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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS 
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Some of the screw drivers are a little thick and don't fit into the screw slots, please work slow and carefully with your screw drivers and if they seem to not be working, DO NOT continue, you might damage the screws. you can take it to a local jeweler if you do not have proper tools, or are not use to working with the small parts. ALSO: some of the lug bar screws are very tight and have a bit of loc-tite on them. if you are having trouble taking the lug bars out, do not force it, you might break the head of the screw off. |
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Nelson_M 3T WIS
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first off, thanks for the watch - got mine today and i'm even more impressed than i thought i'd be. 2nd, the screwdriver issue is no joke, not too much damage but i did scratch the screws a bit when i adjusted the braclet and def scratched the lug bar screw trying to put on the leather strap... thanks for the watch though - it looks great. |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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you should always put a piece of masking tape over the screws both lug and bracelet to avoid scratches and it also provides a nice tight fit for the driver so it doesn't slip hand6.gif |
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Seth 3T WIS
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Steve, Do the screws require any thread locker to stay together long term? Thx. Seth |
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Nelson_M 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: you should always put a piece of masking tape over the screws both lug and bracelet to avoid scratches and it also provides a nice tight fit for the driver so it doesn't slip hand6.gif nice - thanks for the tip :) |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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yes, what I am talking about is not slipping and scratching the watch, but the actual fit of the driver and the link screws. the drivers should fit fine in the lugs, but you should really use a wider driver for removing the lug bars, but I am also warning of the loc-tite used on the screws to keep them in place. If you are not use to sizing a bracelet, I suggest going to a local jeweler for help. Last edited on Fri Aug 14th, 2009 05:00 pm by Steve Laughlin |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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Seth wrote:Steve, if you are not going to take the bracelet off, some medium hold loc-tite is not a bad idea, but not necessary. |
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Nai_Maew 3T WIS
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I'm one of those unfortunate guys who received the dead-tight screw :? I have 2 Morays, one is OK even though a bit tight but another one is deadly locked :? Sent it to the professional hands to solve the problem, hope to get it back soon. Can't wait to wear it ;) |
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Bead-Blasted 3T WIS 
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Yikes... I have one as well. Will not budge! Tomorrow I will heat her up a tad with a blow dryer, should loosen it... |
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Bead-Blasted 3T WIS
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Blow dryer worked to loosen the screws... But my lug bars won't slide out. I will have to find some time to do surgery. I want so badly to have a STRASHION SHOW. |
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Seth 3T WIS
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A tooth pick is typically a good tool for retrieving stuck SMALL parts from a non blind hole. It won't mar and its usually rigid enough. I used to build high end cars that had lots of expensive, visible surface and tooth picks got me out of more than one jam. |
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Bead-Blasted 3T WIS
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Thanks Seth... I was trying last night. I will try them again today with it heated. Much appreciated! |
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Seth 3T WIS
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Those tiny threads, especially cut into stainless, are delicate. Anything that more rigid than about a Delrin plastic will probably knock the edge off them if you're not careful. Cleaning buggered threads of that size without a blind tap and a lathe is near impossible. Treat with kid gloves! (and toothpicks) |
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moresnowdays 3T WIS
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Can anyone say what exactly is the correct size screwdriver needed to change straps for the Moray then? Sorry if this question was answered somewhere already, didn't find it as I skimmed through. |
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Robmks 3T WIS
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A bit of a pain. I took one screw out and tried to push the tube out the other side with a springbar tool. No luck. What worked great was not to take the screw all the way out, and then give it a tap to break free the tube. Took out the screw and pushed out the tube without a problem. Good luck, Bob |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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the simple solution is that if you have no experience in this area or are not mechanically inclined then do not attempt to change your own straps or re-size your bracelets as you are only inviting headaches...take it to someone who can or practice on an older,cheaper watch is my advice...even the right tool in the wrong hands can be a problem imho hand6.gif |
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Gregger 3T WIS 
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I have a cheap screw diver set from Croton that I got from slop and they work fine....not sure of the proper size but it was almost the smallest screw drive in the box..... |
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david1201 3T WIS
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I wanted to share my experience on removing the lug bar screws. Soaking the lug bars (not the watch itself) in hot tap water for a minute helped loosen up the loctite, also helped with removing the lug bars as well. FYI, I picked this tip up on another thread at watchuseek, so I wanted to give credit where it was due. |
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stew77 Admin 
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I'll just echo David's comment (although I soaked my entire Moray in "warm" not "hot" tap water for a couple minutes). Worked like a charm. Lug screws came out just fine with the included screwdrivers (just take your time and be deliverately careful with what you are doing).woohoo.gif |
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Nai_Maew 3T WIS
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david1201 wrote: I wanted to share my experience on removing the lug bar screws. Soaking the lug bars (not the watch itself) in hot tap water for a minute helped loosen up the loctite, also helped with removing the lug bars as well. Wish I would have know this earlier ;) My Moray is deadly stuck and one of the bar just won't come out :? . I inserted a small pin into the screw hole and tried to knock it off, but no luck :? At the end, for fear that I might damage the watch, I gave up and sent to professional hand to handle the problem. Still do not get it back :( |
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Bead-Blasted 3T WIS
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A blow dryer worked perectly! A tad bit of heat and they break free with ease... |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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I believe the secret tool here is a clamp. you can't hold 2 screw drivers and a watch, that is a formula for disaster. I have changed out about 5 different morays without needing the heat, but that does probably help... and I have gotten the screws off without damaging the screws or the watch... using the drivers it came with. So I clamp the watch down, a real WIS would use a case vise, I use the trusty plastic woodworkers clamp shown in the bezel thread. then I try each screw to see if it will unscrew without using both drivers, if the bar is in there tight, then the screw will come out with using 1 driver, even with the loc-tite. then I use this pin/strap changing tool and this plastic/metal hammer to tap the lug bar out. the pin goes in the lug bar, fits inside the treads, reached the solid part of the lug bar, then tap, tap, it comes right out. works every time without damage.  |
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Nai_Maew 3T WIS
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I probably be one of the very unfortunate guy then. One of the Moray that I have is OK, but another one is real bad. Tried so hard but fail, scratched the watch some more .... :( However, didn't try with heat though ... :? |
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Omarino 3T WIS 
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I was also unlucky :( . The screws are impossible to unscrew. Just I have time I'm going to do it from a specialist |
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Omarino 3T WIS
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Update (Bad update) Today, while trying to unscrew it,the 2 screws of the bracelet has been broken  . Tomorrow I'll see if I can find spare parts. hopefully good Last edited on Tue Aug 25th, 2009 03:49 pm by Omarino |
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Nai_Maew 3T WIS
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Omarino wrote: Update (Bad update) I wish you luck. I gave up on mine and sent to the professional hands to handle. :? |
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Omarino 3T WIS
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Nai_Maew ha scritto: Omarino wrote:Update (Bad update) I have another bad news. My watchmaker hasn't a correct screw. My moray waiting a new screw... |
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