrap was the icing on the cake!...one thing I have noticed about Benarus is their attention to detail and not being like everyone else...take for instance these carry boxes which Ralf was one of the very 1st to use and now every forum watchguy is using them!...I can see the next wave of forums watches all using this wrap in the near future,so I look at it like I was the 1st on the block to get this very cool wrap which is actually a great travel case! ..and I Thank Ralf and Steve for taking the extra time to make sure I get more than my monies worthhand6.gifhand6.gif I know as a newbie it was awesome to display my watch in the carriage it came in but as I said after awhile they just became a burden trying to find a place to store them all as my collection grew and my watches found their way into collectors cases.....now these are collectible...watch boxes?...Nah...not imho! Most companies don't even tell you what your watch is coming in and quite frankly who cares becuase my only interest is the watch ...there seems to be this trend among new WIS who just expect everything...extra straps,tools,lug screws....hey what next a free watch too! ....wait until you buy your 1st Rolex or Omega and you only get the watch and a box...c'mon give a seasoned WIS a break! :D |
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Stu65 3T WIS
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Like a lot of guys on here the boxes as nice as they are just get put away and barely seen again or just sold on to someone on the 'bay'. For me i think the roll is an excellent choice and a lot more useful but i am glad to be able to get a great looking watch at an incredible price and the extra straps and tools are a bonus and pure genius by Ralf and Steve. I for one say thanks to Ralf and Steve as i wait biting my nails, fingers and generally chomping at the bit for the release date. Keep up the good work guys. hand6.gif Stu. Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 11:39 am by Stu65 |
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DM71 3T WIS 
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oagaspar wrote: I'm going to take into consideration as to what I am reading that for the most part those who are so wanting the watch box are new to the hobby and that this means something special to you?....all I can say is that once you start seriously collecting and have been around awhile amassing a large collection those boxes become nothing but a big nuisance.:D ... After reading your post, i have to agree with you Oscar. Thank you to put it in perspective. hand6.gif Even if the case was very nice, we will probably appreciate the travel pouch very much once we have it. By the way, how many watches can be stored in it? 5 or so? |
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Fidgit 3T WIS 
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Boxes are a pain. I dont think I have a single watch in one. Even watches that sit the bench. I use the nylon watch coffins for travel. Or in my car. This wrap will be big upgrade. |
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robcuk 3T WIS
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I would prefer the SD case, but as several have pointed out the watch is the main event!! Just a suggestion, why not offer the case as an chargeable extra (like Steinhart) or offer it free to the first x buyers ( or only those that pay in full 'upfront'). You might be pleasantly suprised :-) Rob |
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sooner76 Guest
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I guess I'm in the minority here, but I prefer the roll-up travel case. I like taking 3 - 4 watches with me when I travel, but packing them safely yet in minimal space is always problematic. I have a soft-sided zippered Orbita case that's very compact (and very overpriced), but it only holds two watches. A roll-up is really the only practical, space-efficient solution for traveling with more than two that I know of. For what it's worth, Magrette ships their watches in a roll-up too. While I'm at it, a plug for the 4-watch case pictured below. Way too big to travel with IMO, but a great solution if (like me) you prefer storing your watches lying down rather than buckled around a pillow. I was lucky to get the last one, and I already have my name in for another if more become available. |
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soopah Guest
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sooner76 wrote: I bought one of those, too. Just waiting for it to arrive. I can understand the concerns of first time buyers and newbie collectors. I must say I really like the Benarus watch cases that came with the Barracuda and Sea Devil. That said, I currently have some of my watches stored in a Pelican 1120 case (can hold 4 watches) using pick-n-pluck foam (see attached, Sea Devil is now GONE!). I am looking forward to the travel roll case that is being provided with the Moray. BTW, it looks like leatherette to me, but I'll let Steve clarify that. For those of you wanting a Benarus watch case, perhaps some will go up for sale at some point. Once I get my four watch case I might let my Barracuda case go (blue stitching, but no Benarus logo on that case). I for one am very interested in what the leather strap will look like. Attachment: Barracuda Sea Devil Incursore G-Shock medium.JPG (Downloaded 133 times) |
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Nabco 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: I'm going to take into consideration as to what I am reading that for the most part those who are so wanting the watch box are new to the hobby and that this means something special to you?....all I can say is that once you start seriously collecting and have been around awhile amassing a large collection those boxes become nothing but a big nuisance.:D 100% right on the money Oscar, I could not have said it better...you saved me a bunch of typing, that is exactly what I was going to say. The cases that came with the SD are nice, but I opened the box, took out the watch put the case back in the cardboard box and put it in storage.....the travel roll will be awesome, that is something I will use every week!!! Great job Ralf and Steve....keep up the great work  |
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ctafield 3T WIS
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Did I miss the sale of those 4 watch Benarus cases? :( Would have loved to buy one. |
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soopah Guest
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He had some, and they sold out. But I believe Steve is getting more to sell. You need to check the for sale forum: http://timetechtalk.com/view_forum.php?id=8 Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 03:34 pm by |
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ctafield 3T WIS
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soopah wrote: I believe Steve is getting more to sell. He only had four cases the first go around. You need to check the for sale forum: http://timetechtalk.com/view_forum.php?id=8 Aaah right. Thank you for that :) |
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BENARUS 3T WIS 
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I see not everybody is happy with the new watch role, so I try to explain why I ordered it. First, I use those roles when I go to watch shows , the watches are well protected and they need not to much space. The only disadvantage was that all the regular roles are to small for big and thick watches. This role is now big enough for Barracudas, Sea Devils and Morays and many other bigger sized watches. The next point is that many of you are collectors and have more than one watch and many come with big boxes which need a lot of space at home. Third point I wanted to offer something new and practical for all of you who already own a Barracuda or Sea Devil , I think you don't need a second box. The price was not a point,the cost for boxes and role are quite similar. I guess and hope you will like it when you get it , I do so and especially when it comes with a Moray inside ;). Btw I have also ordered some more of the 4 watch boxes and every Moray first owner gets a $10 discount if he wants to buy one. Enjoy your weekend Ralf Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 04:06 pm by BENARUS |
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Bead-Blasted 3T WIS
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Well stated and completely understood... I dig the reasoning and the folder is something out of the ordinary. Kinda like the Moray! Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 08:13 pm by Bead-Blasted |
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q_at96 3T WIS
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Ralf and Steve, thanks for providing the options.. i will be taking advantage of the watchbox offer since i need something at home for my pieces.. but the travel roll is great... now i can bring more than 1 extra watch when i go places... cheers, Q |
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soopah Guest
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Hmm, the Moray is my first purchase direct from Benarus, but no matter, I don't need the box discount (I already paid for one which is en route to me). Thanks for the offer to first time buyers, Ralf! |
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ncmoto 3T WIS 
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I also prefer the case my Sea Devil came in. Sorry but IMHO that roll looks.. Well kinda cheap. I have a SD and 3 Morays on the way. For me the watch box the SD arrived in was part of the excitement of a new arrival. I have a rather large collection and that part of the arrival ritual never gets old for me.Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 11:37 pm by ncmoto |
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BlueViper 3T WIS
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For those of you who have not used a quality watch roll to travel with, you will be amazed at how useful it really is. (Especially a roll that can hold larger watches - Thanks Ralf!) A quality watch roll is sooooo much of a better choice....you will see. Thanks Ralf for adding just one more item to make the Moray special. woohoo.gif |
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Relativity 3T WIS
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ncmoto wrote: I also prefer the case my Sea Devil came in. Sorry but IMHO that roll looks.. Well kinda cheap. I must say that I agree with you ncmoto. Whilst I don't have a Moray on order I do hope that my Megalodon arrives in a similar case to the Sea Devil rather than in a roll. Opinion is clearly divided on the roll versus case -- presumably those members who travel frequently are more inclined towards the roll? It's all probably academic anyway -- my SD is rarely put awayBouncy.gif |
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TopGun 3T WIS
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IMHO, it doesn't matter what the timepiece comes in because I never keep them in their original boxes. That's the reason why we buy watch boxes that will hold multiples. I have 3 12 slot boxes and in need of another. However, I like Ralph's idea of offering something different with different models. I have a SD and I relaly love it. I also have a 4 slot box coming. With the addition of the Moray, I will have a roll up case. I don't know of any other company that offers something with each model. I love this concept of having something different. For those who were expecting a case, you now have an opportunity of purchasing the 4 slot at a discount. Ralph didn't have to do this, but this shows what a class act he is and why Benarus has such a following. |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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Guys anyone who likes to travel with more than 2 watches is going to find this to be very useful. And you don't have to just use it for watches. :cool: Ralf did good here. ;) If ya don't like it just send it to me. I can always find a use for stuff like this. LOL :D |
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VMMVMMM 3T WIS 
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I have to say that I am frankly disappointed that the case will not be the same as or comparable to the sea devil. It may not mean much to some, but that was actually one of the selling points of the watch for me, but then again, that was simply my assumption. Will there be any tools coming with the watch? If it is coming with a roll and not a box, does that mean no screwdrivers? I appreciate everyone sharing their opinions about this, as everyone may feel different than I do, but I don't like any assumptions being made that only those who are new to collecting would appreciate the box. That may be true for some, but not for all. All I know is I prefer the SD box over the travel roll. I travel a lot and only ever take one, maybe two watches with me, so I don't think this will benefit me. I would appreciate some consideration. |
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BENARUS 3T WIS
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The Moray will also come with 2 screw drivers and there is a extra space for them on the left side    VMMVMMM wrote: I have to say that I am frankly disappointed that the case will not be the same as or comparable to the sea devil. It may not mean much to some, but that was actually one of the selling points of the watch for me, but then again, that was simply my assumption. |
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jasontking 3T WIS
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At first I was dissapointed about no box. Now after seeing more pics and some of the discussion, I am very happy to be receiving it. Excellent choice. Thank you. |
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serser 3T WIS
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I have a lot of cases and boxes, and most of them just getting dust.... so a Roll is nice additon for me!! |
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sooner76 Guest
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Excellent, Ralf . . . that's something I can really use. Is it leather or a man-made material? |
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Gregger 3T WIS
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The additional photos show that the watches will be protected...now...I need my Moray  |
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BlueViper 3T WIS
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Having a watch roll that will hold LARGE watches is rare. If you do not want yours, I bet you can make some money selling the roll after you get the watch. Great job Ralf! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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it amazes me to think there is a discussion over something as simple as what a watch arrives in let alone what freebies are coming with the packaging. :D VMMVMMM wrote: I have to say that I am frankly disappointed that the case will not be the same as or comparable to the sea devil. It may not mean much to some, but that was actually one of the selling points of the watch for me, but then again, that was simply my assumption. |
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ncmoto 3T WIS
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Why dismiss other peoples' opinions who have ordered watches simply because they do not agree with you? |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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as I said it amazes me that this is even a topic of discussion...walk into an AD and buy a watch...then tell him you don't care for the carriage it is in and prefer a different one and then ask him to throw in some screwdrivers and a couple extra straps...do you get the picture I am seeing?... Ralf/Steve/Benarus and ownership of this forum work very hard to bring something to WIS that is not offered anywhere else that I know of...and that is member participation along with discounts ,extras and special ordering of case finishes,hands and even dial colors at no extra charge yet this doesn't seem to be enough for some!....what I am saying is give some consideration to those who bring these things to the table instead of whining...and that is what all this is..whining not opinions imo!...remember the saying "it won't be missed until it is gone" and hopefully this doesn't prove to be the "case" here....no pun intended ;) |
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Nabco 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: as I said it amazes me that this is even a topic of discussion...walk into an AD and buy a watch...then tell him you don't care for the carriage it is in and prefer a different one and then ask him to throw in some screwdrivers and a couple extra straps...do you get the picture I am seeing?... +1 Amazing |
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VMMVMMM 3T WIS
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I can understand how you could have that perspective, I suppose, but I feel like I am looking at it another way. Ralf and Steve have said that the cost is equal, they are just trying to supply the best option for everyone. In order to know what that is, it's important to know what opinions are. I'm not looking to nit pick over "freebies," but I also don't think these are freebies at all, I think they are a part of the overall package that is a Benarus watch. Given that they are equal in cost and effort, my choice would be the box over the roll. That is my personal choice. I think that since expectations have been set so high - to the outstanding credit of Ralf/Steve, please don't take that as anything beside what I am trying to communicate - there was an implied expectation that the case would be something as good or better. Now, setting aside the point that depending on your perspective, this may indeed be a better option, if your expectation and desire was to own at least a similar box to the SD, there was at least the potential for some disappointment with a dramatically different offering. Given that, all I'm saying is that in my opinion, the overall package is not as valuable to me as it would be with the box. I may be up in the night, or in the vast minority, or too inexperienced to really understand what a weathered and experienced watch collector understands, but I absolutely don't think I'm complaining about freebies. The packaging is a way to differentiate your product and add value, whether real or perceived. Granted, it has no effect on the actual core product, but since we are discussing the packaging here in this thread, I don't see any issue with taking into consideration all opinions. I haven't seen any insults yet, so I think the conversation has been healthy. I can't believe that Ralf and Steve read this and get offended or angry because someone communicates their opinion, on the contrary, I'm sure they value all feedback. They have actually demonstrated that in their actions, so I don't fear they will take anything away from us in future products because of some complaints or shared opinions. Those who come to these forums to discuss items are always more passionate than the general public, so I think this is to be expected, actually. I'm not here to convince anyone to believe the way I do, I just like people to understand where I'm coming from. If you think differently than I do, I have no problem with that at all. If we all thought the same, this would be a very boring place to spend any time. Not passing judgment on anyone, just sharing my opinion and hoping I'm respected while doing it. |
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Relativity 3T WIS
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I've been thinking about the watch boxes I currently have cluttering up the place and , upon reflection, I think the roll may be useful. My only requirement would be that there is a small box (or sealed pocket) included to hold spare links, screw bars etc. Just out of interest... what kind of packaging did the Barracuda and 1Km have? I only own a Sea Devil and I thought (but I don't know why!) that the packaging was part of the Benarus "branding". I suspect that part of the disappointment (if you can call it that!) for some members is that they were expecting "Sea Devil like" packaging. I can see Ralf's viewpoint with regards to trying to offer something different to those customers who may have bought several Benarus watches though. People will have different opinions/needs and, try as Ralf may, he can't please everyone all the time :). |
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robcuk 3T WIS
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VMMVMMM wrote:I can understand how you could have that perspective, I suppose, but I feel like I am looking at it another way. Ralf and Steve have said that the cost is equal, they are just trying to supply the best option for everyone. In order to know what that is, it's important to know what opinions are. I'm not looking to nit pick over "freebies," but I also don't think these are freebies at all, I think they are a part of the overall package that is a Benarus watch. Well said, I was also surprised to hear so many calling the case a freebie! So, you're gonna pop it in a Jiffy Bag?? My Oris Diver came in a huge box & case that was totally unusable, the SD case is fantastic, if it's the same price offer either, or put a premium on the case, it will sell. Rob |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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Guys these watches would sell none the less even if shipped in just a card board box. So be happy with what you get good grief. A custom watch I have did come in just a card board box and I was just as happy with it as my Gevril Sea Cloud that came with the big fancy $200 box. Guys it is the watch companies prerogative so please chill out. ;) |
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ctafield 3T WIS
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You get a poxy credit card sized calendar with Rolex watches... awesome huh. |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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Hello, Thanks everyone, your feedback is welcome and Ralf and I read and discuss what everyone says and it helps us plan for what we do in the future. This travel roll is soft, similar in feel to the outside of the Sea Devil box. We will have more 4 watch boxes available for sale for those that would like to have a Benarus box, and the cost is minimal to you and the quality is high on these storage boxes. I understand why some want the box, it is cool and very nice quality, and so is the roll, you will see. and just so everyone knows, I still have 9 yellow Sea Devils and 3 orange Sea Devils for sale, that ships in the box that we are discussing. http://benarus.com/purchase/ Greetings and Regards, Steve Laughlin |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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ctafield wrote: You get a poxy credit card sized calendar with Rolex watches... awesome huh. Have not bought a Rolex yet but when I do for the price they best give me a Limo for the day too. :cool: LOL :D |
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VMMVMMM 3T WIS
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From my perspective, and in reading this thread over again, I think the only people who are upset are those that are trying to tell people to change the way they are feel about the packaging. I don't think anyone is really fired up about the choice of packaging, they are just sharing their opinions, that's all. One of my favorite watches came to me only wrapped in bubble wrap, but I also wasn't expecting anything fancy. I would respectfully ask that everyone allow people to share their opinions and we not take it as them being angry or overly passionate about what is really a smaller issue. Like I said before, this was a thread about the packaging, so people will be discussing their opinions about it here, whether pro or con. Lets use this as a forum to share ideas and opinions, not knock people down for sharing them. I'll end by saying that I love you all and I can't wait to receive my watch, even if it ends up coming to me wrapped in wet newspaper. |
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Rhino-Ranch Guest
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I agree -- the wrap looks darn cool. I thought the idea was to buy a watch, any packing is a plus. Bead-Blasted wrote: Though I prefer a case of some sort, I realize the value in the Moray itself. If it was sent it was sent in bubble wrap housed in a cardboard box, I still think it is one he// of a bargain... |
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sooner76 Guest
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VMMVMMM wrote:I can't wait to receive my watch, even if it ends up coming to me wrapped in wet newspaper. Oh great V . . . now you've spoiled the surprise for all of the Megalodon buyers! |
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VMMVMMM 3T WIS
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sooner76 wrote: VMMVMMM wrote:LOL |
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novicecollector 3T WIS
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So how about this for a solution.? Those new Moray owners who would prefer a Sea Devil case can swap their roll with those Sea Devil owners who either have too many cases, or who would just prefer the watch roll. It would help to even out supply and demand....all for the cost of shipping to each other. And since I'm patiently waiting for my Moray to arrive, and even though I truly appreciate the innovation and thought that Steve and Ralf have put into the roll, would anyone want to swap their case for my roll? |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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sooner76 wrote: VMMVMMM wrote: ROTFLMAO!!!!  |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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our Sea Devils came with boxes though and collectors like the original carriages and paperwork on resale if any of us ever decide to sell so the only value of the box is that our watches came in them and need to stay with them in order to keep them original....good try Novice :D...if you want a box buy one ....it has been mentioned several times already that there will be some FS or better yet....buy a Sea Devil and then you will not only have a box but a awesome watch too! :D novicecollector wrote: So how about this for a solution.? |
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joecb 3T WIS 
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Not throwing any more fuel on this fire.....just versing my feelings as I am awaiting my moray... I do alot of travelling for work and vacations.....I do have a four slot travel padded watch box, and frankly it does take up alot of space in my carry-on. I like the idea of the roll, for my personal reasons, that I don't own one and it would be of benifit to me when I do travel...  |
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novicecollector 3T WIS
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Oagaspar, you yourself said: "once you start seriously collecting and have been around awhile amassing a large collection those boxes become nothing but a big nuisance" And surely you don't mean to imply you need to keep ALL your boxes in case you want to sell ALL your Benarus watches? |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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novicecollector wrote: Oagaspar, you yourself said: What's wrong with that? I keep all packaging of all watches I ever buy. Never know if you may need it for a sale or some other reason. |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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novicecollector wrote: Oagaspar, you yourself said:I have all 350+ boxes that my watch collection came in ...some very unique and collectible on their own but still a PIA to store as all of my watches are in collector cases and any WIS knows the watch is more complete and has more appeal with the original carriages they came in including all paperwork,hangtags and any other essential bits of info a WIS may have....once I get them all out of storage which are mainly in large plastic storage bins throughout my home I will post a pic and it will be a nuisance...your username suits you well my friend! :D...once I post the pic maybe Ralf will post a pic of the same amount of Roll-ups to show you the advantages hand6.gif |
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Wozza 3T WIS
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After collecting watches for over 30 years and having quite a large collection, I hope I am not still considered a novice, but I do think the case and overall package of a watch is important and influences your decision to buy. I bought my Sea Devil after I saw photos of the whole package on another forum site. In most cases the watch box is nothing special but this is why I think there has been so much discussion here is the fact that the SD case was so impressive, well designed and unique. I will be happy to get my Moray in its roll, not to travel with but as it will be something new and different but I can totally understand people preferring the SD type case. Everyone should be able to express there opinion without criticism as we all have different tastes and reason for buying things A lot of this is down to Ralf/Steve for doing such a fantastic job on the SD case in the first place. |
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Nabco 3T WIS
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novicecollector wrote: Oagaspar, you yourself said: I 100% absolutely do keep every box, every hang tag, extra links, and even the plastic circular things that fit on the crystals for all 200+ watches i own. I then take a picture of the watch, print out the picture to keep it with all this stuff. All this stuff and the pic are all stored in whatever kind of box the watch comes in....they are then put into a large plastic storage box, and put somewhere in my house. I do this for one simple reason, if I ever sell the watch I have the complete kit to go with it. And I agree with Oscar, this is a ROYAL PIMA....I now have 4 48" x 20" x 20" plasticboxes that I need to store some where |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Wozza wrote: I can honestly say I never based a watch purchase on what it came in Wozza but well said!...and there are some Sea Devils still available ,so if the SD box is something you really want buy one while they last as you did yourock.gifI would love to see your collection....we have a daily wrist check on 3T just for that purpose my friend.....we're kind of a "show me" forum! hand6.gif |
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soopah Guest
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if any of you complainers ordered a mory dial 2 that is sold out don't want it lbecause of the box let me know i will take it and the roll up hearteyes.gif |
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VMMVMMM 3T WIS
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That's actually a really good point. I never really expect to sell any of my watches, but always plan to do so just in case. Keeping everything original is a benefit when it comes time to pass it on to another. oagaspar wrote: our Sea Devils came with boxes though and collectors like the original carriages and paperwork on resale if any of us ever decide to sell so the only value of the box is that our watches came in them and need to stay with them in order to keep them original....good try Novice :D...if you want a box buy one ....it has been mentioned several times already that there will be some FS or better yet....buy a Sea Devil and then you will not only have a box but a awesome watch too! :D |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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the original carriages are as much a part of the watch as the watch itself....hand6.gif it is good to see so many posts and opinions without a flame....I will admit I like to push it a bit but that is how I remember being introduced to this Hobby....my best WIS buddies are those guys who busted my gonads the most when I 1st started....and they still do! |
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Wozza 3T WIS
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Thanks Oagaspar, I will try and sort out some pics. oagaspar wrote: Wozza wrote:I can honestly say I never based a watch purchase on what it came in Wozza but well said!...and there are some Sea Devils still available ,so if the SD box is something you really want buy one while they last as you did yourock.gifI would love to see your collection....we have a daily wrist check on 3T just for that purpose my friend.....we're kind of a "show me" forum! hand6.gif |
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Bead-Blasted 3T WIS
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Here is a quote from the very first Benarus Moray Early Pre Order thread... "The package includes watch with steel bracelet leather and rubber strap." I would much rather get a $600.00 watch for $350.00, than drop $600.00 and get for some glorified packaging. But I can dig where you are coming from. I am just excited about the Moray, and will roll with it. |
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jasontking 3T WIS
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Ralph is throwing in free extra leather strap and still complaints? Unbelievable. I would think that since these things are nearly sold out that Ralph would gladly sell them at a higher, non preorder price to someone else. Again, unbelieveable. Last edited on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 03:22 pm by jasontking |
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T3isMe 3T WIS
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jasontking wrote: Ralph is throwing in free extra leather strap and still complaints? Unbelievable. I would think that since these things are nearly sold out that Ralph would gladly sell them at a higher, non preorder price. Again, unbelieveable. I agree. While I would have preferred a box, I'll live with the watch roll. Ralf and Benarus have been nothing but a pleasure to deal with. I'm going to enjoy my Moray, with or without a box! |
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robcuk 3T WIS
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T3isMe wrote:[Ralf and Benarus have been nothing but a pleasure to deal with. Agreed Rob |
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aredman 3T WIS 
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Hey Steve, I know that someone asked but I do not think I saw the answer for what material the roll is made of.Is it leather or a man made material? Thanks |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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it is man made, same material as the Sea Devil box. |
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