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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS 
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Ralf and I have been working on this design for a while and I want to post it now, even though this is still early and these designs are subject to change. Benarus Remora
• Hooded lugs • Gloss black dial, blue dial, C3 dial, black/orange lume dial • Ceramic bezel • New 9015 by Miyota • Presidential bracelet or mesh (bracelet design in progress)   |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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Holy Snikies!!!!....absolutely awesome!....I am a big fan of black&orange and this Remora version is Sizzzzzzzzzzling!...been waiting for you to release the news of using the new Miyota 9015...it's not easy keeping exciting news under the cuff! http://www.timetechtalk.com/forum1/20129.html |
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blbarron 3T WIS 
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Very nice, the new 9000 series Miyota's are going to be really sweet, can't wait to see more of this one!!! I'm really liking the C3 dial version, is that black/grey lume on the hands? Last edited on Tue Apr 20th, 2010 04:21 pm by blbarron |
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Janner 3T WIS 
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WoW those look great, new watch and a new movement.smile8.gif |
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BlueViper 3T WIS
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Very nice design...as always. (too small for my wrist) Can I get that orange and black dial to fit the Megalodon? ( or Moray?) |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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Looking good, so far looking to be yet another winner.  |
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Dragnattck 3T WIS
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very Nice Ralf and Steve.. I am with Oscar on this 1 and think the black and oranges absolutely rocks |
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megalodon 3T WIS 
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Very nice renderings of the Remora.The 9015 Miyota movement is going to great. Im looking towards the C3 or black/orange dial. Thanks for the update.smile8.gif |
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Nabco 3T WIS 
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Nice guys  I like the black/orange also...I'm guessing, because of the hooded lugs this may wear a little bigger than 42mm  |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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The Remora will have 30mm of glass. The Worldiver has about 33mm, the Moray is 34mm, Sea Devil 32mm, 1km 28mm. also the Remora will have 22mm lugs like the Worldiver and 1km. |
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natevan70 3T WIS 
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 Cool ! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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blbarron wrote: Very nice, the new 9000 series Miyota's are going to be really sweet, can't wait to see more of this one!!! I'm really liking the C3 dial version, is that black/grey lume on the hands? with a full lume dial the hands are generally not lumed.... |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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the hands on all of these are not final yet, but the lume dial will have solid black, whether we fill them with paint, or have them made solid, we are not sure yet. Ralf is going to be working on all the details with the factory very soon. |
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nopulse 3T WIS
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I love this new design, looks like the Moray will be getting a a relative. I'm really liking the lume dial, and the orange black combo.... Great work guys |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS 
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Steve, thanks for posting... I wasd wondering what'd be next from Benarus!! and yeap.. another winner!!:) I am in for the black/orange one and a blue or white dial! You are killing me... mwell to be more accurate my wife will be killing me when I buy two of these:)! Great job, drawings look awesome! |
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Rawhide 3T WIS
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Please say it's a domed crystal! |
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clonetrooper 3T WIS 
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wow...the black/orange looks great...any idea on the price yet?? |
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clonetrooper 3T WIS
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It would be great if you would offer a countdown bezel as an option.... |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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Steve/Ralf, I agree with Brice. This line looks line another winner for the brand. Big Congrats! |
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ivster 3T WIS 
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Lookin good Steve/Ralf! |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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That's Benarus to the stable! |
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GX9901 3T WIS 
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It looks very nice! If the Miyota 9015 movement hacks & hand-winds, I'm probably going to be down with a black/orange one. |
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nanoman 3T WIS 
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Steve, I want that dart dial, please move quickly on this new design. It looks great!!! nanoman |
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kdsarch 3T WIS 
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The Remora is looking great! At first I didnt think I liked the idea of hooded lugs, but the more I see it, the more it is growing on me. I really like the orange/ black combo. |
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Scart 3T WIS 
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the black/orange is my favorit toosmile8.gif |
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Janner 3T WIS
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Looking forward to the bracelet design on this one, I like to see a good bracelet in the initial package, the mesh on the World Diver will be a hard act to follow. |
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q_at96 3T WIS
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While i think 42mm is an awesome size, something about the design isn't doing it for me. Cheers, Q |
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ambassadeur 3T WIS
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I thinking about the white one! That one would look great on my wrist. |
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monon35 3T WIS 
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Steve - Looks great. any guess on the thickness? |
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clonetrooper 3T WIS
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what about lume bezels? ....and countdown bezels for that matter?? |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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clonetrooper wrote:what about lume bezels? ....and countdown bezels for that matter?? it will be a scratch proof ceramic bezel. with a ceramic bezel you can't have lume numbers, only a lume dot that is drilled through the tough ceramic. |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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q_at96 wrote:While i think 42mm is an awesome size, something about the design isn't doing it for me. Thanks for your feedback, more info would be helpful... are you talking about the case, the black dial, blue dial, C3 dial, or orange design? I welcome constructive criticism on this. Regards, Steve |
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kraeken 3T WIS
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Though I'm not a fan of this type of cushion case design, this is a beautiful watch! This looks super 70's to me! I'm imagining having a drink by the pool at the villa, getting a call from the phone on a tray my butler brought over, and hopping in the Lotus and driving to the dive boat. Wearing this watch. Personally (although it is my favorite dial color) I would drop the blue dial on this and go for either brushed steel or some kind of warmer color like brown, red, maroon, or orange. Though an orange dial on this may be a little to Doxa-ish. An option with polished case and hands would look great though! |
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q_at96 3T WIS
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Steve, I think there are two elements that don't sing to me, 1. the bezel insert - i am not a fan of the "small print" 2. the dot markers on the dial seem a bit cartoonish and don't match up with the numerals although i like the "toothy" dial of the pvd-orange it would be cool to see the inverse of that.. ie orange dial, with black markers... Cheers, Q |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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q_at96 wrote:Steve, ok, on a ceramic bezel, the engraving needs to be thin like this, it is hard material to cut into. The hole drilled at 12 will be filled with lume, big and bright. In my opinion too many have a dot (pip) that is too small, I designed it bigger than what I see out there on other watches. also notice it is the same size as the dots on the dial. Last edited on Fri Apr 23rd, 2010 03:59 pm by Steve Laughlin |
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aredman 3T WIS 
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Personally, I am digging the blue. That could be because I do not have a blue dial watch in the stable at this time. There is something amiss but I cannot put my hand on it at the moment. Might be the hands. more pics please. |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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aredman wrote:Personally, I am digging the blue. That could be because I do not have a blue dial watch in the stable at this time. There is something amiss but I cannot put my hand on it at the moment. Might be the hands. more pics please. we will make the blue dial, the availability may be as low as 20 |
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watchu2 3T WIS 
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could you make a stainless version with the black/orange combo? I really like the dial color combo, just not pvd. Also, what price range do you have in mind? |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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As always we are trying to keep the price as low as we can. I have learned not to post pricing on forums because people read it back to me when the price goes up, but we are shooting for pricing similar to the Sea Devil and Moray. |
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kraeken 3T WIS
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I also like the subtle sawtooth on the bezel... |
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froschd 3T WIS
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Steve, Great design, I hope it wears a little bigger like the Moray. |
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Wrath of Kwon 3T WIS 
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Ask Ralf if I can get credit for the name. I suggested it before the Moray name was chosen, and I think my suggestion was poo-pooed because it was essentially a parasite. Where are the detractors now? Hmmm? ;) This is a gorgeous watch. I'd like to parasite one off Ralf, myself. |
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T3isMe 3T WIS
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How about some more exotic colors like lime green or red. Or some color we've never seen in a watch before. I'm really enjoying my seafoam Moray. |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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T3isMe wrote:How about some more exotic colors like lime green or red. Or some color we've never seen in a watch before. I'm really enjoying my seafoam Moray. I will experiment with more colors, they will probably not make the cut for round 1, but we will have a round 2 on this one. I will post them here as well. Last edited on Mon Apr 26th, 2010 10:27 pm by Steve Laughlin |
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arlee 3T WIS
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I really hope the final design will have different hands. I like ladder hands too but it seems you guys use it for almost every model. From a design or function stand point those ladder hands don't even work that well with the dial design. So out of the 4 I choose the black/orange combo since its something new and fresh with the hour markers and the hands. |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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arlee wrote:I really hope the final design will have different hands. I like ladder hands too but it seems you guys use it for almost every model. From a design or function stand point those ladder hands don't even work that well with the dial design. Hi, yes we are looking at what we can do with different hands. they are not final yet for any of the pictures. |
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watchdaddy1 3T WIS 
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 Very nice Steve, thanks for the info. Another SICK design |
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nopulse 3T WIS
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Will this be available in finish options, I've been wanting a Benarus in a bead blasted case. Also, will the blue be a darker blue, like the sea devil, or more on the lighter side similair to the Moray ? I'm torn between the lume dial and the black orange combo at the moment. But the blasted blue combo would be very nice imo. I'll be watching this thread with anticipation.... |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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The blue is darker and different from the Sea Devil and the Moray, it is Pantone 7462. Since computer monitors are all different and the color can't be represented accurately on screen, you can look up the color in a Pantone color book. If you don't have access to a Pantone color book, you can stop by a Kinkos and ask to see one. The dial will most likely be a glossy ceramic to compliment the glossy ceramic bezel. |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS
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Awesome that blue and the black/orange version are my fave but can I chose b/w the 2 or do i buy both and put my life at risk!!???:) Mrs Jeepdad will definitely not like it ah ah:) |
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natevan70 3T WIS
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By that-do you mean that the bezel will match the dial in color? or in finish only? Steve Laughlin wrote: The dial will most likely be a glossy ceramic to compliment the glossy ceramic bezel. |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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black bezels, glossy ceramic |
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natevan70 3T WIS
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Steve Laughlin wrote: black bezels, glossy ceramic |
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T3isMe 3T WIS
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What kind of lume will the orange/black be using? Obviously not C3. The reason I ask is that my personal experience with orange lume has not been good. A long time ago I bought a Wenger orange on black and the lume on it is the worst ever. At night, it's almost as if there is no lume at all! I know that some of this has to do with how thick the layer of lume is but in general orange lume is just not that bright. |
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Rawhide 3T WIS
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Do we know the lug width yet? It screams for an Isofrane! |
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natevan70 3T WIS
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Steve Laughlin wrote: The Remora will have 30mm of glass. Last edited on Wed Apr 28th, 2010 11:39 pm by natevan70 |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS
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T3isMe wrote:What kind of lume will the orange/black be using? Obviously not C3. The reason I ask is that my personal experience with orange lume has not been good. A long time ago I bought a Wenger orange on black and the lume on it is the worst ever. At night, it's almost as if there is no lume at all! I know that some of this has to do with how thick the layer of lume is but in general orange lume is just not that bright. I'm sure Steve's got something good line up for this one. Here is a pic of one of my black dial orange markers/hands. Bad pic but you'll get the idea. Not too bad.  |
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macbrad 3T WIS 
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Got me with the lume dial drool.gif Any idea on the timing? |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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T3isMe wrote:What kind of lume will the orange/black be using? Obviously not C3. The reason I ask is that my personal experience with orange lume has not been good. A long time ago I bought a Wenger orange on black and the lume on it is the worst ever. At night, it's almost as if there is no lume at all! I know that some of this has to do with how thick the layer of lume is but in general orange lume is just not that bright. We will use the lume paint that is produced by Superluminova, and not any other brand.   |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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Here is another idea using colored lume on the dial, the bezel on these will also be ceramic with painted numbers, not lume numbers on the bezel. |
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Janner 3T WIS
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Now that blue lume realy does look Cool. |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS
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Me likey!!:) I want one!!! |
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q_at96 3T WIS
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Black and Blue is a winner... Q |
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T3isMe 3T WIS
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Steve Laughlin wrote: Here is another idea using colored lume on the dial, the bezel on these will also be ceramic with painted numbers, not lume numbers on the bezel. Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!!! Something really special about the blue on black combo. Please seriously consider making this one! Please don't make orange/black, blue/black, AND red/black. I would have to get all three and my wife would kill me! |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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T3isMe wrote: What kind of lume will the orange/black be using? Obviously not C3. The reason I ask is that my personal experience with orange lume has not been good. A long time ago I bought a Wenger orange on black and the lume on it is the worst ever. At night, it's almost as if there is no lume at all! I know that some of this has to do with how thick the layer of lume is but in general orange lume is just not that bright.Wenger is not known for good lume especially if it was bought "a long time ago"....this is orange superluminova done the right way which is the only way I have known Benarus to do it...lume the right way! Attachment: gv2 orange superluminova.jpg (Downloaded 458 times) |
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capez 3T WIS
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I like the design but 42 mm is a little small for my taste, wish it was 44, mabee 45 at least but hopefully it will play bigger |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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capez wrote:I like the design but 42 mm is a little small for my taste, wish it was 44, mabee 45 at least but hopefully it will play bigger we will have more 44, 45, and 47mm watches in the near future, but we do not have a 42mm and need one in our line up. |
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natevan70 3T WIS
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I like where this one seems to be going & can't wait to see the finished product |
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nopulse 3T WIS
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The blue black combo looks very nice !....I wonder if these black dial and black bezel variations will be mostly for PVD cases ? I'm interested in a blasted case, and curious how these will look....opinions. Personally, I like the Benarus minimal approach on the date window, and wouldn't want it any other way. I don't want attention drawn to the date window. |
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Statius 3T WIS
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I see what you're saying; but I'd still rather have some more finishing (doesn't have to be metallic like the Baliha'i), or no date. I'd like a no date version (just dreaming). |
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clonetrooper 3T WIS
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The blue lume look great...it might be interesting to have lume hands in different colors....but keep the date.... |
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SBD 3T WIS
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Both of the toothy dart versions look hot! |
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sang1911 3T WIS 
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Good job - Steve & Ralf. Love the lume dial & both dart combs. |
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nopulse 3T WIS
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I've haven't heard much talk about the bracelet on this new design. I'm hoping for the presidential style.....just thought i'd chime in, eager to see a CAD drawing with the bracelet incorporated. |
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hector325 3T WIS
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Any thoughts on a blue dial with very green lume (c7)? I think it might be something different. Very cool case design, and I am glad you guys are going after the 42mm market. |
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Wozza 3T WIS 
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42mm is a bit too small for me but looks like a really cool watch. Really like the orange/black & blue/black. |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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we are still working on the hands and will post drawings when we can get them. The bracelet drawings will be posted soon as well. we will make 4 dials for the first series, and 4 different dials for the next series. so we will also finalize the 4 for series 1 soon. |
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watchdaddy1 3T WIS
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GOOD NEWS STEVE............Any idea on the launching of it, date wise???? |
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Devin 3T WIS 
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Looks great Steve! If I had one wish I hope a no date version is an option, the dart dials a just too cool looking! The date window takes away from the clean cutting edge look. Just my opinion. |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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Devin wrote:Looks great Steve! If I had one wish I hope a no date version is an option, the dart dials a just too cool looking! The date window takes away from the clean cutting edge look. Just my opinion. ok, as with the bronze Moray, I will talk to Ralf about doing a reservation list and seeing how many people would not want the date window, and maybe we can order extra dials that do not have the date window for those that would commit to buying it in the reservation period. |
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nanoman 3T WIS
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Again the dart dial is fantastic! I wondered why it was reduced in size compared to the Moray. Also why not do the DLC for people who are willing to pay the additional cost. It looks better and it corrects the most common reason people don't choose the PVD! |
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Jeep99dad 3T WIS
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Steve Laughlin wrote: Devin wrote: |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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Here is a rendering of the first 4 dials with the new hands. We will produce these 4 dials first and we will include the Benarus Mesh bracelet with the watch. This is my rendering and not the factory, so some details may be subject to change. |
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Ventura 3T WIS
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Why not have the seconds hand reach the edge of the dial so it follows the bezel markings around? |
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Scart 3T WIS
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black/orange for me  |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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I will put the info on our website and start a reservation list for those that would like to choose the case finish and date / no date window. |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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Ventura wrote:Why not have the seconds hand reach the edge of the dial so it follows the bezel markings around? it does... well, it is as close as we will go. any closer and there could be problems with assembly. these are my renderings, there could be small changes with the real sample watches. also realize the marks on the bezel are "minute marks" for keeping time and tracking time with the bezel. a stop watch or chronograph would need "seconds" marks, but not this simple diver with vintage styling. Last edited on Wed May 19th, 2010 03:43 pm by Steve Laughlin |
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watchdaddy1 3T WIS
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I want to be on the reservation list for the blk/orange dart version dial Last edited on Wed May 19th, 2010 04:19 pm by watchdaddy1 |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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I am taking names now, the discount pricing will begin next week and will only last 2 weeks to get the discount. |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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more details on the webpage: http://www.benaruswatches.com/remora |
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Rawhide 3T WIS
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Steve - do we know yet if the crystal will be domed or flat? |
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jonataun 3T WIS
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Is the reservation list via this thread, or do we contact you through the website to get on the list? |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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a blue dart dial in SS case for me please... |
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sharkfin 3T WIS 
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Wow, love the dart dial design. Black/orange for me. But Black/blue is also good. Hmmmm. Tough to decide. Great looking so far. ;) Dave. |
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sharkfin 3T WIS
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Hey Steve, how about orange dial w/blue darts, or blue dial w/orange darts. Different colored hands could be interesting too. Thanks, Dave. |
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Damradas 3T WIS 
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Hi Steve! How high would be the watch? Best regards Dirk Last edited on Fri May 21st, 2010 10:16 am by Damradas |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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Damradas wrote:Hi Steve! here are some more specs: Bezel - 42mm dial / crystal - 30.8mm height - 14mm lug to lug - 47mm lugs - 22mm Reservations are open - http://www.benaruswatches.com/remora/ |
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arlee 3T WIS
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any chance we are going to get to see a prototype before the reservation period is over. would def. like to see real pics instead of a computer mock up before I decide. |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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arlee wrote:any chance we are going to get to see a prototype before the reservation period is over. would def. like to see real pics instead of a computer mock up before I decide. The discount price is for those that can pay a deposit in the next 2 weeks. the deposit is refundable if one chooses to cancel at any time. You don't need to pay a deposit to get on the list, but you won't get the special price offer. I will be taking reservations until the spots run out, then I will make a back up list. The sample watches will be shown before the watches are finished and shipped, but that will not be in the next 2 weeks during the discount opportunity. Every watch we have made, the comment comes up that the real thing is better than the drawings. usually from someone that skipped out on a preorder because they couldn't visualize the real thing. Last edited on Fri May 21st, 2010 06:10 pm by Steve Laughlin |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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"Every watch we have made, the comment comes up that the real thing is better than the drawings. usually from someone that skipped out on a preorder because they couldn't visualize the real thing." so true!....if I only had a buck for everytime I heard that Steve!  |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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oagaspar wrote: "Every watch we have made, the comment comes up that the real thing is better than the drawings. usually from someone that skipped out on a preorder because they couldn't visualize the real thing." True that. Very very rarely can any pic truely give a watch justice. |
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Newton13 3T WIS
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Will there be a pre-order for the 2nd round? I'm pretty bummed the lume dial didn't make the cut and hoping it shows up in the next iteration. |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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Newton13 wrote:Will there be a pre-order for the 2nd round? I'm pretty bummed the lume dial didn't make the cut and hoping it shows up in the next iteration. yes, we can do it the same way, show the designs and do a short discount opportunity. |
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natevan70 3T WIS
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Steve Laughlin wrote: yes, we can do it the same way, show the designs and do a short discount opportunity. |
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jmakaiju 3T WIS 
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Pleased to be on the waiting list for my first Benarus, a Remora. |
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watchdaddy1 3T WIS
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Any sighting of the REMORA Steve?? Or a approximation yet?? Im still a little excited |
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Frank Jaeger 3T WIS 
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i'm also curious! :D |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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The good news is I will be getting 2 complete samples of the Remora very soon to photograph. The bad news is that the factory is behind on final delivery and we are looking at late November early December. This is typical of production and that is why I just said "Fall 2010" in the beginning because I can't say when they will actually be ready, that is impossible to guarantee. |
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broadarrow 3T WIS 
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No problem for delay Steve.... I can wait this watch!  Btw im curious on new pics!!!!! dancing.gif |
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watchdaddy1 3T WIS
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Steve Laughlin wrote: The good news is I will be getting 2 complete samples of the Remora very soon to photograph. The bad news is that the factory is behind on final delivery and we are looking at late November early December. I'm good w/ that Steve, was just curious |
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Janner 3T WIS
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Looking forward to the first Remora pictures. |
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rob.winter 3T WIS 
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Me too! |
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jaybob 3T WIS 
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Pictures?!! |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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next week I will get a sample. I will photograph and use the new HD camera on it. |
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Frank Jaeger 3T WIS
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Thank you Steve, that will be greatly appreciated. |
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broadarrow 3T WIS
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Nice news Steve! Open a topic for it! |
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Steve Laughlin 3T WIS
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i will start a new thread with the photos and HD video. |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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Steve Laughlin wrote: i will start a new thread with the photos and HD video. |
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bpo 3T WIS
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Agreed - really looking forward to those photos Steve. Thanks in advance |
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hoppes-no9 3T WIS
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Steve, what's the availability of the miyota 9015 like right now? Are they shipping? Has anyone received them? |
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watchdaddy1 3T WIS
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Steve Laughlin wrote: i will start a new thread with the photos and HD video.  |
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markrichardsonno9 3T WIS
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OMG Come on where are the pics the wait is killing me  |
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chuckf1 3T WIS
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markrichardsonno9 wrote: OMG Come on where are the pics the wait is killing me The wait is killing me to. We want pics! We want pics!! |
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rob.winter 3T WIS
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chuckf1 wrote: markrichardsonno9 wrote:I have now died because the wait has killed me.OMG Come on where are the pics the wait is killing meThe wait is killing me to. We want pics! We want pics!!  Only a pic will revive my now dead body. Last edited on Wed Nov 3rd, 2010 05:36 pm by rob.winter |
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IB@WIS 3T WIS
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I am pretty new to this, but have found myself checking this forum daily for any news of my pre-orders. My PVD black with numbers will have a homecoming when it ships - I live in Hong Kong... Tempted by a Seiko Sumo every time I walk by the many watch shops here, but there is something different with the boutique brands - Steve is great and Miyota 9015 plus ceramic are very exciting. Cheers |
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Axelay2003 3T WIS 
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PICTURES?? PLEASE???drool.gif |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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don't you guys think that if Steve had pics he would post them? |
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Frank Jaeger 3T WIS
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IB@WIS wrote: I am pretty new to this, but have found myself checking this forum daily for any news of my pre-orders. My PVD black with numbers will have a homecoming when it ships - I live in Hong Kong... I've ordered a PVD with numbers also. I'm in The Netherlands. Nice to see the Remora is shipping all over the world. |
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broadarrow 3T WIS
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Frank Jaeger wrote: IB@WIS wrote:I am pretty new to this, but have found myself checking this forum daily for any news of my pre-orders. My PVD black with numbers will have a homecoming when it ships - I live in Hong Kong... Ralf and Steve now are famous all over the world !! More than Davy Crockett !! (Forrest Gump) |
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broadarrow 3T WIS
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Frank Jaeger wrote: IB@WIS wrote:I am pretty new to this, but have found myself checking this forum daily for any news of my pre-orders. My PVD black with numbers will have a homecoming when it ships - I live in Hong Kong... Ralf and Steve are now famous all over the world !! More than Davy Crockett !! (Forrest Gump) |
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